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Is your govt filtering the internet?

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  • The idiots blocked various IP ranges of CDNs. It's affected all sorts of sites including github and local news sites as well.

  • retryretry Member
    edited February 2014

    Indian Govt. blocks most of the warez sites, that too, if complained by someone with giant pockets.
    Otherwise, they just don't care.

  • kyakykyaky Member
    edited February 2014

    of course elites from the top of pyramid censor your internet. not just internet, mobile call, message, radio, ... anything that can keep you away from threatening their power. There is no absolute freedom, only relative freedom. you get freedom only when you want to believe you have the freedom. keeping people dumb numb is the best way.

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  • skagerrakskagerrak Member
    edited February 2014

    @BuyCPanel_Kevin said:
    I agree use a VPN from like Sweden or something. But I'm pretty sure the US doesn't filter any sites, at least as I've observed.

    I wonder why you bring up Sweden? Swedish providers use a DNS-filter.

    @Maounique said:
    Not in Romania. I can access any site just fine. Well, of course, not those specifically oriented to some markets, but they are blocked at source, not at destination.

    So what happened to the block-list?

  • skagerrak said: I wonder why you bring up Sweden? Swedish providers use a DNS-filter.

    Enduser, yes. Datacenter, no.

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    TarZZ92 said: was that not over-ruled recently?

    Yes, but:

    1. This was an appeals court case, and only applies directly to the particular case that was appealed; that is, for the XS4ALL and Ziggo (?) ISPs. It has no immediate effect on blocking by other ISPs.
    2. The decision can still be appealed in a higher court.
    3. As far as I am aware, XS4ALL is currently the only provider that has lifted the ban; others are looking at doing so, but have not yet done so. The infrastructure is also still there.
  • Some Indonesian ISP adding more sites and data to the filtering.

    Bigger ISP even blocked the user for sending email using normal SMTP port, so the user have to use the ISP server for sending email. But so pity, most of the user in Indonesia didn't care or didn't even know if the ISP sniffing the data they send trough the ISP.

    While, at another case, some user just use the SSH for tunnelling to get free internet access, and not for protecting their data.

  • IvanIvan Member
    edited February 2014

    Porn and torrent sites, in Malaysia. Easily bypassed by switching to Google DNS/OpenDNS/etc. lol

  • skagerrakskagerrak Member
    edited February 2014

    @William said:
    Enduser, yes. Datacenter, no.

    That may be. But aren't the datacenters also exposed to the data-retention? And besides that they have the FRA-law in sweden. I doubt that data-centers are excluded here.

  • @kerouac said:
    Turkey

    A new bill just (literally just) passed "parliament", which will allow TIB (Telecommunications Communication Presidency) to block any site without court order immediately. We're way past "porn rights" etc at this point. The government wants to stop any news reports, articles etc that are against it, at ground zero. TIB also serves like UK's GCHQ does for listening in on people.

    Thanks to all European governments who did not back Gezi protestors, especially one Mr Cameron, PM of UK, who announced support for Erdogan during Gezi protests, saying "let's not forget how Turkey has come a long way under Erdogan". We've developed economically, but we're regressing mentally everyday. TRT (State TV channel) was banned from airing Figure Skating from the upcoming Sochi olympics, because it's too "revealing".

    Did you read the full text?
    TIB can only block a site for 24 hours only. In 24 hours you must apply to a court. Otherwise the blocked site will get available again.

  • In Greece, government does not block anything on internet. Bit there is a block in the internet access at the offices of the public services (ministries, schools, municipals etc.), the employes of those services don't have access to porn/gambling/games and others.

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    This is a block from source, not government.

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  • In the UK you have no right to freedom anymore, forget about internet censorship. The regime in the UK can throw you into the black hole known as belmarsh jail without giving you a reason, evidence, trial, chance to defend yourself for an indefinite period of time. SO YOU HAVE NO REAL RIGHTS AT ALL HERE IN THE UK and you're complaining about Pakistan??? You probably have more real freedom in Pakistan than in the UK.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    skagerrak said: So what happened to the block-list?

    I do not know, checked at random some sites there, all working except those that are down everywhere. I even advertise on 220.ro, no problem.

