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OpenClaw 🦞

barbarzabarbarza Member
edited January 30 in General

This a discussion topic for all things OpenClaw formerly known as MoltBot formerly known as ClawdBot.

As an open source AI assistant, this has many potential benefits but also many risks.

Are you using OpenClaw? What are you using it for?

Share your cool implementations or tricks with us.

Thanked by 2oloke sillycat
OpenClaw Usage
  1. Are you using OpenClaw?70 votes
    1. Yes
      14.29%
    2. No
      50.00%
    3. Maybe in the future
      35.71%
  2. What do you think of OpenClaw?70 votes
    1. It's great!
      25.71%
    2. It's disappointing
      12.86%
    3. I couldn't get it set up
      10.00%
    4. Not using it because... (share your reason in the comments)
      51.43%
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Comments

  • ralfralf Member

    FWIW you can't submit the poll with just "no" because the 2nd part is mandatory.

    Also missing a "WTH is OpenClaw". But a quick google gets a "yeahnah" from me.

  • @ralf said:
    FWIW you can't submit the poll with just "no" because the 2nd part is mandatory.

    Also missing a "WTH is OpenClaw". But a quick google gets a "yeahnah" from me.

    Thank you for your feedback sir, topic and poll amended.

  • ailiceailice Member
    edited January 30

    I scary got pinched, it has scary claw on it, so no.

    In other side, until now I never have issue from my work mechanism and machine bothering it, is not my taste.

    I pretty sure someone could feel this good was people didnt have any idea how to start, which understandable

  • This thing was called Clawdbot like yesterday wasn't it? Google says this is the second rename.

    Thanked by 2oloke WyvernCo
  • I thought it was OpenDino, sadly isn't.

    Reguards

    Thanked by 3oloke barbarza WyvernCo
  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited January 30

    @deafcon said:
    This thing was called Clawdbot like yesterday wasn't it? Google says this is the second rename.

    You better read what happened with first rename (add scam / token to search) and then ask the question: why would someone try to rename again...

    Thanked by 2oloke ServerBachelor
  • No. I'm a programmer, not a vibe coder.

  • @JabJab said:

    @deafcon said:
    This thing was called Clawdbot like yesterday wasn't it? Google says this is the second rename.

    You better read what happened with first rename (add scam / token to search) and then ask the question: why would someone try to rename again...

    Wow. What a mess. This isn't the sort of thing I'm likely to use anyway. Missing a flight because my lobster-based AI told me it checked me in, but actually confirmed a dinner reservation isn't my idea of a good time.

  • ralfralf Member

    @JabJab said:

    @deafcon said:
    This thing was called Clawdbot like yesterday wasn't it? Google says this is the second rename.

    You better read what happened with first rename (add scam / token to search) and then ask the question: why would someone try to rename again...

    I just googled and got this article from 2 hours ago:
    https://mashable.com/article/clawdbot-changes-name-to-moltbot

    Mind you at this point, I just default to assuming any new crypto thing is probably a scam. But then the rest of the world seems to disagree with me on bitcoin at least. Although still how so many people can invest so much money in something with zero tangible value astounds me.

  • loayloay Member
    edited January 30

    I wanted to try it but it is crypto hyped.

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited January 30

    @ralf said:

    @JabJab said:

    @deafcon said:
    This thing was called Clawdbot like yesterday wasn't it? Google says this is the second rename.

    You better read what happened with first rename (add scam / token to search) and then ask the question: why would someone try to rename again...

    I just googled and got this article from 2 hours ago:
    https://mashable.com/article/clawdbot-changes-name-to-moltbot

    Mind you at this point, I just default to assuming any new crypto thing is probably a scam. But then the rest of the world seems to disagree with me on bitcoin at least. Although still how so many people can invest so much money in something with zero tangible value astounds me.

