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Seeking provider that accepts cash

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  • nohavpsnohavps Member, Host Rep

    @Yuki_ said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    This is certainly one way to do it, but I mainly want to give providers that accept cash a chance to tell future readers of this thread that fact. It is interesting to see what providers really do take privacy seriously enough for such a thing, well some countries postal service/system might be less ideal for this and to that subset of providers I give my condolences even if they take privacy very seriously it might not be an option for them :-(

    I think you are confused about privacy, maybe you are going too far. If you go to a provider in your city with your money to pay, they will ask you who you are, what is your name, and your personal information to activate your service. If you refuse, you are within your rights. As the company has the right not to activate your services.

  • @nohavps said:

    @Yuki_ said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    This is certainly one way to do it, but I mainly want to give providers that accept cash a chance to tell future readers of this thread that fact. It is interesting to see what providers really do take privacy seriously enough for such a thing, well some countries postal service/system might be less ideal for this and to that subset of providers I give my condolences even if they take privacy very seriously it might not be an option for them :-(

    I think you are confused about privacy, maybe you are going too far. If you go to a provider in your city with your money to pay, they will ask you who you are, what is your name, and your personal information to activate your service. If you refuse, you are within your rights. As the company has the right not to activate your services.

    I do not think one can go to far when it comes to privacy.

  • LordSpockLordSpock Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2025

    I've regularly accepted all kinds of payment for hosting/IT services. I had a client almost a decade ago who was a butcher (relatively large one). Ended up agreeing on a year's supply of meat + hardware/license costs for an MSP-esque relationship.

    I'd happily rent out server space for some worthwhile cash/physical payment.

  • @LordSpock said:
    I've regularly accepted all kinds of payment for hosting/IT services. I had a client almost a decade ago who was a butcher (relatively large one). Ended up agreeing on a year's supply of meat + hardware/license costs for an MSP-esque relationship.

    I'd happily rent out server space for some worthwhile cash/physical payment.

    This sounds lovely, it is these service providers we need in this world <3

    Not bound by corporate rigidness just your local friendly hosting provider :-)

  • What about trading chickens

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  • @ehab said:

    no problem with @HostDZire

    Indian Rupees? ;)

  • @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

  • VanessaVanessa Member, Patron Provider

    @Yuki_ said:
    As we all know cash is king, but well I have had a hard time finding any providers that do accept cash. Recently I found one, and taking into consideration that at least within the VPN industry taking cash is seen as a sign that a provider really respects your privacy, I thought it ought to be the same with server hosting.

    Now the requirements are simple, what hosts accepts cash in an envelop sent to them as payment for hosting? then the question following immediately thereafter would naturally be what currencies do this provider accept?

    iWebFusion accepts cash. What servers are you looking for?

    Since 2001, web hosting provider iWebFusion.Net lives up to its slogan “Simply Hosting.” iWebFusion.Net’s reputation for reliable service, a customer-first approach, and a robust technical infrastructure means you’ll get a simple, hassle-free experience without compromising on modern capabilities or support quality. @Vanessa

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  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited August 2025

    @Flash said:

    @ehab said:

    no problem with @HostDZire

    Indian Rupees? ;)

    No we dont accept cash :D

  • @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Privacy is not a crime, well at least in my country you might be in a less fortunate situation, after all bird who lived in a cage all hes life thinks the flying bird outside is ill.

  • ShazanShazan Member, Host Rep

    We accept cash in EUR, USD and SGD only, at our address. But we do KYC anyway.

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  • what about the handwriting and fingerprints left on the envelope, and the saliva from closing it?

  • @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Someone's trigger happy :D

    Ohh no scary paper and metal money. Yknow, the stuff we've had for literally thousands of years.

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  • r3kr3k Member
    edited August 2025

    @nokotan said:
    what about the handwriting and fingerprints left on the envelope, and the saliva from closing it?

    Thanked by 2nokotan Yuki_
  • @MannDude said:
    But again, not going to accept just a single random Maple Leaf.

    A whole envelope of maple syrup though, that's ok ✅

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  • @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Privacy is not a crime, well at least in my country you might be in a less fortunate situation, after all bird who lived in a cage all hes life thinks the flying bird outside is ill.

    That isn't privacy, that's secrecy.

    Also, that fucking bird thing is stupid and irrelevant. Unless the bird needs to go do illegal shit and not have it tracked back.

  • @ServerBachelor said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Someone's trigger happy :D

    Ohh no scary paper and metal money. Yknow, the stuff we've had for literally thousands of years.

    For thousands of years. 97% of the population never left more than 10km from where they were born. Money/resource transactions done in person.

    Not sure how your point was relevant.

  • @TimboJones said:

    @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Privacy is not a crime, well at least in my country you might be in a less fortunate situation, after all bird who lived in a cage all hes life thinks the flying bird outside is ill.

