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Seeking non-US host with reasonable abuse handling

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  • WiFiWiFi Member

    Absolutely not. I have never had a worse experience than with OVH.

    The interfaces are buggy, half of everything is in French, everything is slow, the API is unreliable, the web panel constantly throws errors, and support takes anywhere from 2 to 5 days to respond.

    It was the worst experience of my life, both with their cloud services and their dedicated servers. I will not give them another cent.

  • WiFiWiFi Member
    edited April 10

    @Francisco said: Once NameCrane/BuyVM offers domains we won't be the cheapest, we aren't going to give you "$0 markup" domains. We'll be a few dollars more, but we'll do a much better job of protecting users from BS claims.

    I chose Cloudflare not because of the price, since Porkbun was cheaper, but because of its features. You can integrate your domain with rules and pages, use variables, and save data from those variables to storage. The DNS features are brilliant as well. These are absolutely incredible features that I have never seen on other platforms. But even when they are free, the overall cost can still be high because of the risk of service interruption, as described above.

    I could not find any information about domains at my.frantech.ca for Stallion, rather than BuyVM. Could you please tell me the renewal price for a .com domain? Also, could you please point me in the right direction for transferring my domain to you?

  • @matze00 said:
    so then he can use any provider like netcup, ovh,..

    Not really, because those providers are trigger happy and don’t like to deal with “abuse” reports, even when the report system itself is being abused by bad actors.

    Thanked by 1OpaqueRegistrant
  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @WiFi said: The site is a one-page site, so even shared hosting would be enough, or a VPS with around 4 GB RAM and 40GB+ SSD/NVME storage

    namecrane/buyvm will be great place if you are doing nothing illegal. Or get some server from privatelayer/specrataip.

  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @WiFi said: but I am open to other options outside the United States.

    Also one thing, if you are hosting adult/revenge/illegal kind of sites.. never register domain with same company where your are hosting, and neither use your registrar's nameservers (get some external free dns). The reason is in the TOS. As per ICANN rules registrar has to act on some abuses and if you are using DNS+Hosting, they'll take down your site.

  • @ServerBachelor said: Not really, because those providers are trigger happy and don’t like to deal with “abuse” reports, even when the report system itself is being abused by bad actors.

    Netcup might be trigger-happy but OVH seems to be decent and can give some time to respond but yeah @WiFi has discounted OVH because of their previous personal experience so its out of the question too.

    Also @WiFi I think that saragoldfarb is right in the sense that it is not-legal for cloudflare to restrict your domain to be transferred so you should be able to do something about it hopefully.

  • edited April 10

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @WiFi said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: As a rule of thumb, you should never, ever, ever have a domain with Cloudflare unless you're ok that it could suddenly vanish or be redirected to a completely different website or one that impersonates yours.

    Got it. I will move it away from them.

    What would be a good option for transferring the domain? Njalla?

    They seem to work through a major US registrar, so I do not understand how they can be considered reliable or bulletproof.

    Njalla isn't bulletproof. If they don't like you, they will kick you off. But they are run by someone who used to run The Pirate Bay, so they're probably not that scared by courts.

    Njalla domains are registered in his name, not yours. Because they are his, he can mess with them if he wants to. So far, he only does that with Nazi sites and child porn sites, and then proudly brags about stealing their money. It's up to you to decide if you still trust the guy after that.

    It's important to clarify that since there's no "master list" of domains Peter Sunde has stolen, it is impossible to claim that he "only" does that with Nazi and illegal porn.

    No matter who you are, Njal.la is to be assumed unsafe.

    There's no master list of anyone banned by anyone. Google also steals accounts, so does Facebook, and Twitter, and Discord, and any other company you can name. Any registrar - Namecheap, Porkbun, Dynadot, GoDaddy. Sometimes the registries themselves. And there's never a master list. Sometimes (dystopianly often) the government even steals lives. And they don't make a master list either.

    What we do know is that everyone who publicly complained about Njalla was doing nazi shit or illegal porn.

  • matze00matze00 Member

    It would be good to know what OP wants to host. He says that the website is legal, another user says the site would be illegal in Europe.

  • @matze00 said:
    It would be good to know what OP wants to host. He says that the website is legal, another user says the site would be illegal in Europe.

    @WiFi offered to share his site with anyone who asks for it over PM. I saw it myself. Don’t know European laws well, but there’s nothing questionable from my POV.

