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Upcoming Critical PHP Security Release

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  • corbpiecorbpie Member

    tag a provider who will need to update but you know they wont

    @PulsedMedia

  • tuxtux Veteran

    I think that their Väinämöinen AI do this update @PulsedMedia

  • LeviLevi Veteran
    edited 8:44AM

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @Levi said:

    Stay calm, you are not that relevant to attract any attention.

    i think we have forgotten the age of the clanker. Nobody spends any time on anything anymore when its automated. Given that they show wordpress in that one video, its gonna be glorious

    Even klankers takes time and money. Attack surface is to big for small fish to care. Main attention will be on big corps.

  • @Levi said:

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @Levi said:

    Stay calm, you are not that relevant to attract any attention.

    i think we have forgotten the age of the clanker. Nobody spends any time on anything anymore when its automated. Given that they show wordpress in that one video, its gonna be glorious

    Even klankers takes time and money. Attack surface is to big for small fish to care. Main attention will be on big corps.

    sure, but shell access on bullshit server is worth a pretty penny as well. Botnets, proxies etc. Given how bad it is, there might be even some decent home run options available

    Thanked by 1zejjnt
  • jcn50jcn50 Member
    edited 10:31AM

    @tux said: I think that their Väinämöinen AI do this update @PulsedMedia

    They aren't allowed to use their AI to post on the forum automatically (unfortunately) + I guess they were too transparent in the first place...

  • niceboyniceboy Veteran

    Virtfusion interim fix recommends to turn off the following :

    session.use_strict_mode = 1
    session.upload_progress.enabled = Off
    

    https://docs.virtfusion.com/security/php-october-2026/

  • Hi all, Jo from Hosted Power here.

    Like many of you, we have a mix of PHP versions on our servers, and some of them won't get a patch today. We wrote a small extension for those and open-sourced it, in case it helps anyone else here.

    It switches off the session upload-progress handler (where the researchers who reproduced the bugs placed them) at PHP startup. Uploads keep working, sites can't re-enable it via .user.ini/.htaccess (unlike session.upload_progress.enabled = Off), and you can check it per version with php --ri hp_uploadprogress_guard. The repo has install steps for cPanel EA4 (including a hook for new ea-php versions), DirectAdmin CustomBuild and Debian/Sury.

    https://github.com/HOSTED-POWER/php_uploadprogress_guard

    To be clear about @aphex's point: on a box where nothing overrides the ini setting, our extension cuts the same code path, it just can't be undone per site. So if the core devs are right that upload-progress mitigations aren't sufficient, that applies to ours too. It's not a replacement for the official packages; install those as soon as they land. It's a few hours old, and we'll check it against PHP's details at 16:00 CEST and update this thread either way.

    Thanked by 2zejjnt Ramsterdam
  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Patron Provider

    @jcn50 said:

    @tux said: I think that their Väinämöinen AI do this update @PulsedMedia

    They aren't allowed to use their AI to post on the forum automatically (unfortunately) + I guess they were too transparent in the first place...

    Yes too transparent, if we did like everyone else; 100% AI Slop from GPT-3 blatant AF and spam as much as possible; That is fine, and approved separately.

    But saying it's AI and it's actually good AI Agent ... That's a no go. Makes you wonder why ... ;)

    Thanked by 1jcn50
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    PHP-based billing panels:

    • WHMCS
    • Blesta
    • HostBill
    • BillingServ
    • ClientExec
    • FOSSBilling

    What hackers can do:

    • leak customer data — GDPR lawsuits
    • charge stored cards (although money goes to you) — chargebacks
    • call hypervisor API (see below)

    PHP-based hypervisor panels:

    • SolusVM 1.x
    • Virtualizor
    • VirtFusion
    • Tenantos
    • Convoy

    What hackers can do:

    • delete VPS — angry tickets from and refunds for managed clients, drama threads from unmanaged clients
    • create VPS — mine monero, send spam — your IP listed on Spamhaus
    • do naughty inside the VPS (see below)

    PHP-based shared hosting panels:

    • Plesk
    • ISPConfig
    • Froxlor

    What hackers can do:

    • delete files, deface website, wipe databases — angry tickets from and refunds for managed clients, drama threads from unmanaged clients

    These panels are not PHP based:

    • Billing: BILLmanager (C++)
    • Hypervisor: Proxmox VE (Perl), SolusIO (Go), OpenStack (Python)
    • Shared hosting: cPanel (Perl), DirectAdmin (C++), aaPanel (Python)

    You can escape PHP vulnerabilities, but they can have their own vulnerabilities.

    Research performed by Muse.ai, "what hackers can do" written by the flesh.

    Thanked by 2rpqu zejjnt
  • kaitkait Member

    Thank you YoursunnyGPT

  • CalypsoCalypso Member

    Worst case scenario: current exploit isn't really usable because everyone used possible mitigation settings and the to-be-released new version contains backdoor where hackersgroups have their exploits ready for...

