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Beware of Download Speed Testing Cheats (SingleHop in this Case)

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  • kylix said: @LowendAdmin: But does wget support SSL-compression? I can't find any evidence on that.

    Well, the person who wrote that page, their wget obviously supports SSL compression.

  • @LowEndAdmin, @Daniel: Well on a fresh Debian i have to call wget via wget --header="Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate" so it uses SSL-compression. A normal wget call does not accept SSL-compression.

  • kylix said: @LowEndAdmin, @Daniel: Well on a fresh Debian i have to call wget via wget --header="Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate" so it uses SSL-compression. A normal wget call does not accept SSL-compression.

    Well, the person who made that page is using OS X to DL it, and in recent versions OS X no longer comes with wget, and encourages people to use curl.

    However it can be installed still from source, so maybe the one from source comes with it pre-enabled, and the Debian pre-compiled one does not.

  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    That puts the whole incident into a completely different light. I mean he could also simply put up an alias of wget="wget --header='Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate'". We can't proof. (referring to being cynical)

    Maybe he should revise his text and declare how his custom wget is setup.

  • So to put it straight: wget in its original state does not use compression-over-SSL. You have to manually enable it via --header="Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate". So everybody normally running wget will not "benefit" from the SSL-compression. The download will be the same as over normal HTTP.

    However, he is using OS X. OS X does not come with wgetshipped but with curl. He must therefore got his wgetsomewhere else, maybe compiled it from sources. He, however, did not state if he compiled it with compression enabled by default. He does not write about his custom set-up at all. He takes his custom set-up to be valid for everybody.

    Additionally, we do not know, if he has set-up an alias to wget="wget --header='Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate'".

    And then he screamsn "xxx are cheats". Well, sapere aude my friend.

  • @kylix - you sure? Accept-Encoding deals with HTTP level deflate which is NOT what is talking about here.

  • I wonder who else is doing this? Makes me want to run down a list.

  • drmike said: I wonder who else is doing this? Makes me want to run down a list.

    At least a lot uses a 0's file. So, maybe you are getting some gzip compression too.

  • He used the "https" link anyway. http://i.imgur.com/LcQ1t.png

  • The ssl is forced and was one of the points he raised. They hosted the test file on their support ticket site which requires the ssl.

  • Forces ssl or not, you have to manually say wget to use gzip or deflate. This guys detected "cheat" is so low...

  • Argh. No. You tell wget to use gzip or deflate on the HTTP 1.1 level. However the compression detected here is the TLSv1 deflate support which is one layer below HTTP (or something like that, for those who know the OSI model), and it comes in stock standard OpenSSL 0.9.8+.

  • Speaking of Singlehop, I submitted a spam/abuse report to them 4 days ago.

    They just got back to me with a response.

    Maybe I should blog about it. :)

  • drmike said: They just got back to me with a response.

    You sure they didn't cheat when they wrote that response?

  • Considering the answer boiled down to "We think they were taken care of and the matter is resolved. Please check for us and let us know if it was taken care of."...

  • Santrex is doing the same thing.

  • @dmmcintyre3 said: Santrex is doing the same thing.

    Where?

    --2012-05-31 07:23:33--  http://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net/100mb.bin
    Resolving vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net... 83.170.96.22
    Connecting to vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net|83.170.96.22|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
    Location: https://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net:5656/100mb.bin [following]
    --2012-05-31 07:23:33--  https://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net:5656/100mb.bin
    Connecting to vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net|83.170.96.22|:5656... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `100mb.bin.1'
    
     2% [===>                                                                                                                                                           ] 3,072,000   48.0K/s  eta 11m 23s ^
    
  • -rw-r----- 1 jrunyon jrunyon 10502144 May 31 01:28 100mb.bin
    -rw-r----- 1 jrunyon jrunyon 10233 May 31 01:28 100mb.bin.gz

    That's an unnatural amount of compression - because guess what I see when I open the file? ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ (aka nulls)

  • @Daniel:

    [root@tiger ~]# wget -O /dev/null http://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net/100mb.bin 
    --2012-05-31 09:41:34--  http://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net/100mb.bin
    Resolving vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net... 83.170.96.22
    Connecting to vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net|83.170.96.22|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
    Location: https://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net:5656/100mb.bin [following]
    --2012-05-31 09:41:35--  https://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net:5656/100mb.bin
    Connecting to vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net|83.170.96.22|:5656... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: “/dev/null”
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 63.9M/s   in 1.6s    
    
    2012-05-31 09:41:37 (63.9 MB/s) - “/dev/null” saved [104857600/104857600]
    
    [root@tiger ~]# curl -o /dev/null https://vpsadmin-uk.santrex.net:5656/100mb.bin  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                     Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
    100  100M  100  100M    0     0  1162k      0  0:01:28  0:01:28 --:--:-- 1174k
  • NateN34NateN34 Member

    Yes, they are. I downloaded 100 mb in 1 second on a 11 Mbit connection/

    Try this one: http://vpsadmin-us.santrex.net/100mb.bin

  • CoreyCorey Member

    Well we have been a previous customer of singlehop and the service and support was great, can't believe they would stoop this low... but once again it may not have been on purpose.

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