    Thanked by 3WiFi lothos slowservers
  • RabisuRabisu Member, Patron Provider

    Hey! We can definitely help you find a suitable non-US VPS for your project. Here’s a plan that matches your requirements, available in locations like Germany:

    • 2 vCPU (AMD Ryzen)
    • 4 GB RAM
    • 40 GB NVMe SSD
    • DDoS Protection
    • Free Backups
    • Starting at $4.83/mo

    Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions – we're here to assist!

    Best regards,
    Rabisu

    Rabisu — United States | Looking Glass

  • slowserversslowservers Member, Host Rep

    Sounds like a real pain! And a 4GB server for a single page site seems pretty excessive.

    Maybe try NeoCities? https://neocities.org/

    A server just seems overkill for that, though it does work. I'm sure if you want/need a VPS for it, Incognet would work out great.

    Through SporeStack EU I have a 768MB plan for $6/month, in Amsterdam or Stockholm. Cheapest option I have is $4.50/month on Slow Servers which is IPv6-only, but I'd setup SNIProxy so your site can be reached over IPv4. With Slow Servers I also offer DNS hosting.

    I review complaints before deleting servers. Most complaints I get are legitimate, but a few have been pretty stupid, or don't fit completely into one bucket or another.

  • @slowservers said:
    Sounds like a real pain! And a 4GB server for a single page site seems pretty excessive.

    Maybe try NeoCities? https://neocities.org/

    A server just seems overkill for that, though it does work. I'm sure if you want/need a VPS for it, Incognet would work out great.

    Through SporeStack EU I have a 768MB plan for $6/month, in Amsterdam or Stockholm. Cheapest option I have is $4.50/month on Slow Servers which is IPv6-only, but I'd setup SNIProxy so your site can be reached over IPv4. With Slow Servers I also offer DNS hosting.

    I review complaints before deleting servers. Most complaints I get are legitimate, but a few have been pretty stupid, or don't fit completely into one bucket or another.

    I think that the reason that they have a website/vps need for it is because they need the ability for getting forms because they want to gather more evidence/things too from my understanding.

    Thanked by 1slowservers
  • rpqurpqu Member

    Huh, what happened to @rabisu

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  • whynotlearnwhynotlearn Member
    edited April 10

    @rpqu said:
    Huh, what happened to @rabisu

    Yea just saw user involucerated please carry on... after reading your message

    A little fishy, they were responding in multiple threads prior. Not sure.

    (Edit: seems like they are banned?) Not sure :/

  • WiFiWiFi Member

    @slowservers said: Sounds like a real pain! And a 4GB server for a single page site seems pretty excessive.

    The storage requirement I mentioned comes from the VPS and control panel overhead, not from the website itself. That would be uncomfortably tight even for a barebones Linux server with no mail stack at all.

    The actual page is tiny, around 60 KB total, which is smaller than the Apple favicon pack, lol.

    Paying $15-20/mo just to host a single static page does not really make sense. At that price point, a VPS would be a much more reasonable option.

  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep
    edited April 10

    @rpqu said:
    Huh, what happened to @rabisu

    28 offer replies posted within 30 minutes, looks a bit spammy to me

    Thanked by 1forest
  • WiFiWiFi Member
    edited April 10

    Regarding Cloudflare, here is an update after 1.5 days. They still have not responded at all to my requests for clarification or to my objections. Absolutely no reaction. After more than 24 hours of silence, spanning two of their business days in the United States, I concluded that this was being done deliberately and decided to remove the content.

    I notified them of that decision, and a few hours later I received a brief reply to that email: "Appreciate your cooperation". No response followed regarding my requests to lift the ban. The staff member replied with exactly those three words. By the way, his name is "Wazowski," and I believe that is a pseudonym taken from a cartoon, some kind of generic alias or alter ego.

    I only realized that my domain management access had been restored by manually clicking around in the dashboard. There was no notice at all that my access had been returned.

    All of this once again confirms that their process is a black box, and that their system for imposing limits and sanctions is far worse than that of an average hosting provider. A typical provider does not begin by imposing sanctions. They first send the user a notice requesting comments and usually allow around 48 hours for a response. Here, Cloudflare silently clicks buttons in its panel, apparently without caring whether the customer is even aware of it. They act as though these actions have no effect on anyone.

  • SkMirazSkMiraz Member

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @matze00 said:
    ihostart.com seems to not really care abou DMCAs.

    We ignore DMCA, DMCA is an American law, not a European one, any person has the right to see free entertainment on the internet or access to education, to projects like z-library or annas-arhives!!!

    iHostart is also isn't the most stable or reputable.