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  • taronyutaronyu Member
    edited February 2014

    joepie91 said: Yes, but:

    This was an appeals court case, and only applies directly to the particular case that was appealed; that is, for the XS4ALL and Ziggo (?) ISPs. It has no immediate effect on blocking by other ISPs.
    The decision can still be appealed in a higher court.
    As far as I am aware, XS4ALL is currently the only provider that has lifted the ban; others are looking at doing so, but have not yet done so. The infrastructure is also still there.
    

    And KPN, UPC, T-Mobile and Tele2.

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  • @M_y said:
    TIB can only block a site for 24 hours only. In 24 hours you must apply to a court. Otherwise the blocked site will get available again.

    You're a news website, run breaking news about a gov't scandal. It should be "breaking news", just when people would hear about it, TIB takes the news website offline. This is not democracy. When you apply to a court, you have to remove the said news to get unblocked. Again, not democractic. It'll get very crappy, when courts find actual & factual news reports "not suitable" for the internet and keep you offline if you don't remove.

    Basically, this proposed "rapid blocking" just aims to stop breaking news concerning the many epic fails of our gov't get stopped before being shared massively. Any leaks will be stopped at source. 100% lack of democracy is the only thing I can call this.

    I'm sure WSJ's (The Wall Street Journal) website'll be shut off everytime they say sth about the government, as that's Prime Minister's least favourite news outlet.

    I don't know if you're from Turkey, but in case you're unaware, here's an example on how stupid internet censorship by TIB is. They blocked Sound Cloud because someone leaked telephone conversations on that website. I can't imagine how many people were annoyed, who just want to listen to indie music.

    New law also proposes includes the creation of a "ISP Union" which is obligated to oversee all ISPs and ISPs are forced to find countermeasures against those who surpass the censorship via DNS change and VPN.

    404 Democracy Not Found

  • @kerouac said:
    404 Democracy Not Found

    With new bill, SoundCloud will not block completely. Only relevant URL will be blocked. This is for urgent situations and TIB can't block any site permenantly without court order.
    Read your parliament's official documents before criticizing them.

  • DewlanceVPSDewlanceVPS Member, Patron Provider

    Pastebin was banned by Court order for 3 to 6 month and thousands of other sites was banned because of they post articles against govt.

  • Vienna said: Austria

    What this guy says ^

    No blocking, just data retention on larger ISPs (smaller are excluded, but might be taped on upstreamlevel) - Datacenters are excluded, so just use a VPS/Dedi in Austria and you have your uncensored, fullspeed, unmonitored access (most is peered on VIX or by upstream in Vienna anyway, so latency/throughput is mainly not an issue, UPC is 50/50 chance)

  • kerouackerouac Member
    edited February 2014

    @M_y said:
    Read your parliament's official documents before criticizing them.

    Dear Muhammed,

    I'm aware of the bill. The new law includes the possibility of censoring the whole site. It's stated that judges will decide which URL is to be censored, and it does say that only the specific URL will be censored, however it is also stated that the whole website can be censored if necessary. This statement is very open ended and open to abuse.

    You're focusing on sidenotes, and missing the point. Any kind of internet censorship is anti-democratic. The whole idea behind this is to stop leaks of telephone conversation recordings for, say, when Mr Prime Minister calls up the editor of a top newspaper to remove a news report he does not like.

    Is this the Turkey you want to live in? Full of corruption, and if someone wants to leak proofs of corruption, than it's destroyed online. It's not like any proof of corruption can be used where it's supposed to be used (courts) as the legal system of the country is finished.

    I don't know what your political stance is, but ironically, nobody denies that fact.

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    taronyu said: And KPN, UPC, T-Mobile and Tele2.

    I am aware that they are also blocking. It's important to realize that the judgment in the appeals case applies to the parties involved in that case; that is, Ziggo and XS4ALL. This means that other ISPs (including KPN) would need to start their own appeals case to formally be allowed to unblock it.

  • taronyutaronyu Member
    edited February 2014

    @joepie91 said:
    I am aware that they are also blocking. It's important to realize that the judgment in the appeals case applies to the parties involved in that case; that is, Ziggo and XS4ALL. This means that other ISPs (including KPN) would need to start their own appeals case to formally be allowed to unblock it.

    Yes, you are right. I mis understood your other comment.

  • DewlanceVPS said:

    Pastebin was banned by Court order for 3 to 6 month and thousands of other sites was banned because of they post articles against govt.

    India banned pastebin too? Interesting...

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