    You should rather read this
    https://dev.to/sivarampg/from-clawdbot-to-moltbot-how-a-cd-crypto-scammers-and-10-seconds-of-chaos-took-down-the-4eck
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fake-clawdbot-ai-token-hits-121840801.html?guccounter=1

    Thanked by 2oloke WyvernCo
  • @ralf said: Although still how so many people can invest so much money in something with zero tangible value astounds me.

    Same reason people invest in national currencies despite them having no tangible value. The difference is that cryptocurrency has an insane hype to it that has gotten every idiot and their dog to fashion themselves investors.

  • ralfralf Member
    edited January 30

    @forest said:
    Same reason people invest in national currencies despite them having no tangible value.

    Actually, that's not quite true.

    The main value of a fiat national currency is that you have to use it to pay taxes to your government. This means that people have a vested interest in accepting it, so that they can pay their taxes. Likewise, people providing services to government have no choice but to accept it.

    Because of that, it becomes the default currency of the country, because for the majority of people it's easier to accept it knowing that they can also spend it. But obviously in times of economic collapse, people prefer to use other more stable currencies for the bulk of their activities, only using their currency for taxes etc. (although if a country has extremely high month-on-month inflation, it's not especially clear how taxes can be meaningfully calculated over a year, and probably the currency will collapse anyway).

  • @ralf said:

    @forest said:
    Same reason people invest in national currencies despite them having no tangible value.

    Actually, that's not quite true.

    The main value of a fiat national currency is that you have to use it to pay taxes to your government. This means that people have a vested interest in accepting it, so that they can pay their taxes. Likewise, people providing services to government have no choice but to accept it.

    Because of that, it becomes the default currency of the country, because for the majority of people it's easier to accept it knowing that they can also spend it. But obviously in times of economic collapse, people prefer to use other more stable currencies for the bulk of their activities, only using their currency for taxes etc. (although if a country has extremely high month-on-month inflation, it's not especially clear how taxes can be meaningfully calculated over a year, and probably the currency will collapse anyway).

    Not to drag this post too far away from its roots, but the other main difference between crypto and national currency is the existence of a military. From a strictly amoral point of view, militaries can uphold the interest of the holders of a national currency. Let me know when Binance gets a nuke.

  • MainfrezzerMainfrezzer Member
    edited January 30

    @ralf said:

    @forest said:
    Same reason people invest in national currencies despite them having no tangible value.

    Actually, that's not quite true.

    The main value of a fiat national currency is that you have to use it to pay taxes to your government. This means that people have a vested interest in accepting it, so that they can pay their taxes. Likewise, people providing services to government have no choice but to accept it.

    Because of that, it becomes the default currency of the country, because for the majority of people it's easier to accept it knowing that they can also spend it. But obviously in times of economic collapse, people prefer to use other more stable currencies for the bulk of their activities, only using their currency for taxes etc. (although if a country has extremely high month-on-month inflation, it's not especially clear how taxes can be meaningfully calculated over a year, and probably the currency will collapse anyway).

    I think you should ask the question "wtf happened in 1971"

    Just to cut it short, a believe in something is not tangible, neither provide taxes something tangible. A sack of potatoes is more tangible.

    Thanked by 1ralf
  • zedzed Member

    @barbarza shilling for vibe coded ai personal assistant with identity crisis, call for bans!

    Thanked by 1js99520
  • ralfralf Member

    @Mainfrezzer said:

    @ralf said:

    @forest said:
    Same reason people invest in national currencies despite them having no tangible value.

    Actually, that's not quite true.

    The main value of a fiat national currency is that you have to use it to pay taxes to your government. This means that people have a vested interest in accepting it, so that they can pay their taxes. Likewise, people providing services to government have no choice but to accept it.

    Because of that, it becomes the default currency of the country, because for the majority of people it's easier to accept it knowing that they can also spend it. But obviously in times of economic collapse, people prefer to use other more stable currencies for the bulk of their activities, only using their currency for taxes etc. (although if a country has extremely high month-on-month inflation, it's not especially clear how taxes can be meaningfully calculated over a year, and probably the currency will collapse anyway).

