Requesting Feedback on a WordPress Hosting Control Panel

anouar

Hi everyone!

I hope you’re all enjoying some quality time with your families this time of year.

I’m looking for a few users to try out a new WordPress hosting control panel I’ve built and provide honest feedback on their experience.

If anyone is interested in giving it a try, I’d really appreciate it!
Link: https://pivotlar.com

Dazzle

Me! I want to try it out.

anouar

@Dazzle I'd really appreciate your feedback

Levi

@anouar said:

Hi everyone!

I hope you’re all enjoying some quality time with your families this time of year.

I’m looking for a few users to try out a new WordPress hosting control panel I’ve built and provide honest feedback on their experience.

If anyone is interested in giving it a try, I’d really appreciate it!
Link: https://pivotlar.com

In past I have built entire Wordpress hosting platform. So, my experience:

• Do not over-complicate. You basically provided whole php.ini editor. For what? Sensible defaults are ok for 99.98995% of users. You just masturbate your development ego with un-needed functions.
• Add some bling to your panel. For some reason users value how "pretty" control look, now it looks like cgpt generated generic crap;
• Menu items should be simple to read. No "DNS (CLOUDFLARE)". What if you change this in future? Be independant from 3rd parties as much as possible;
• Your website say "Deploy and manage WordPress on DigitalOcean, Hetzner, Vultr, Lightsail, or any custom VPS—without needing Linux expertise.". And your panel looks like designed for IT geeks. Please investigate your competition, look how they do things.

If your panel is for IT professionals - you are on a hard time buddy. Professionals would never use such panel - there is plenty of free and paid options with a lot more experience. So, decide on your audience.

anouar

@Levi said:

@anouar said:

Hi everyone!

I hope you’re all enjoying some quality time with your families this time of year.

I’m looking for a few users to try out a new WordPress hosting control panel I’ve built and provide honest feedback on their experience.

If anyone is interested in giving it a try, I’d really appreciate it!
Link: https://pivotlar.com

In past I have built entire Wordpress hosting platform. So, my experience:

• Do not over-complicate. You basically provided whole php.ini editor. For what? Sensible defaults are ok for 99.98995% of users. You just masturbate your development ego with un-needed functions.
• Add some bling to your panel. For some reason users value how "pretty" control look, now it looks like cgpt generated generic crap;
• Menu items should be simple to read. No "DNS (CLOUDFLARE)". What if you change this in future? Be independant from 3rd parties as much as possible;
• Your website say "Deploy and manage WordPress on DigitalOcean, Hetzner, Vultr, Lightsail, or any custom VPS—without needing Linux expertise.". And your panel looks like designed for IT geeks. Please investigate your competition, look how they do things.

If your panel is for IT professionals - you are on a hard time buddy. Professionals would never use such panel - there is plenty of free and paid options with a lot more experience. So, decide on your audience.

Thanks so much for your feedback @Levi! I really appreciate it and will definitely take it into consideration. 🙂

hiphiphip0

What's the folder structure of user and application? Hope there is a mapping feature.
Because I already wrote some scripts for bulk plugin update etc. This is not important.

Another feature I always want is export user, database password, application setting and use them to bulk create.
Because if one provider down, I could use that to spin a new one or prepare a server to sit by as redundancy.

anouar

@hiphiphip0 said:
What's the folder structure of user and application? Hope there is a mapping feature.
Because I already wrote some scripts for bulk plugin update etc. This is not important.

Another feature I always want is export user, database password, application setting and use them to bulk create.
Because if one provider down, I could use that to spin a new one or prepare a server to sit by as redundancy.

Thanks for the feedback, @hiphiphip0! We do offer a backup feature that lets you export your WordPress files, database, or both. Is that what you’re looking for?

hiphiphip0

@anouar said:
Thanks for the feedback, @hiphiphip0! We do offer a backup feature that lets you export your WordPress files, database, or both. Is that what you’re looking for?

No, I can use other programs to back up files and databases. However, manually creating user/databases/setting application is very time-consuming. Therefore, I would appreciate a separate export and cloning configuration function.

DrNutella

Your pricing isn’t good. Many panels do more than yours for free. And they some don’t have security liability waivers in their terms.

anouar

@DrNutella said:
Your pricing isn’t good. Many panels do more than yours for free. And they some don’t have security liability waivers in their terms.

thanks for the feedback can you suggest some of thus free tools please ?

anouar

@hiphiphip0 said:

@anouar said:
Thanks for the feedback, @hiphiphip0! We do offer a backup feature that lets you export your WordPress files, database, or both. Is that what you’re looking for?

No, I can use other programs to back up files and databases. However, manually creating user/databases/setting application is very time-consuming. Therefore, I would appreciate a separate export and cloning configuration function.

We will consider adding this to our roadmap. thanks

anouar

@Dazzle said:
Me! I want to try it out.

https://pivotlar.com I'd really appreciate your feedback

Kodis

@anouar said:

@DrNutella said:
Your pricing isn’t good. Many panels do more than yours for free. And they some don’t have security liability waivers in their terms.

thanks for the feedback can you suggest some of thus free tools please ?

