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Spamhaus Delisting

aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

So a few months ago Spamhaus listed some subnets of mine and ive never had received an abuse report by them at that time. I only then realized that i had to actually check for IPs that het listed via their lists without any reports. So i quickly asked for all the IPs which i received and suspended. After my response they said issue was not resolved and that I was lying. I tried my best to cooperate and received no further IPs by them. They just said that I was lying and no further IPs were given. So I stopped trying for some time. I started blocking Mail Ports by default because I had no way anymore to check if the IPs got listed newly again since well they werenall listed and I couldnt check if they were listed newly. At some point even AFTER i had enabled the blocking of all mail ports by default they then listed my whole ASN is ASNDrop. I tried to contact regarding this and got no response anymore. After a few months I now requested it again and received no response after a few days. They were quite fast with responses before.

Now my question is: Has anyone experienced this before? And what can I even do now?

I am at a loss, im trying to cooperate and get nothing in return anymore.

Comments

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @Mynymbox might have experienced similar

  • malignifymalignify Member

    @aluy said: whole ASN is ASNDrop

    @balramm and @DigiRDP been there before

  • LeviLevi Member

    Spamhaus is very effective and good at spam prevention. If they saw that you don’t care - than it is what it is. Try to scan your subnets at uceprotect. They are not so naive or communicative as spamhaus is.

    Good luck.

  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    @Levi said:
    Spamhaus is very effective and good at spam prevention. If they saw that you don’t care - than it is what it is. Try to scan your subnets at uceprotect. They are not so naive or communicative as spamhaus is.

    Good luck.

    The problem is the uceprotect has not reported the IPs that Spamhaus did. It was ONLY spamhaus and the one ip currently listed on uceprotect is a tor exit node which also has mail ports disabled. i am just confused

  • 3K333K33 Member, Host Rep

    Change ASN, probably it's the easiest

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    @3K33 said:
    Change ASN, probably it's the easiest

    that would be even worse look to spamhaus and does not resolve the subnet delisting. i will also not change subnets as id rather resolve the issue instead of going around them.

    Thanked by 2nghialele skimply153
  • 3K333K33 Member, Host Rep

    @aluy said:

    @3K33 said:
    Change ASN, probably it's the easiest

    that would be even worse look to spamhaus and does not resolve the subnet delisting. i will also not change subnets as id rather resolve the issue instead of going around them.

    Good luck then, I heard it’s easier to win with tax office than with Spamhaus. Once they don’t like you, it’s over.

    Thanked by 1zed
  • zedzed Member

    once they've decided you're not serious i'm not sure there is anything you can do except try again someday.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @3K33 said:

    @aluy said:

    @3K33 said:
    Change ASN, probably it's the easiest

    that would be even worse look to spamhaus and does not resolve the subnet delisting. i will also not change subnets as id rather resolve the issue instead of going around them.

    Good luck then, I heard it’s easier to win with tax office than with Spamhaus. Once they don’t like you, it’s over.

    Tbf, Spamhaus has no power other than causing you some troubles with mailing or slight reputational damage.

  • aluyaluy Member, Patron Provider

    @tentor said:

    @3K33 said:

    @aluy said:

    @3K33 said:
    Change ASN, probably it's the easiest

    that would be even worse look to spamhaus and does not resolve the subnet delisting. i will also not change subnets as id rather resolve the issue instead of going around them.

    Good luck then, I heard it’s easier to win with tax office than with Spamhaus. Once they don’t like you, it’s over.

    Tbf, Spamhaus has no power other than causing you some troubles with mailing or slight reputational damage.

    which is horrendous for any actual legitimate mail service that would want to host with us. many services use spamhaus and emails dont even go to spam. the asndrop is even worse

    i checked and luckily two subnets of us arent listed and have tried one subnet listing instead of the whole asn to get delisted now. i really hope theyll overthink it again

  • @tentor said: Tbf, Spamhaus has no power other than causing you some troubles with mailing or slight reputational damage.

    And convincing your upstreams to drop you. And adding your ASN to some stupid list
    called DROP (Don't route or peer) that many IXPs use.
    Slight troubles with mailing? I wish, who tf cares about mailing, but they are like cancer,
    they start slow and try to kill you in the end. Won't publicly tell my exact case.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @luckypenguin said:

    @tentor said: Tbf, Spamhaus has no power other than causing you some troubles with mailing or slight reputational damage.

    And convincing your upstreams to drop you. And adding your ASN to some stupid list
    called DROP (Don't route or peer) that many IXPs use.

    Mind name ones who are known to care?

    Slight troubles with mailing? I wish, who tf cares about mailing, but they are like cancer, they start slow and try to kill you in the end. Won't publicly tell my exact case.

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