    I think you should ask the question "wtf happened in 1971"

    Just to cut it short, a believe in something is not tangible, neither provide taxes something tangible. A sack of potatoes is more tangible.

    Taxes do provide something tangible - if you don't pay them, your government can put you in jail. So you have to have sufficient national currency to pay the amount the government has decided you need to pay. Even if all your other business is in a different currency, the government will consider the value of that income converted into the national currency and use that as the basis for the tax calculations.

    That creates a tangible demand for a national fiat currency even if the vast majority of people's daily lives is conducted in some other currency. It's not tangible in the sense that $1 is X of gold, it's tangible in the sense that you can end up being deprived of your liberty if you don't pay.

    Thanked by 1js99520
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate
  • i am not happy to give personal details on openclaw. so not using it right now.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • @forest said:
    No. I'm a programmer, not a vibe coder.

    I'm not using it for vibe coding. So far have used it to scrape data from 4000 pages of websites somI didn't have to manually go through each one, and fill a WordPress site with content.

  • @ralf said:

    @JabJab said:

    @deafcon said:
    This thing was called Clawdbot like yesterday wasn't it? Google says this is the second rename.

    You better read what happened with first rename (add scam / token to search) and then ask the question: why would someone try to rename again...

    I just googled and got this article from 2 hours ago:
    https://mashable.com/article/clawdbot-changes-name-to-moltbot

    Mind you at this point, I just default to assuming any new crypto thing is probably a scam. But then the rest of the world seems to disagree with me on bitcoin at least. Although still how so many people can invest so much money in something with zero tangible value astounds me.

    Not crypto related at all, the crypto boys have just been trying to scam off of it.

  • @ralf said:

    @forest said:
    Same reason people invest in national currencies despite them having no tangible value.

    Actually, that's not quite true.

    The main value of a fiat national currency is that you have to use it to pay taxes to your government. This means that people have a vested interest in accepting it, so that they can pay their taxes. Likewise, people providing services to government have no choice but to accept it.

    Because of that, it becomes the default currency of the country, because for the majority of people it's easier to accept it knowing that they can also spend it. But obviously in times of economic collapse, people prefer to use other more stable currencies for the bulk of their activities, only using their currency for taxes etc. (although if a country has extremely high month-on-month inflation, it's not especially clear how taxes can be meaningfully calculated over a year, and probably the currency will collapse anyway).

    I miss the days when the values of currencies was backed up by gold

  • ralfralf Member

    Different claw (AFAIK), but yeah, they probably get my vote for worst provider of 2025.

    I managed to get permanently throttled to 10Mbit/s for using 0.2% of my monthly bandwidth allowance.

    They were so bad, I didn't even give away my server, I just let it lapse as I didn't want to subject anybody else to them.

  • sharing all private chat with a thrid party is asking for problems. 2 is company, 3 is crowd.

  • Okay, this is kinda scary…

    https://www.moltbook.com/

  • sliixsliix Member
    edited January 30

    I experimented with it yes. But until we can have solid local LLM model running on our own consumers/prosumers level hardware for it, I won't be using it for anything serious.

    Thanked by 2dev077 loay
  • Need to understand it before using it so used several AIs to analyse the code base and current security issues and tracking it's upstream development commits that address security issues. Did my write up at https://github.com/centminmod/clawdbot/tree/main/explain-clawdbot which also links to other AI's earlier analysis.

  • @ralf said: The main value of a fiat national currency is that you have to use it to pay taxes to your government. This means that people have a vested interest in accepting it, so that they can pay their taxes. Likewise, people providing services to government have no choice but to accept it.

    I was thinking about people investing in foreign currencies that, to them, are useless besides the exchange value.

  • @JasonM said:
    i am not happy to give personal details on openclaw. so not using it right now.

    Isn't it supposed to run locally? It says it supports local models on the site

    Though it is kind of reckless giving any AI system a bunch of access and turning it loose. Maybe I'll try it in a sandbox environment or something later.

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