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Well, I assume they run some kind of coordinator or similar, though I haven't looked into it.
How are they any better than Signal?
Yeah I guess. I'm currently at the second company where I have migrated from cloud to VPS & bare metal.
First thing I did at the past company I worked for, and did it where I'm at now as well.
Always the same story, big savings & better performance.
@emgh how do you find companies like these, I would be interested to know. Do you reach out to them or do they reach out to you, this is something that I am personally interested in too and would love to know more about!
Vitalik sent them 128 ETH (around 390k), just 4 months ago. And there is no transparency how it was spent. See: https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1993803663026860125
I’ve just been lucky. Doing completely unrelated work for people who then later end up having code/hosting related issues
I wish I could say I had a method because at that point I’d be able to scale this and help many more companies accomplish similar results but I really don’t, just luck and being at the right place at the right time
If you do decent work for the right people, that goes a long way when they need something more, they may reemember you and how good you were at fixing their stuff
Another thing is, hosting and server management is scary stuff for company owners. A wrong move could end in chaos. This means that when everything’s working, your chances of convining a change is basically impossible
What helps is them knowing you exist and what you’re capable of the second things don’t work anymore. At that point you can swoop in with the solution and it won’t seem anywhere close to as risky for them because the state of everything currently is already fucked
I will never understand why people use vercel, heroku, etc.
Thanks for your comment @emgh, it's pretty insightful (and also pretty rare on LET!)
Now I wish to ask you firstly what was the unrelated work if I may ask.
Secondly when they started having code/hosting issues, what did you say and how did that go through?
Also this comment is actually helpful so thanks for writing it @emgh, I appreciate ya broski and looking forward to your next response!
Its kind of like the reason that these are free in the start for vercel especially, atleast thats how I have seen it been used by developers in the start but then they get locked-in.
I guess its similar to the saying "first hit is free"
How Matrix compare to this one ? I just recently found out about Matrix. Never heard of session before.
I used it personally many years ago back when it had free tier for some shitty telegram bot, but I used it only because it was free and had almost no money
I have made telegram bots too but to be honest, for free, I recommend cloudflare workers for telegram bots now. Cloudflare is significantly better than vercel. vercel is like the modern oracle (which locks in with next.js etc. for example)
It is also the reason why I like sveltekit instead of next.js is that sveltekit runs like butter on Cloudflare/non Vercel platforms (even though svelte is bought by vercel, but they haven't enshittened it and svelte is chill). Astro is good as well for mostly static pages.
Cloudflare workers were not a thing back in 2018 :D
UPD. It actually was but I didn't see it when I used heroku
Yeaa a lot of people were using the free tier of heroku back then iirc until Heroku pulled the plug of free tier and I feel like that's when vercel started getting more popular.
https://www.404media.co/fbi-extracts-suspects-deleted-signal-messages-saved-in-iphone-notification-database-2/ This is not just signal's issue but just to give you a flavour how messengers are 'hacked' sometimes.
I had try to use heroku for personal use. But, it frequently run out of compute. So, I delete it and never look back. Why bother when €3/m gets you 2c(avoton)2g50g and 200mbps unmetered?
As I said I couldn't even afford €3/m spending back then, hence for something light that had to be reachable 24/7 I used heroku
Matrix is good, I mean it sits on the middle of signal and session. You would need an anonymous email provider but you can find some via say temp-mail or others much more easily than finding an anonymous phone number for signal.
Matrix also has some open source communities built around it,
Personally my opinion is signal/matrix (any is fine), within matrix check out cinny, I love cinny's UI (and setting matrix homeserver as unredacted.org or having an account there is something nice I suppose)
And maybe using SimpleX if I want something anonymous to just share but honestly yeah 99.9% matrix and signal.
I love matrix a bit more because it can be self-hosted with much easier ease and I honestly believe that companies should be using matrix or even zulip rather than slack.
Tentor I would love to hear your story of how you became a hosting provider from there. I have seen you a lot in LET but I don't know your story and I would love to hear your story man so please do share, haha!
Right, this was back when you're financially constrained.
Telegram is visionary on chatbot capability. You could do almost anything using the chat. Whatsapp capability was very limited. The only competition was Line (which is quite amazing if you read Japanese tech blog).
It's considerable upgrade to IRC bots
Line? Didn't know it had any use or popularity outside of Thailand, but now see it's also widely used in Japan and Taiwan as well. (Quick search)
I know they have some commercial bot like services, my old condo's office used to send alerts to residents with it and you could use their bot on Line to submit maintenance requests, read agreement documents, etc. Always thought it was neat, though hardly used.
Oh come on, @MannDude. It's impossible to not notice Line (or its copycat) usage on manga/anime. Hmm, wait, I think I remember something about their free speech stance, what it was? I forgot. But no phone number required is a huge plus
Line is among the best
super appbefore it was a thing. It got IM, news reader, banking integration, coupon channels, stickers, etc. It's quite heavy, roughly 200~300MB before 2020. As for Thai localization,Truewas fully integrated by 2017 or 2018