    That isn't privacy, that's secrecy.

    Also, that fucking bird thing is stupid and irrelevant. Unless the bird needs to go do illegal shit and not have it tracked back.

    Yeahhh because data leaks from credit bureaus or selling to data brokers who we have no knowledge of or ability to vet don’t exist…

  • @TimboJones said:

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Someone's trigger happy :D

    Ohh no scary paper and metal money. Yknow, the stuff we've had for literally thousands of years.

    For thousands of years. 97% of the population never left more than 10km from where they were born. Money/resource transactions done in person.

    Not sure how your point was relevant.

    Because privacy was the norm then when technological limitations allowed it to be. Just because the possibility to use technology for nefarious purposes has increased doesn’t mean we should let it. Shrug.

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  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited August 2025

    My Google feed has mentioned the lady doing time for hosting laptops for North Korean hackers.

    Providers, knock yourself out. If a bit of cash is worth the risk, you probably don't have a strong business.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited August 2025

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Someone's trigger happy :D

    Ohh no scary paper and metal money. Yknow, the stuff we've had for literally thousands of years.

    For thousands of years. 97% of the population never left more than 10km from where they were born. Money/resource transactions done in person.

    Not sure how your point was relevant.

    Because privacy was the norm then when technological limitations allowed it to be.

    You sure about that? Fuck, the bible has a story of traveling far for a fucking census. Slavery was a thing. Caste system, etc. Much of history was about your family and parents, not what you as an individual could do. If you were unwed and had a baby, you were an outcast.

    Privacy is relatively new.

    Just because the possibility to use technology for nefarious purposes has increased doesn’t mean we should let it. Shrug.

    Wuh? That's my argument. Who's more nefarious, the one you see coming or the one you don't?

    He wants to use OTHER people's infrastructure, this isn't doing shit in the privacy of his bedroom that has zero effect on others.

  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited August 2025

    @TimboJones said:
    My Google feed has mentioned the lady doing time for hosting laptops for North Korean hackers.

    Providers, knock yourself out. If a bit of cash is worth the risk, you probably don't have a strong business.

    Accepting universally accepted currency for normal services isn't the same as... some lady hosting laptops in her house on her residential ISP. ( https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/07/north-korean-hackers-ran-us-based-laptop-farm-from-arizona-womans-home/ )

    "Can I pay for your services using the currency you and your business uses daily?" vs "Hey, I know this sounds weird but can I put a bunch of laptops in your house and use your wifi?" Hardly the same thing.

  • @MannDude said:

    @TimboJones said:
    My Google feed has mentioned the lady doing time for hosting laptops for North Korean hackers.

    Providers, knock yourself out. If a bit of cash is worth the risk, you probably don't have a strong business.

    Accepting universally accepted currency for normal services isn't the same as... some lady hosting laptops in her house on her residential ISP. ( https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/07/north-korean-hackers-ran-us-based-laptop-farm-from-arizona-womans-home/ )

    "Can I pay for your services using the currency you and your business uses daily?" vs "Hey, I know this sounds weird but can I put a bunch of laptops in your house and use your wifi?" Hardly the same thing.

    TimboJones doesn't have to keep moving the goalposts to try and make privacy look unreasonable. It just backfires.

  • r3kr3k Member

    @MannDude said:

    @TimboJones said:
    My Google feed has mentioned the lady doing time for hosting laptops for North Korean hackers.

    Providers, knock yourself out. If a bit of cash is worth the risk, you probably don't have a strong business.

    Accepting universally accepted currency for normal services isn't the same as... some lady hosting laptops in her house on her residential ISP.

    +
    she did way more than just "hosting laptops"

  • Yuki_Yuki_ Member
    edited August 2025

    @TimboJones said:

    @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Privacy is not a crime, well at least in my country you might be in a less fortunate situation, after all bird who lived in a cage all hes life thinks the flying bird outside is ill.

    That isn't privacy, that's secrecy.

    Also, that fucking bird thing is stupid and irrelevant. Unless the bird needs to go do illegal shit and not have it tracked back.

    If you have a look at the Cambridge dictionary you will learn that privacy is "someone's right to keep their personal matters and relationships secret", so I am not sure how you can say that something in regards to privacy is not secrecy they go hand in hand.

    The "fucking bird thing" as you put it is something I find very relevant due to the fact that you accuse me of being a criminal, that is someone who breaks the law, because of what? the fact that I am seeking privacy? for someone who has never felt or had the need for privacy, or more correctly this someone probably feels the need for it all the time they just do not know about it, it can be easy to say that the only people who would want privacy is someone doing something nefarious. Well I ask you do you not have curtains in your bedroom? do you not close and lock the door when in a public bathroom? these are just two examples of privacy that mostly everyone utilizes day to day, are you a criminal because you do not want a stranger to view you use the bathroom or when you are changing clothing?

