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Singapore Deployment
gatewaysentryllc
Member, Patron Provider
in Requests
Hello Hosting providers of LowEndTalk,
We're looking to get quotes for a possible deployment in the APAC region.
EPYC 7742 (And or Equivalent(No Dual CPUs))
128GB Ram
1x 2TB NVME (PCIE Gen 4)
2x 100GbE (MT27800 MLX5 Based Interface)
95% Based usage billing.
Must haves:
BGP Session Support (Client management side BIRD)
MT27800 Interface
Location: Singapore
ECMP based load balancing (NOT FAILOVER)
Use case:
DDoS/DoS Scrubbing & CDN
Thank you for your time.
Comments
GLWR
https://fdcservers.net/
This is not the right place to be asking for this (and you should know it).
We just joined this platform not to long ago less than a month,
Where is the right place to ask? I thought to get recommendations we would post in "Requests" no?
Thank you, Will check this out.
OP would $7/y and debian thx work for you?
Given the size of his "business", I'm sure it will.
DDoS = perma ban
You are aware that, especially in APAC, providers will expect a 10%, sometimes 20% minimum. So you'll be forced to a minimum of like 20Gbit 95th CDR commit. That'll be 5 figures easily.
Yes I am, Sadly this is the only route for me to serve my users located in Vietnam and Philipines.
I spoke with FDCServers and they quoted me $1.6K for 25Gbps Unmetered which is a solid deal.
Id be very interested to see if that port could be filled 24/7 without any consequences, and if you could actually hit it.
That's pretty amazing pricing for Singapore, did they share what network mix they have in Singapore?
One thing that is holding me back is that there is alot of reports telling me that FDC DOES NOT truly have 25Gbps unmetered when you pay for it, its heavily shared and you'd be lucky to get half of that.
But yet again that is still a good deal, $1.6K for 10Gbps Unmetered is still pretty good.
Assuming they still let you blast that 10Gbps unmetered, will cost them way more than that.
Sadly they didn't share the Mix, But I am guessing most likely cogent and or HE as they are the cheapest.
I doubt it would be GTT and or NTT.
Yea, that's why I am still skeptical.
This is the message that I got from them.
"We can provide the following server in Singapore
2 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6248 CPU @ 2.50GHz
128 GB RAM
2 x 960GB NVMe
UNMETERED: 25 Gbps
$1,646/month"
Dual CPU's wont work since its not friendly with XDP
Single Interface hooked on the PCIe lane going to NUMA0 while NUMA1 has to also process data so it all ends up fetching and overwhelming NUMA0.
I mean if it works I'll take one and happily blast 15G 24/7 for $1600 a month in APAC.
Its kinda crazy, If you check there VPS pricing.
They are charging $700 for 50Gbps Unmetered in Singapore?
There's no way this is true...
FDC is always heavily oversold, yet still decent for cheap, low quality bandwidth. They have been around for a very long time, years ago they were single homed to Cogent everywhere but that's no longer the case.
How oversubscribed the line is, will vary per location, but pricing is unbeatable... as long as pricing is everything that matters.
according to their looking glass ip its single homed tata
What do you estimate I would get out of a "50Gbps Unmetered" VDS in Singapore?
If your goal is DDoS mitigation, nothing.
There was actually a LET DDoS mitigation provider which somehow was using them like a decade ago. It was @SplitIce / X4B, which is still around to this day, although not very active in the forum.
More than what you pay for, but WAY less than what they advertise. I would not suggest them for anything other than best effort file servers and stuff like that. This is a guess, I have no recent experience with them and never in Asia.
Anyway you are not planning to use a VPS for DDoS mitigation, right?
No, XDP will not work on the VPS haha.
We need to have access to an actual interface,
I was speaking about the VPS since the pricing for it is insanely good IF you can actually even do 1/10th of the speed advertised.
it is TATA and NTT
it is a bit oversold, but decent for the price
You can get quite a bit of crappy, oversubscribed and heavily congested bandwidth for cheap. If that's what one is after, then they are viable.
They host mirrors for some popular shady sites interested in serving big files for very cheap, and for that and similar stuff they are fine.
I see no reason to use them for anything serious because reliable and cheap options exist elsewhere, and in my opinion it is better to have predictably decent and cheap bandwidth in the US or EU rather than crap bandwidth in SG, even if you are serving Asian end users.
I've been using Los Angeles as my APAC Anchor, I guess it will be like that for a bit until the pricing of everything goes back down.
When it comes to APAC with good connections, I can only think of GSL Networks. They do peering with a lot of major ISPs in the region and allow BGP sessions. One website I know that on GSL, Pixeldrain, are pushing over 50 Gbps on each of 7 servers in Singapore daily at peak hours. Only problems are they have their own DDOS protection system, which may clashes with yours, and you may have to colo in their infrastructure with money up front.
Here's the traceroute result from my home connection in Vietnam (VNPT):
with your use case, it would be better to go for colocation.
fun fact: GSL team hates VNPT/viettel
the 2 ISPs used to send huge ddos traffic to GSL, and when singapore POP cannot handle it, they will reroute it to other countries
HCMC <> SG should be 30-40ms, but at somepoint it hits 60-70ms due to route changes