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I need some help selecting a stable network
Hello!
I am running multiple bridges over the European networks (cheap providers, more than 1 tb traffic). My own kind of self-healing VPN, if you like, and I am looking to upgrade it.
I need more nodes with different providers with the following requirements:
1. Stable network. Dropping more than once a week is not stable, regardless of how fast it comes back;
2. Low cost. Except for the network, I don't need anything else, I don't do anything heavy, just many packets (compared to normal browsing, something like 50-100/sec at peak, not flood or anything like that) with low payload;
3. Europe only.
What I do not need:
1. Lots of traffic, 1 tb is enough;
2. Low latency. While packet loss won't be tolerated, there can be many hops or some weird routing involved, the whole point is the weird routing;
3. Storage (fast or slow), 2 gb is enough, fast CPU, moving packets around should be doable by even a 486DX66.
I have no problems paying for a year.
Keep in mind that the most important thing is network stability. It can lag, but not drop or have packet loss, especially packet loss will fuck my routing as I setup high sensitivity for this and the routes would keep flapping.
So, which networks in Europe would you rate as best? I am already using OHV (good) to give you an example. They drop less than once a week in multiple locations and I am looking for similar.
I don't like hezner, netcup for example, they give good throughput but switch routes too often for my setup. I don't need throughput and even low latency, just stability.
Go ahead and recommend any provider, no matter big or small, I don't care for the money, just for the time to setup the whole thing, buying, installing, configuring... If it works for 6 months even as I paid for 12, i think it is good enough for the effort.
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AWS Lightsail?
Thanks for reply, but too expensive. I am looking for 1 usd a month if paid yearly max 2 if paid monthly.
netcup's 12EUR/year server?
I have it, it is almost acceptable, but the routes are changing more than once a week, once every other day is too much, my home connection is switching routes much less than once a week, I would expect a DC to do better. It is in use now but, if possible, I would replace it with something a bit more stable.
Otherwise, yeah, ticks all boxes.
IONOS
the host2 nexus 50 cent a month vps has perfect uptime for me
I am not looking for uptime, just network stability. Of course, you can't have good network during downtime, just that only uptime is not enough. How is the network? Are you monitoring it?
I PM'ed you! @Maounique
Yes, I meant kuma uptime
Interesting setup! I agree that stability is way more important than raw speed, especially for sensitive routing like yours. I’ve had good experience with smaller European hosts who prioritize uptime over flashy specs. Sometimes even a basic VPS does the job if the route is clean and doesn’t flap. Curious if anyone’s tried newer providers with strict packet loss thresholds?
Same here, however, digging them out from so much noise is time consuming, so I was wondering whether someone has a whitelist and some of those could satisfy my criteria or not, but could still nominate a few candidates.
Greetings,
If Turkey/Istanbul location works for you, feel free checking our plans
You can contact sales team for example IP to check.
https://tarisu.com/category/vps-server
Regards.
Page not found and clicking servers leads to a blank page.
My bad, fixed.
Are you sure? I still get exactly the same.
have you considered @Clouvider in london?
Given this requirement I believe that your best option are singlehomed providers connected to Tier-1 ISP directly. Other will most probably change routes "too frequently".
Greetings,
Link is working.
https://tarisu.com/category/vps-server
Regards
+1 for clouvider
Why would that be? Once a connection is established, then it should stay on unless the upstream fails. I get it, prioritize one over the other etc., but should not affect established connections.
I have specially quoted "switches routes", nothing about established connections dropping.
That is my problem, leads to disconnects, along with the other plague, packet loss, which force my internal paths to change back and forth.
A few providers are singlehomed to RETN, like VEESP or RuVDS.
They use RETN only in most locations.
However, it can be useful but mostly its a worse route, except you need that exact path.
Makes your connection in theory stable but your latency will be higher.
What is your use case? I use mostly UDP so I don't mind routes switching, neither seems TCP to be affected that much for me, except for Downloads.
Hello,
You should probably take a look in our VPS Locations in France and Sweden. Perhaps Switzerland also is a good way.
Check our VPS:
https://alexhost.com/vps/vps-europe/
VPS in France:
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VPS in Sweden (in Tallberg, not common to see..):
https://alexhost.com/vps/vps-europe/vps-sweden/
Switzerland is also a good choice.
If you don't like it, we give the money back (AUP applies).
Best Regards,
Alexhost
powerful hardware is needed to track each connection and binding it to one of the routes, i don't think anyone does that and i don't really see a point. A connection should never drop because the route has changed (except when you change your ip address or NAT gateway), it is completely transparent for the server and client. I have a vpn connected 24/7 and route to the server changes very often, maybe once in a a few hours or so, it's visible because ping time inside the tunnel changes slightly (up to 10ms difference), i can wait for the route to change again or reconnect to get better ping (different source and dest ports go through different routes).
1 usd/m is too little, and the most common issue of cheap vps providers is the network.
I couldn't find any location within the price range. Maybe give me a direct link?
Could be 2, I actually bought one for 2, I find the CPU/disk to be the most oversold resource and the network is a problem for bigger throughput or lagging, not often packet loss or route changing.
which?
@LowHosting PMed me and we agreed on a deal. It looks solid so far. 2 Eur a month.
Latency is not an issue, I specified this. Everything is within Europe, so, even if latency would be high for Europe, I don't think it would go much over 100 and practice shows that is very rare and usually associated with other issues, such as packet loss. I don't need an exact path, I am experimenting with my own stack (well, coding is done by a friend per my specs) as I want to built a kind of layer 8 unbreakable network and distributed computing/storage with instances floating somewhere.
I was confronted with this choice very early on, but decided against UDP only implementations because, first, there are already some choices there and, second, there are many TCP apps and encapsulating everything in a tunnel is not ideal.
Before you name already made solutions out there, I have tested all and none offers the features I need, nor are they even possible with that implementation. My dream is to have one supercomputer shared by millions where everyone contributes storage, BW and CPU and can run VMs in it according to what they are contributing, a Netizen's Internet, but not only, with shared everything and everything free but proportional to what you contribute.
I know it is not impossible, albeit just the two of us are going slow. We will OS once all features work at least for a bit.