So maybe
Xcloud. ( 1 server 10 projects)
gridpane.com
fastpanel.direct
cloudpanel.io ( works great, has redis and varnish)
serveravatar.com

anouar

Thanks for mentioning these services. We also offer a free plan with no time limit, which includes 1 server and up to 10 sites.
With many of the services mentioned above, access is often limited to basic features on entry-level plans, and unlocking more advanced functionality requires upgrading. In addition, the pricing models for platforms like XCloud and GridPane can become quite expensive as your needs grow.

timmmy

who is behind this tool?
no company information on your website

Kodis

@anouar said:
Thanks for mentioning these services. We also offer a free plan with no time limit, which includes 1 server and up to 10 sites.
With many of the services mentioned above, access is often limited to basic features on entry-level plans, and unlocking more advanced functionality requires upgrading. In addition, the pricing models for platforms like XCloud and GridPane can become quite expensive as your needs grow.

maybe, but depends on your needs.
Gridpane has core plan if you use vultr

anouar

@Kodis said:

@anouar said:
Thanks for mentioning these services. We also offer a free plan with no time limit, which includes 1 server and up to 10 sites.
With many of the services mentioned above, access is often limited to basic features on entry-level plans, and unlocking more advanced functionality requires upgrading. In addition, the pricing models for platforms like XCloud and GridPane can become quite expensive as your needs grow.

maybe, but depends on your needs.
Gridpane has core plan if you use vultr

Yes but Gridpane offer the most basic features under free plan

anouar

@timmmy said:
who is behind this tool?
no company information on your website

Pivotlar is Startup

malignify

New account and first post is advertising their product

anouar

@malignify said:
New account and first post is advertising their product

I’m not advertising here, I’m genuinely looking for feedback, as the post clearly mentions.

DrNutella

@anouar said:

@DrNutella said:
Your pricing isn’t good. Many panels do more than yours for free. And they some don’t have security liability waivers in their terms.

thanks for the feedback can you suggest some of thus free tools please ?

easypanel
aapanel
dokploy
coolify
keyhelp
ISPConfig
HestiaCP

barbarza

Looks 0/10. Feels 1/10. Functionality 1.2/10. Would not recommend.

DrNutella

@Kodis said:

@anouar said:

@DrNutella said:
Your pricing isn’t good. Many panels do more than yours for free. And they some don’t have security liability waivers in their terms.

thanks for the feedback can you suggest some of thus free tools please ?

So maybe
Xcloud. ( 1 server 10 projects)
gridpane.com
fastpanel.direct
cloudpanel.io ( works great, has redis and varnish)
serveravatar.com

Can I use gridpane on my own server and any server?

Kodis

@anouar said:

@Kodis said:

@anouar said:
Thanks for mentioning these services. We also offer a free plan with no time limit, which includes 1 server and up to 10 sites.
With many of the services mentioned above, access is often limited to basic features on entry-level plans, and unlocking more advanced functionality requires upgrading. In addition, the pricing models for platforms like XCloud and GridPane can become quite expensive as your needs grow.

maybe, but depends on your needs.
Gridpane has core plan if you use vultr

Yes but Gridpane offer the most basic features under free plan

Depends on what you call basic or what people need, but have trust among people.

malignify

@anouar said:

@malignify said:
New account and first post is advertising their product

I’m not advertising here, I’m genuinely looking for feedback, as the post clearly mentions.

If someone shows up out of nowhere and their first post is talking about something they made and asking for feedback...it's still essentially advertising...more so when it's not entirely free

ravi

GridPane does not allow me to create a new server on the free plan. They require adding a credit card before I can start using the Free Core plan.

anouar

@malignify said:

@anouar said:

@malignify said:
New account and first post is advertising their product

I’m not advertising here, I’m genuinely looking for feedback, as the post clearly mentions.

If someone shows up out of nowhere and their first post is talking about something they made and asking for feedback...it's still essentially advertising...more so when it's not entirely free

it is free for one server and up to 10 sites

anouar

@ravi said:
GridPane does not allow me to create a new server on the free plan. They require adding a credit card before I can start using the Free Core plan.

That’s exactly what I was trying to explain to the other commenter: platforms like GridPane and even xCloud only provide free access to very basic features, with more limitations.

anouar

@Kodis said:

@anouar said:

@Kodis said:

@anouar said:
Thanks for mentioning these services. We also offer a free plan with no time limit, which includes 1 server and up to 10 sites.
With many of the services mentioned above, access is often limited to basic features on entry-level plans, and unlocking more advanced functionality requires upgrading. In addition, the pricing models for platforms like XCloud and GridPane can become quite expensive as your needs grow.

maybe, but depends on your needs.
Gridpane has core plan if you use vultr

Yes but Gridpane offer the most basic features under free plan

Depends on what you call basic or what people need, but have trust among people.

If the free plan meets your needs, that’s perfectly fine. I’d just suggest avoiding judging something you haven’t had the chance to try

Levi

@anouar said:

@ravi said:
GridPane does not allow me to create a new server on the free plan. They require adding a credit card before I can start using the Free Core plan.

That’s exactly what I was trying to explain to the other commenter: platforms like GridPane and even xCloud only provide free access to very basic features, with more limitations.

A great observation: if big players have some limits - explore why? Usually free->paid conversion is less then 2%. So their plans are prepared with maximum conversion possible. If you give customer just enough features on free tier they will never convert to paid. It is business after all.

anouar

@Levi said:

@anouar said:

@ravi said:
GridPane does not allow me to create a new server on the free plan. They require adding a credit card before I can start using the Free Core plan.

That’s exactly what I was trying to explain to the other commenter: platforms like GridPane and even xCloud only provide free access to very basic features, with more limitations.

A great observation: if big players have some limits - explore why? Usually free->paid conversion is less then 2%. So their plans are prepared with maximum conversion possible. If you give customer just enough features on free tier they will never convert to paid. It is business after all.

Absolutely correct, and that’s a valid point. I’m not saying they should offer all their features for free. My response was specifically to the commenter who suggested that you can get all features for free by using xCloud or GridPane. as you said, they’re businesses, and it’s completely reasonable for advanced features to be part of a paid plan.