    Owner of this brand sharing night club videos on their discord #news channel 😂

    Thanked by 2tentor rpqu
  • tentortentor Member, Host Rep

    @SkMiraz said:

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @matze00 said:
    ihostart.com seems to not really care abou DMCAs.

    We ignore DMCA, DMCA is an American law, not a European one, any person has the right to see free entertainment on the internet or access to education, to projects like z-library or annas-arhives!!!

    iHostart is also isn't the most stable or reputable.

    Owner of this brand sharing night club videos on their discord #news channel 😂

    I would trust this gentleman with a free speaks

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • matze00matze00 Member
    edited April 10

    @SkMiraz said:
    Owner of this brand sharing night club videos on their discord #news channel 😂

    Yeah he is a bit weird sometimes 😂

    Anyway, I looked into the Alexhost website hosting plans. 10€ annually seems to be a very good offer.

  • @tentor said:

    @whynotlearn said:

    @tentor said:

    @WiFi said:
    Cloudflare is protecting a fraudulent business

    They are protecting themselves from a court over a $15/year service

    Cloudflare is a bit odd company. Sometimes they can protect people who are clearly abusing their service and running something hack oriented and act within multiple days sometimes.

    There are a lot of speculations that they are US honeypot. If you think about it, it starts to make sense.

    If you think of the Snowden revelations, there's some pretty big "holy shit" hacks which will be interesting to hear the new ones the next time there's a big time leak.

  • In before WiFi reveals LET host and then LET host rage quits LET.

  • Send a collection agency after them or put a lien on something.

  • WiFiWiFi Member

    This is my last question, I hope. Who would you recommend transferring the .com domain to? Just the domain itself.

    I am separating the whole chain: registrar, DNS, proxy, and hosting. And of course, Cloudflare will no longer be the registrar.

    At the same time, I also do not want to move the domain to some large, cheap, mass-market provider like Porkbun, Dynadot, NameSilo, and so on.

    I can do Switzerland, since I already have accounts there. I can do the U.S., or really anywhere. What matters to me is that the registrar simply forwards me any domain-related complaint by email, I reply to it with my lawyer, and that is the end of it. That is the maximum level of involvement I want.

  • zedzed Member

    Just posting to say glad you got the domain loose from CF. Good luck.

    Thanked by 1WiFi
  • jayjayjayjay Member, Patron Provider

    We have Switzerland based VMs and Dedicated Servers, both of which would be fine for your requirements - DMCA etc. isn't going to be a problem here.

    Here's the list of VMs: https://www.millenial.host/portal/store/virtual-private-servers-switzerland
    And Dedicated Servers: https://www.millenial.host/portal/store/dedicated-servers-switzerland

    Any questions just drop me a line
    Thanks!

    Thanked by 1WiFi
  • conceptconcept Member

    @WiFi said:
    This is my last question, I hope. Who would you recommend transferring the .com domain to? Just the domain itself.

    I am separating the whole chain: registrar, DNS, proxy, and hosting. And of course, Cloudflare will no longer be the registrar.

    At the same time, I also do not want to move the domain to some large, cheap, mass-market provider like Porkbun, Dynadot, NameSilo, and so on.

    I can do Switzerland, since I already have accounts there. I can do the U.S., or really anywhere. What matters to me is that the registrar simply forwards me any domain-related complaint by email, I reply to it with my lawyer, and that is the end of it. That is the maximum level of involvement I want.

    I think namecheap and Incognet are your best options here. Namecheap is actually pretty solid when it comes to free speech

    Thanked by 1WiFi
  • slowserversslowservers Member, Host Rep

    I've had good luck with NameSilo. Haven't used NameCheap, but I can tell you most abusive domains seem to be hosted on there, and they don't get taken down with any expediency!

    Thanked by 1WiFi
  • WiFiWiFi Member

    Great, thank you! I am a NameSilo customer, so I can move there quickly.

    And thanks for mentioning Incognet again. They seem like great guys overall. They will be on my shortlist from the start.

    Thanked by 1whynotlearn
  • ObelousObelous Member
    edited April 11

    @slowservers said: Haven't used NameCheap, but I can tell you most abusive domains seem to be hosted on there, and they don't get taken down with any expediency!

    I do not have the same experience at all, I've reported tons (probably 50+) of domains there and they usually suspended and responded within a few minutes.

    Thanked by 1WiFi
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