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Hello from an open-source browser developer

Hi everyone,

I'm WhiteDragon-303, an independent open-source developer working on the Daybreak Browser Project — a suite of free web browsing tools.

What I'm building:
• Daybreak Electron Browser — a desktop browser using Electron + BrowserView (native Chromium rendering, no iframe limitations)
• Silver Dragon Proxy — a web proxy on Cloudflare Workers (still in development, currently unstable — actively debugging issues)
• White Dragon Proxy — a lightweight companion proxy that's working well for fast content delivery
• Daybreak Cloudflare Browser — a full web-based browser with proxy integration

Everything is on GitHub: https://github.com/WhiteDragon-303

Live deployments:
• Silver Dragon Proxy: https://silver-dragon-proxy.white-dragon.workers.dev/
• White Dragon Proxy: https://white-dragon-proxy.pages.dev
• Daybreak Cloudflare Browser: https://daybreak-browser.pages.dev

I've been working with Cloudflare Workers so far, but I'm here to learn about VPS hosting. My proxies have IP reputation issues on Cloudflare (Google blocks their IP ranges), so I need to understand how to properly set up and manage a Linux VPS to move my projects forward.

I've never managed a real VPS before, so I'll have questions about security hardening, reverse proxies, and handling NAT with IPv6. Looking forward to learning from the community.

Thanks for having me.

Comments

  • edited May 14

    @WhiteDragon303 said:
    native Chromium rendering

    Pheeew, for a second i thought you might actually be crazy enough to attempt some kind of ground up browser project in 2026. Electron is a bit poopoo as far as i'm concerned though (sorry lol).

    I've never managed a real VPS before, so I'll have questions about security hardening, reverse proxies, and handling NAT with IPv6. Looking forward to learning from the community.

    Well, hello! Take your seat then. I hope you brought your popcorn bucket! It's a little chaotic at times but i think overall you've come to the right place ;)

  • inoricatinoricat Member

    Another chromium based browser... Wish you luck

    Proxies look interesting but a blank page with "put URL and go" is a no-go for me. What's the idea behind this system? How does it work, why would we use it? Some documentation to tame curious eyes is always welcome

    Good luck on your endeavours

  • Welcome. Would be curious to try it. Especially white proxy

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    Hi.

    Welcome to LET.

    Just to let you know, we don't enjoy heavy use of AI for posts.

    Good luck with your project! :)

  • edited May 14

    @FatGrizzly said:
    we don't enjoy heavy use of AI for posts.

    That is correct. Some users still haven't fined tuned their mental filter but i wouldn't count on it staying this way for long. Well, at least i hope so. I'm starting to feel kind of dumb for regularly noticing the obvious...

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @FatGrizzly said:
    we don't enjoy heavy use of AI for posts.

    That is correct. Some users still haven't fined tuned their mental filter but i wouldn't count on it staying this way for long. Well, at least i hope so. I'm starting to feel kind of dumb for regularly noticing the obvious...

    Don’t worry you’re not dumb

    Old, however…

  • @emgh said:
    Old, however…

    Yeah, that's sadly true. The 3x part isn't much of big deal. It's pretty much like the 2x part with most changes being optional but the 4x part is where time starts taking it's toll. It's pretty crazy when i think about it.

    Still hardly an excuse for constantly missing those stupid fucking long dashes... Well, maybe i'm starting to become senile. That could be an option.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • sillycatsillycat Member

    @WhiteDragon303 said: • Daybreak Cloudflare Browser: https://daybreak-browser.pages.dev

    This one literally just makes an iframe with the site you want to go to? Wtf...

    Thanked by 2Nadwey oloke
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @totally_not_banned said: Still hardly an excuse for constantly missing those stupid fucking long dashes... Well, maybe i'm starting to become senile. That could be an option.

    :D

  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @totally_not_banned said: Still hardly an excuse for constantly missing those stupid fucking long dashes...

    Have you considered switching to long dashes yourself to blend in better? Nobody will know whether you're another Väinämöinen or just an old guy trolling.

    Thanked by 3sillycat emgh inoricat
  • ehabehab Member

    only after @emgh does inspection i can proceed.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • edited May 14

    @oloke said:

    @totally_not_banned said: Still hardly an excuse for constantly missing those stupid fucking long dashes...

    Have you considered switching to long dashes yourself to blend in better? Nobody will know whether you're another Väinämöinen or just an old guy trolling.

    Nah, as much as i hate getting old i don't really feel a need to blend in. That's kind of an advantage you get with never really having blended in. The reasons might expand a little but overall its still pretty much the same ;)

    Thanked by 2emgh oloke
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    totally_not_blending_in

  • TrikeLikeTrikeLike Member

    @WhiteDragon303 said:
    What I'm building:
    • Daybreak Electron Browser — a desktop browser using Electron + BrowserView (native Chromium rendering, no iframe limitations)

    You are not making a browser, at least not yet. You've made browser chrome, which is the technical term for a nice visual wrapper over someone else's engine (that's why it was originally called Chrome back in the day, you know). I personally consider something a new browser when it starts doing unique things with/to the engine not present in the stock version (Pale Moon became an independent browser when they forked pre-Rust Firefox, WebKit became a separate browser after Apple forked KHTML, etc).

