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Ah ok. I thought they can just attach to your VPS through some administration console where they have full root access. I need to read up on KVM and XEN then, cause I do like the fact that it provides more privacy/ensures that they can't access without shutting down and mounting.
It can be done without unmounting. Salvatore did this on a KVM who's process was stuck in a D state. He dd-ed the whole disk cloning the VM.
It doesn't. It just makes it harder for the host node to screw around with it, not impossible.
My rtorrent and libtorrent are both "rnoyou" and "libnoyou" , you wouldn't find these. What do you do now with your fancy top scraper?
Add both of the names now that you've told me obviously! :P
We have multiple custom scripts for the sake of different detection methods. This is just an example of one of them.
We don't kill torrents on US nodes. Perhaps your host node was given the wrong script. Shoot us a ticket.
Just out of curiosity, why are torrents allowed in US where surveillance laws supposedly crack down the hardest on them ?
I've wondered this too, maybe their NL doesn't allow it? I can't find anything from HostHatch or serverius.com.
RamNode NL is in Dataplace, not Serverius. Dataplace might have a policy against it, I don't know.
Oh, you're right, I thought they had some agreement with HostHatch or something along those lines? Maybe i'm just crazy...
Actually it has nothing to do with surveillance. The bandwidth is just abused and people don't often adhere to the limits we require in the AUP
But in US they do ?
And, one of the purposes stated for the surveillance is that they try to prevent piracy. So, locally in US would be the hardest to do torrenting with NSA+RIAA+whatever other lobby group at your door the next day. Not to mention the automated settlement offers and all that.
I dont do torrenting was just curious how it all works out.
i love how anytime someone talks about torrents; its automatically assumed they must be warez'ing.
It is, if the traffic is 10% legit and you have 100 torrenters you can expect them to be at least half illegal. There is no reliable legit way to check.
Content and the protocol used to carry the content are to different things. Most internet traffic isn't legit according to one or other national jurisdiction. Now what? close internet?
The US gets a bad rap because of NSA and DMCA, but unlike the EU, there are no mandatory data retention laws. So while copyright enforcement may be more strict, the idea that one is less surveilled outside the US is ludicrous. At the very least, we are supposed to be entitled to privacy. Outside the US, the NSA doesn't have to pretend to worry about pesky things like civil liberties.
I still don't understand one important point here from Crissic's support WebSearchingPro..
Riz:
"He also repeated all the commands I had typed over SSH."
WebSearchingPro:
"We did not browse through your server in this case, the software parses the ps command for us with some regex."
@Riz: Did he repeat all the commands or all the commands, that contained torrent in its name? Just curious.
We reviewed a copy of the IRC chatlog, Web referenced the one line that Riz mentioned that had the sftp torrent@ and nothing more.
I was not talking about NSA surveilling torrents of latest Iron Spider movie (though they might make an extra buck by taking some contracts), of course they spy on everyone, however it will be hard to sue anyone over national security because they downloaded some movie. I was talking about the laws that allow for third parties (in this case IP rights holders) to use data collected by ISPs in the name of national security.
Who cares there is no law for data retention do you think that yahoo will not keep the data if NSA asks them ? They do "voluntarily":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_data_retention#United_States
At least in EU there are judicial checks over who sees what.
Ah right, how cute. I forgot, the British, Germans, French, etc haven't all been exposed doing the very same thing from Snowden's leaks. "Checks"...how adorable. They're all working together. It's just like the gambling scene in Casablanca.
But beyond that, what you said makes no sense:
So it's hard to sue someone over copyrighted material in the name of national security? Or it isn't? Besides the obvious contradiction, there are no laws that allow IP rights holders to collect ISP data in the name of national security.
The ratio of torrent traffic to "other" traffic in the US versus EU was dramatically skewed toward torrents. If the average US node was doing 20Mbps of torrents constantly (I don't have the actual numbers anymore), the NL node was doing 150Mbps. It was to the point where we were going to have to charge a lot more or offer a lot less. Perhaps the EU network is better able to facilitate torrent traffic, but the heavy usage was nowhere near the same problem in our US locations (even when people break our AUP).
Openvz is just an advanced chroot, it is not real virtualisation. If you want more security and reduce the risk of a rouge host looking into your stuff then always use KVM / Xen. Preferably encrypt the disk too.
Of course not, that is done "voluntarily". It is also not in the name of national security but, since the ISPs are volunteering to send it to NSA anyway, why not make a buck from the trolls too ?
I am not sure what you mean in general, my points are:
In short, in US the law does not force ISPs to collect data (only judges can), but they volunteer or sell it not only to the government, but to third parties also, while in EU there is a law (BTW, does not apply to everyone, only to telecom companies, for example, Prometeus does not have to comply and we do not keep logs of visited IPs and such) to keep records, but those are available to a third party only under judicial supervision, it is forbidden sharing it otherwise.
It is the juducial supervision that makes the difference, a judge should make sure the citizen's rights are protected. That probably does not happen in many cases, but when ound to be breaching this, even governments pay hefty fines and have to drop the cases where data was obtained illegally.
Show me where ISPs are selling data to third parties. Show me one instance.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/29449-compete-ceo-isps-sell-clickstreams-for-5-a-month
well I wouldn't store my mothers porn on it
what a nub, he should try hitleap