    The "fucking bird thing" is related because the bird in the cage has never realized that he might enjoy flying same as you might not have realized that you very much would not like a completely transparent and non private society.

  • @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Privacy is not a crime, well at least in my country you might be in a less fortunate situation, after all bird who lived in a cage all hes life thinks the flying bird outside is ill.

    That isn't privacy, that's secrecy.

    Also, that fucking bird thing is stupid and irrelevant. Unless the bird needs to go do illegal shit and not have it tracked back.

    If you have a look at the Cambridge dictionary you will learn that privacy is "someone's right to keep their personal matters and relationships secret", so I am not sure how you can say that something in regards to privacy is not secrecy they go hand in hand.

    But it's not a personal relationship, it's a business transaction that is private unless you break the law. If the business owner doesn't care to know the customer they're providing and aiding services for, they're on the hook for the nefarious shit you come up with.

    The "fucking bird thing" as you put it is something I find very relevant due to the fact that you accuse me of being a criminal, that is someone who breaks the law, because of what? the fact that I am seeking privacy? for someone who has never felt or had the need for privacy, or more correctly this someone probably feels the need for it all the time they just do not know about it, it can be easy to say that the only people who would want privacy is someone doing something nefarious. Well I ask you do you not have curtains in your bedroom? do you not close and lock the door when in a public bathroom? these are just two examples of privacy that mostly everyone utilizes day to day, are you a criminal because you do not want a stranger to view you use the bathroom or when you are changing clothing?

    You're arguing privacy in your home or expected areas of privacy vs using the service of others to peak into the private servers of others. Not sure if being obtuse or just obfuscating on purpose. I'm saying you're the likely bathroom peeper in your example.

    The "fucking bird thing" is related because the bird in the cage has never realized that he might enjoy flying same as you might not have realized that you very much would not like a completely transparent and non private society.

    Fuck that shit.

    You can't preach personal privacy while arguing your right to fingerprint the internet, regardless of laws. Golden rule and shit.

  • Yuki_Yuki_ Member
    edited August 2025

    @TimboJones said:

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Someone's trigger happy :D

    Ohh no scary paper and metal money. Yknow, the stuff we've had for literally thousands of years.

    For thousands of years. 97% of the population never left more than 10km from where they were born. Money/resource transactions done in person.

    Not sure how your point was relevant.

    Because privacy was the norm then when technological limitations allowed it to be.

    You sure about that? Fuck, the bible has a story of traveling far for a fucking census. Slavery was a thing. Caste system, etc. Much of history was about your family and parents, not what you as an individual could do. If you were unwed and had a baby, you were an outcast.

    Privacy is relatively new.

    Just because the possibility to use technology for nefarious purposes has increased doesn’t mean we should let it. Shrug.

    Wuh? That's my argument. Who's more nefarious, the one you see coming or the one you don't?

    He wants to use OTHER people's infrastructure, this isn't doing shit in the privacy of his bedroom that has zero effect on others.

    I would say the majority of people do not see the threat of contact and complete monetary surveillance as a threat until its to late, take a look at Executive Order 6102 of course back in 1934 not everyone handed over their gold and the only ones who did not get their gold stolen was those who had the forethought to not brag to everyone and flaunt their gold only those who retained privacy could avoid having a unpredictable executive order punish them no one saw this threat coming. If you use transparent blockchains or relay on the banking system to use and keep your wealth safe then you are only one executive order or law away from having all your wealth stolen or maybe you just happen to travel to another country that has such laws you are not familiar with, lets say china implements a law that says bitcoin wallets worth over $10k is supposed to be handed over to the state and you travel with your laptop containing $15k now you are arrested in china and sent to a prison until you hand over those $5k since they can see on the blockchain that you have a wallet with over $10k.

    This same apply to data brokers and privacy policies people don't see the threat until someone uses this data to stalk them. "Oh yeah sure candy crush install these tracking SDKs on my device whatever I have nothing to hide" two years later you are being harassed by someone who knows all your contacts all your usual travel routes and all that because you could not see this coming, not due to privacy but the lack thereof.

    Yes I want to use other peoples infrastructure but you can not say that I will or will not do something that has zero effects on others, maybe I just want to host my own VPN server? does that affect other people?

  • @TimboJones said:

    @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @Yuki_ said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @nohavps said:
    Why don't you look for a service company in your city, go to the office and pay for what you want to buy?

    Cause he's a criminal!?!

    Privacy is not a crime, well at least in my country you might be in a less fortunate situation, after all bird who lived in a cage all hes life thinks the flying bird outside is ill.

    That isn't privacy, that's secrecy.