    I've never managed a real VPS before, so I'll have questions about security hardening,

    90% of the work is removing your SSH port (connect via a WireGuard tunnel instead, it's easy and makes port scanning for the SSH port pointless), using pubkey SSH auth, disabling kernel module autoloading & blacklisting modules you don't use, updating frequently, and not running your web server/webapps with dangerous permissions (use systemd service files or bubblewrap to restrict them to minimal perms). The remaining 10% is exponentially harder but a lot more work.

    ...and handling NAT with IPv6.

    Don't NAT IPv6. If your plan requires NAT for IPv6, your plan is wrong.

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited May 14

    @WhiteDragon303 — what to achieve something great? Please create:

    1. first we'll need a browser extension that automatically fills content with AI output based on the simplest input. People nowadays don't like to type, sometimes they just want to type emojis to express themselves. For example when typing an emoji, AI should generate a reply based on that emoji and the thread displayed; or by typing 2 words, AI should generate a reply with proper format and everything taking the two words as very important for generating automatically a reply with regards to content displayed on the screen by the browser.
    2. then we'll need a browser extension that automatically summarises a thread or content with the help of AI, so the user does not need to read walls of text. The summary must be as short as possible and even use emojis, so that visitor may feel like reading as least as possible. Afterwards they might reply with an emoji or 2–3 words (good for the first extension requested).

    These two are like issue and solution, completing one another in Yin/Yang, making these a must have for the future. Think about all the people on social media who just reply with emojis and GIFs. Both such extensions in tandem should make everybody look smart and wise in their replies — a necessary aspect in feeling important while socialising with others online.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    It fails to rewrite CSS paths, causing the webpage to render without styling.

    yoursunny.com through Silver Dragon

    • White Dragon Proxy: https://white-dragon-proxy.pages.dev

    Same result as Silver Dragon.

    • Daybreak Cloudflare Browser: https://daybreak-browser.pages.dev

    It fails to connect to our website, despite we have the lowest Cloudflare protection and do not block any scrapers.

    yoursunny.com through Daybreak

    @WhiteDragon303 said:
    • Daybreak Electron Browser — a desktop browser using Electron + BrowserView (native Chromium rendering, no iframe limitations)

    This isn't a browser, but a shell of an existing browser.
    The rendering engine is what makes a browser a browser.

    @inoricat said:
    a blank page with "put URL and go" is a no-go for me

    Mentally strong people set homepage to about:blank and manually type the URI.

  • @TrikeLike said:
    Don't NAT IPv6. If your plan requires NAT for IPv6, your plan is wrong.

    Well, i like NATing IPv6. As far as i'm concerned that's how it is supposed to be. God bless the good souls that decided not including NAT6 would be a mistake ;)

  • TrikeLikeTrikeLike Member

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @TrikeLike said:
    Don't NAT IPv6. If your plan requires NAT for IPv6, your plan is wrong.

    Well, i like NATing IPv6. As far as i'm concerned that's how it is supposed to be. God bless the good souls that decided not including NAT6 would be a mistake ;)

    Two consenting sysadmins are free to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own LAN but I don't want to see that kind of perversion on the public internet, it could be a bad influence on the impressionable youth. New sysadmins these days take one misinformed look at IPv4 NAT and wrongly conclude stuff like "ooh, NAT is a network security primitive" and "who even uses port forwarding/non-web P2P anyways, I don't care that NAT often breaks it"!

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran
    • Silver Dragon
    • White Dragon

    My Monster Manual has Black, Blue, Green, Red, White, Brass, Bronze, Copper, Gold, and Silver dragons.

    Silver Dragons are Lawful Good but white dragons are Chaotic Evil.

    This concerns me.

    Thanked by 1totally_not_banned
  • edited May 15

    @TrikeLike said:
    New sysadmins these days take one misinformed look at IPv4 NAT and wrongly conclude stuff like "ooh, NAT is a network security primitive"

    Yeah, that's obviously a very naive perspective. Everyone knows that it's security & privacy in one 100% foolproof package. ;)

    Thanked by 1TrikeLike
  • inoricatinoricat Member

    @yoursunny said:

    @inoricat said:
    a blank page with "put URL and go" is a no-go for me

    Mentally strong people set homepage to about:blank and manually type the URI.

    Totally true, I just use the local about:blank that appears after Ctrl+T, not the "here use this free AI proxy" page.
    Although I'm guilty of also using bookmarks, brain not big enough for all URLs.

    While you are here @yoursunny, what do you think of the NAT IPv6 of the last comments?

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
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