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how slow are hdd for server

Hey, I’m looking at a dedicated server from OneProvider with the Intel Xeon E3-1270 v6, 32 GB of RAM, and 2x 2 TB SATA HDDs. I’m pretty interested in getting it, and honestly the only thing holding me back right now is the HDD storage. How slow are those drives in actual use? I’d mainly be running Linux, hosting websites with Nginx, and probably some VMs and other services. I saw there’s a 2x 450 GB NVMe SSD option, but unfortunately it’s sold out. I don’t necessarily need crazy-fast storage, I just don’t want the HDDs to be terribly slow or make the whole server feel sluggish. What kind of performance should I expect from them?

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  • itzsenuitzsenu Member
    edited 8:55PM

    @EpicEscapist said: What kind of performance should I expect from them?

    2x hdd raid 1 around 150-220mb/s sequential, 80-150 random 4k iops. budget ssd does 20k-90k+ iops, nvme 100k-500k+.

    in ur use case, its damn slow. iops matter for vms and databases.

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  • OhJohnOhJohn Member

    @EpicEscapist said: at a dedicated server from OneProvider with the Intel Xeon E3-1270 v6, 32 GB of RAM, and 2x 2 TB SATA HDDs

    Those are just resold from OVH - better go for the original, even with their stupid setup fees. And go for a NVMe one - they will pop up once but probably only for seconds or minutes before being oos again.

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  • mrerenkmrerenk Member
    edited 8:36PM

    Very slow. You can even feel how slow it is while doing apt upgrades/installations

    Either wait for the nvme stocks on that server or regularly check out https://heymman.com. You can get the E3-1240 v3, 32gb ram, 1.92TB Samsung PM863A SSD server for $22.

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  • forestforest Member

    HDDs are pretty slow compared to NVMe or even SATA SSD.

    But you can use dm-cache to improve performance if you have both an HDD and an SSD. It will dynamically cache the most frequently-accessed blocks on the faster storage. It can improve performance dramatically.

  • God. that's a really hard to answer for you. You really need to test it out for yourself, there's no way around it.

    I'm personally perfectly content, maybe because I come from the 90s with them, with raid 1 HDDs on a dedi as Linux just runs and I really don't have anything that requires quick access (I've that hosted somewhere else on ssds)

    If we would talk windows, ssds all the way. Holy crap just no.

  • forestforest Member

    @Mainfrezzer said: If we would talk windows, ssds all the way. Holy crap just no.

    FTFY

  • I mean, good to know they resell other providers servers. Looking for someone who owns their own stuff that's in Canada/the US and that's dedicated and that's around $30.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @EpicEscapist said:
    I mean, good to know they resell other providers servers. Looking for someone who owns their own stuff that's in Canada/the US and that's dedicated and that's around $30.

    @SolidVPS ?

  • I don't see any dedicated from them, unless I'm just not looking far enough

  • MikeAMikeA Patron Provider, Veteran

    If it's for your own stuff and light IO use it's fine but if you've ever used NVMe storage then you'll feel like you're going back to the stone ages using HDD storage. Just do an apt/dnf update in Linux on NVMe vs HDD :smiley:

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  • mrerenkmrerenk Member
    edited 10:10PM

    @MikeA said:
    If it's for your own stuff and light IO use it's fine but if you've ever used NVMe storage then you'll feel like you're going back to the stone ages using HDD storage. Just do an apt/dnf update in Linux on NVMe vs HDD :smiley:

    And try to use dokploy on the hdd. The provider selection (where you select the source of the application. Like github, gitlab yada yada) loads in 5 seconds. Not even kidding.

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