    Also, that fucking bird thing is stupid and irrelevant. Unless the bird needs to go do illegal shit and not have it tracked back.

    If you have a look at the Cambridge dictionary you will learn that privacy is "someone's right to keep their personal matters and relationships secret", so I am not sure how you can say that something in regards to privacy is not secrecy they go hand in hand.

    But it's not a personal relationship, it's a business transaction that is private unless you break the law. If the business owner doesn't care to know the customer they're providing and aiding services for, they're on the hook for the nefarious shit you come up with.

    But that's the thing it is not "private unless you break the law" as long as you are using non private payment alternatives like bank transfers, credit cards or transparent blockchains the fact that you bought hosting from this provider is pretty much public information, more or less depending on the specific payment method.

    The "fucking bird thing" as you put it is something I find very relevant due to the fact that you accuse me of being a criminal, that is someone who breaks the law, because of what? the fact that I am seeking privacy? for someone who has never felt or had the need for privacy, or more correctly this someone probably feels the need for it all the time they just do not know about it, it can be easy to say that the only people who would want privacy is someone doing something nefarious. Well I ask you do you not have curtains in your bedroom? do you not close and lock the door when in a public bathroom? these are just two examples of privacy that mostly everyone utilizes day to day, are you a criminal because you do not want a stranger to view you use the bathroom or when you are changing clothing?

    You're arguing privacy in your home or expected areas of privacy vs using the service of others to peak into the private servers of others. Not sure if being obtuse or just obfuscating on purpose. I'm saying you're the likely bathroom peeper in your example.

    You don't know what I will be utilizing this server for. You can not draw a parallel between two separate requests, one seeking for a provider that accepts cash and one for scanning internet services these are two different threads I am simply interested in both these topics that does not mean I will find a provider that accepts both these things, if I were to be seeking a provider that accepts both cash and service fingerprinting then I would have made a single thread specifying both. This is like saying just because I am inquiring with and about different schools to put my kid in and going to the gun range that I am about to do a school shooting. These are two separate matters.

    The "fucking bird thing" is related because the bird in the cage has never realized that he might enjoy flying same as you might not have realized that you very much would not like a completely transparent and non private society.

    Fuck that shit.

    You can't preach personal privacy while arguing your right to fingerprint the internet, regardless of laws. Golden rule and shit.

    I am preaching privacy in private transactions and private places I am not arguing for the removal of all surveillance, I think public CCTV for crime prevention is a good thing just like I think being allowed to scan public internet services is a good thing.

    I do not wish to scan your LAN facing services I want to scan your WAN facing services just like I want CCTV in public places but not in out homes.

  • @Yuki_ said:

    But it's not a personal relationship, it's a business transaction that is private unless you break the law. If the business owner doesn't care to know the customer they're providing and aiding services for, they're on the hook for the nefarious shit you come up with.

    But that's the thing it is not "private unless you break the law" as long as you are using non private payment alternatives like bank transfers, credit cards or transparent blockchains the fact that you bought hosting from this provider is pretty much public information, more or less depending on the specific payment method.

    "Pretty much public information", no that isn't correct. This isn't Venmo on default settings. Companies are legally required to limit access and take measures to protect that data, specifically to not make it public.

    You made it seem like you wanted protection from data breaches but now it's a taxation issue for you. Are you one of these "natural person" cunts that just hides their money and avoids taxes?

    You don't know what I will be utilizing this server for. You can not draw a parallel between two separate requests, one seeking for a provider that accepts cash and one for scanning internet services these are two different threads I am simply interested in both these topics that does not mean I will find a provider that accepts both these things, if I were to be seeking a provider that accepts both cash and service fingerprinting then I would have made a single thread specifying both. This is like saying just because I am inquiring with and about different schools to put my kid in and going to the gun range that I am about to do a school shooting. These are two separate matters.

    Yes, I accept that answer, I was born yesterday on the back of a turnip truck. /s
    Your analogies are just dumb and incorrect. I still can't tell if intentionally being obtuse or you don't realize they're wrong.

    I am preaching privacy in private transactions and private places I am not arguing for the removal of all surveillance, I think public CCTV for crime prevention is a good thing just like I think being allowed to scan public internet services is a good thing.

    Why? If they wanted you to use those services, they would have asked you. And then wtf are YOU doing with this information? Talking about fucking data brokers, you're acting like one. So I guess, "takes one to know one, eh?"

    I do not wish to scan your LAN facing services I want to scan your WAN facing services just like I want CCTV in public places but not in out homes.

    For what purpose? You were not asked to, why are you not respecting our privacy? At best you're annoying and at worst a bad actor.

    Red flags everywhere. As I said before, a company doing business with you has to be desperate to risk doing business with you.

  • i would totally accept all cash.

    just not gonna provide any service.

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