Providers: Why no Proton email addresses?

MTUser2012

On one level, this is excellent advice. Unfortunately for me, my hatred of all things google is stronger than my desire to win. It is the same for MS. My only consolation in life is taht I suspect in two years google's stock will go through the floor when people figure out AI is 100x better than google at search.

Presently, I have paid subscriptions to 3 AIs, Grok, Claude and ChatGPT. Grok recently found me exactly what I wanted in less than 10 seconds after I stupidly tried search first.

@xvps said:
Use Gmail instead, like all the scammers and spammers.

Providers don’t have the balls to block Google.

Regards,

jvnadr

@xvps said: Providers don’t have the balls to block Google.

This. After all, there are tons of services that offers "disposable" gmail accounts, so , if a scammer want to use a gmail account for fraud, he surely can without even registering his own gmail...

jvnadr

@MTUser2012 said: Nigerian prince

This is NOT a scam. Just a fact that anyone has not believed him till now... But the first that will believe and answer... $$$$$$$

TimboJones

@jvnadr said:

@MTUser2012 said: Nigerian prince

This is NOT a scam. Just a fact that anyone has not believed him till now... But the first that will believe and answer... $$$$$$$

I met a couple with the last name Prince. They didn't end up having children, but he said if had a son, he'd have named him "Nigerian".

JosephF

@xvps said:
Use Gmail instead, like all the scammers and spammers.

Providers don’t have the balls to block Google.

Regards,

It's not practical to universally block Gmail.

jvnadr

@TimboJones said: I met a couple with the last name Prince. They didn't end up having children, but he said if had a son, he'd have named him "Nigerian".

Tange

@sandoz said:
Well, for the same reason that other privacy services are banned.

The main reason (I think) for the vast majority is that people who use this type of email usually engage in some kind of common abuse that is not tolerated. So, as Proton does not require a mobile phone number to be associated with it, this service is common and used for various types of abuse, which may even be ‘legal’ but are not permitted by the vast majority. For this reason, it is blocked. With Gmail, among others, it is more difficult because it requires a mobile phone number, among other things, so the account seems more ‘legitimate’ when purchasing a service.

it's not because Gmail and Proton do not require phone number to use it, it's because they are free. you don't need phone number to get you a custom domain Email, but that's not free.

pyrolad

Custom domain with ProtonMail costs a few bucks per month and lets you have the best of both worlds: ProtonMail service + non-ProtonMail email address.

But again, it's not free, but it's not terribly expensive if it's what you're looking for.

MTUser2012

Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten that. I have a bunch of parked domains. I should just dedicate one to Proton.

@pyrolad said:
Custom domain with ProtonMail costs a few bucks per month and lets you have the best of both worlds: ProtonMail service + non-ProtonMail email address.

But again, it's not free, but it's not terribly expensive if it's what you're looking for.

Void

@MTUser2012 said:
Ha, ha. There was a time when this would have been first response. Older now, not sure any wiser. But, I wonder if I ask a question like this in the provider channel some providers might see it and take note. Probably a vain hope. But, I just move on now. But, I like to ask questions when I don't understand.

@Void said:
Which stupid provider does that? Name and shame.

I’m genuinely curious to know which provider has such absurd rules. I’ve never come across one in all these years.

wholecake

Preblocking ports, IPs, emails.... What's next??? It's the bad dangerous practice. Such providers must go to Hell!!!

TimboJones

@wholecake said:
Preblocking ports, IPs, emails.... What's next??? It's the bad dangerous practice. Such providers must go to Hell!!!

This is more about abuse prevention than censorship. I'm for reasonable abuse prevention but at the end of the day, it's their business and this isn't really discrimination against the person and would accept business through other (reasonable) contact methods. If it put undue hardship, that's something else.

OpaqueRegistrant

@zGato said:

@sandoz said:
With Gmail, among others, it is more difficult because it requires a mobile phone number, among other things, so the account seems more ‘legitimate’ when purchasing a service.

Gmail does not require a phone number to register. Only if you're registering from a hosting/flagged IP/range.

They always require one in certain European countries where everyone is expected to have a phone number and use it to sign up for things.