  • How do I know my providers have any mitigations setup or not, airnode took their customer panel offline (notified) and greencloud is still up. How are people handling this? I have not seen a true POC on the internet yet because you need the address leak to know where to put the payload afaik.

    CERT-EU and the UK NCSC are taking it seriously enough to say that internet-facing PHP systems that cannot be remediated should be considered for isolation/offline status until they can be patched.

  • daviddavid Veteran

    Are there any tell-tale signs in weblogs that something is trying this sort of attack, that we can check for?

  • NekoparaNekopara Member

    cloudflare applied waf rules against this already. i moved nextcloud behind waf for now :#

  • rdesrdes Member

    70% on internet runs on PHP, I’m pretty sure that cert-eu itself also (now it's showing gateway error btw). PHP team handles this incident as poorly as possible, but looking at the PHP past, it's nothing new.

    Thanked by 1zejjnt
  • tuxtux Veteran

    There are Coolify update later today due PHP bugs: https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify/issues/12255

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited 12:23PM

    All a conspiracy by Big P to get everyone to upgrade to 8.x!

    Francisco

  • @neighhouse said: How do I know my providers have any mitigations setup or not

    Thing is you cannot know it, it is a matter of trust, sadly. Time to reduce the amount of idlers and get dedi.

    Thanked by 2zejjnt neighhouse
  • rskrsk Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited 12:01PM

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @neighhouse said: How do I know my providers have any mitigations setup or not

    Thing is you cannot know it, it is a matter of trust, sadly. Time to reduce the amount of idlers and get dedi.

    Not really, if they implemented the current mitigations, you can easily check in phpinfo, and even simulate a multipart HTTP POST request test.

  • @rsk said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @neighhouse said: How do I know my providers have any mitigations setup or not

    Thing is you cannot know it, it is a matter of trust, sadly. Time to reduce the amount of idlers and get dedi.

    Not really, if they implemented the current mitigations, you can easily check in phpinfo, and even simulate a multipart HTTP POST request test.

    In case of hosted PHP - yes but what about hosted [hypervisor,billing] panels? Can you check they were patched?

  • rdesrdes Member

    Large number of websites in the Netherlands taken offline as a precautionary measure including RTL, Tweakers, and government sites.

  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    FYI - Cloudflare released rules for mitigating this attack.

    Also looks like that setting might not be enough, blocking multipart uploads via your WAF might be the temporary solution.

  • COLBYLICIOUSCOLBYLICIOUS Member
    edited 12:53PM

    @MrRadic said:
    FYI - Cloudflare released rules for mitigating this attack.

    Also looks like that setting might not be enough, blocking multipart uploads via your WAF might be the temporary solution.

    Bunny (aff/non-aff) did this too.

    https://bunny.net/blog/cve-2026-109618-and-cve-2026-109619/

  • varwwwvarwww Veteran
    edited 12:54PM

    yea, I took my sites offline too till the updates arrive. better safe than sorry

    return 503; on nginx wherever php runs

    sudo systemctl stop php8.5-fpm.service
    sudo systemctl disable php8.5-fpm.service
    

    https://4chan.org/ is also taken offline

    Thanked by 1BasToTheMax
  • Hoping that cloudlinux can backport this to 7.3 and shared hosts are quick to update

  • rdesrdes Member

    Netcup is shutting down everything (translated from german):
    https://forum.netcup.de/thread/23215-php5-6-7-8-cve-2026-109618-109619-remote-code-execution-rce-update-3/?postID=276215#post276215

    In the next few minutes, we will be taking the forum, Customer Control Panel (CCP), Plesk, the CloudDNS API, and webmail offline as a precautionary measure until we have a patch ready. The CCP will remain online.
    Furthermore, once the patch is released, we will take all web hosting packages (including managed servers) offline until the patching process is complete. Access to Plesk will be disabled immediately. We anticipate approximately 3–5 hours of downtime for the web hosting services.

    Thanked by 1mrTom
  • SplitIceSplitIce Member, Host Rep
    edited 1:23PM

    It seems like the sensible aproach to go into maintenance mode before the release until you update.

    AI agents will be on this for the big targets in minutes.

    The real question is... Is github ready for the all the containers getting rebuilt via github actions?

    @MrRadic said: Also looks like that setting might not be enough, blocking multipart uploads via your WAF might be the temporary solution.

    The cryptic responses from those in the know is that there is no solution other than updating PHP...

    Its not clear to me if thats because ini_set can re-enable the feature, or because there is another more serious vulnerability. Something that cant be disabled (e.g cookie parsing) for example would be a "you can only patch it" issue.

    Thanked by 1zejjnt
  • vinhaisvinhais Member

    Critical CVEs for both Node and PHP on the same day.

    The internet is going to break today.

  • Access2ITAccess2IT Member, Host Rep, LIR
  • angstromangstrom Moderator, Veteran

    Which covers the four series 8.2.x, 8.3.x, 8.4.x, and 8.5.x

    I imagine that third-party vendors will try to patch earlier series ASAP

    Thanked by 2COLBYLICIOUS tux
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