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Email or token-only hosting providers (no name, phone number, address, etc)?

edited April 28 in Providers

Can anyone recommend hosting providers that only ask for an email (or token) when registering for an account? As opposed to name, phone number, address, etc.

Off the top of my head, a few providers like that are on LET already.

@MannDude @tentor @hostiko

Are there any others I should be aware of? (They don't have to be on LET).

I am not counting providers that only exempt crypto users from providing personally identifying information ( e.g. @alexhost, @Francisco ). My purpose with this thread isn't to prevent the host from knowing who I am, per se, since I already use paypal and credit card. Instead, it's to minimize the amount of information that could show up in a data leak.

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  • zGatozGato Member

    @crunchbits most data is optional but they still require full name, email and country.

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  • ailiceailice Member
    edited April 28

    Kyun.host sell calin box and chicken crunchbits without PII @naphtha

  • @zGato said:
    @crunchbits most data is optional but they still require full name, email and country.

    Acceptable middle ground tbh, though not ideal

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  • @ailice said:
    Kyun.host sell calin box without PII @naphtha

    @Calin is his upstream??

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  • zGatozGato Member

    @ServerBachelor said:

    @ailice said:
    Kyun.host sell calin box without PII @naphtha

    @Calin is his upstream??

    For Bucharest yeah, @crunchbits is for Spokane

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  • Typically providers don’t validate this stuff so you can actually just put in whatever you want, this may be problematic if they want to KYC you in the future though.

    Thanked by 2Calin ServerBachelor
  • SpiritsSpirits Member

    Just ask a homeless guy and give him a meal or some cash if you dont want to use your real data.

  • @Spirits said:
    Just ask a homeless guy and give him a meal or some cash if you dont want to use your real data.

    :D

  • naphthanaphtha Member
    edited April 28
  • No credit card or PayPal.

  • estnocestnoc Member, Patron Provider

    at least in EU, all providers need to collect at least full name, e-mail, address and phone nr. without this info, it is considered as "anonymous" web hosting service aka grey area stuff and thus not allowed and sooner or later company offering such anonymous services, will get itself into legal battle.

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  • @estnoc said:
    at least in EU, all providers need to collect at least full name, e-mail, address and phone nr. without this info, it is considered as "anonymous" web hosting service aka grey area stuff and thus not allowed and sooner or later company offering such anonymous services, will get itself into legal battle.

    EU providers are a different case for me. EU countries tend to take data protection more seriously. But I still think it’s unfortunate that such regulations exist.

  • EU again! ;)

  • alexhostalexhost Member, Patron Provider

    @ServerBachelor said:
    Can anyone recommend hosting providers that only ask for an email (or token) when registering for an account? As opposed to name, phone number, address, etc.

    Off the top of my head, a few providers like that are on LET already.

    @MannDude @tentor @hostiko

    Are there any others I should be aware of? (They don't have to be on LET).

    I am not counting providers that only exempt crypto users from providing personally identifying information ( e.g. @alexhost, @Francisco ). My purpose with this thread isn't to prevent the host from knowing who I am, per se, since I already use paypal and credit card. Instead, it's to minimize the amount of information that could show up in a data leak.

    Hi,

    We Alexhost, we don't verify if the customer data is correct or not when you register with us, if your information is not real, it can trigger Anti-Fraud databases.

    But we don't require the name or email address, we just need your email, the rest we don't know if is true or not.

    If you pay with Crypto we don't ask for KYC, but if you pay with credit card or paypal it may trigger their Anti-Fraud. That's the main issue.

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  • onidelonidel Member, Patron Provider, Megathread Squad

    We don't ask for KYC

  • 4vps.su only require email

  • AlyxAlyx Member, Host Rep
    edited April 28

    We don't do any KYC.
    The order-form requires a name, but you are free to choose what ever you like.
    It's mostly so we can address you in emails and tickets. (and maybe because we are to lazy to mod WHMCS to make that field optional too)

    We accept PayPal, Creditcards (stripe) and Crypo (CoinGate).

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  • @ServerBachelor said:
    Can anyone recommend hosting providers that only ask for an email (or token) when registering for an account? As opposed to name, phone number, address, etc.

    Off the top of my head, a few providers like that are on LET already.

    @MannDude @tentor @hostiko

    Are there any others I should be aware of? (They don't have to be on LET).

    I am not counting providers that only exempt crypto users from providing personally identifying information ( e.g. @alexhost, @Francisco ). My purpose with this thread isn't to prevent the host from knowing who I am, per se, since I already use paypal and credit card. Instead, it's to minimize the amount of information that could show up in a data leak.

    1984.hosting, 1984.is

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  • DataWagonDataWagon Member, Patron Provider

    Typically accepting payment via credit card will require at the very minimum a name + address, in order to pass billing address checks for the cards. We require no PII from users paying with crypto, but do require a name and address for anyone paying with a credit card.

  • emperoremperor Member

    i know noez.de lets you order with email only.

  • ManishPantManishPant Member, Host Rep

    We don't require KYC — you can enter anything for your name and other details. The only requirement is a working email address so you can receive your server login details once setup is complete.

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  • barbarosbarbaros Member
    edited April 28

    @CharityHost_org

    too soon?

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  • @JohnFilch123 said:
    4vps.su only require email

    I’m not looking for Russian providers, but thanks for the suggestion.

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  • I was their customer. I can verify this isn’t the case.

  • @onidel said:
    We don't ask for KYC

    Your registration page requests name, number, address?

  • quicksilver03quicksilver03 Member, Host Rep

    For https://www.ptrdns.net I ask for an email address, to which AWS SES sends a validation email, then a first and last name (which I'm not going to pretend to validate, see falsehoods programmers believe about names).

    Once registered, the browser loads a page from Chargebee, the subscription provider I use, which in turn asks for first and last name, physical address and payment details. Chargebee performs some anti-fraud checks, the details of which I'm not privy to, and then stores this data for billing, invoicing and tax reporting.

    I'm not sure to what extent any of this amounts to KYC, but it's the smallest amount of data I could settle with in order to respect the legal and tax obligations I have as a service provider. I certainly don't want to ask my customers for proof of address or copies of national IDs, that's way too invasive, and too dangerous should this data leak somewhere.

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  • @quicksilver03 said:
    For https://www.ptrdns.net I ask for an email address, to which AWS SES sends a validation email, then a first and last name (which I'm not going to pretend to validate, see falsehoods programmers believe about names).

    Once registered, the browser loads a page from Chargebee, the subscription provider I use, which in turn asks for first and last name, physical address and payment details. Chargebee performs some anti-fraud checks, the details of which I'm not privy to, and then stores this data for billing, invoicing and tax reporting.

    I'm not sure to what extent any of this amounts to KYC, but it's the smallest amount of data I could settle with in order to respect the legal and tax obligations I have as a service provider. I certainly don't want to ask my customers for proof of address or copies of national IDs, that's way too invasive, and too dangerous should this data leak somewhere.

    Pretty cool. As for your question, I’m fine giving info to the payment gateway, since they have my credit card anyhow. It’s more about giving info to the actual service provider that I find unnecessary.

    I also like the naming scheme of ptrDNS. Definitely fits the theme of your username :D

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  • @JohnFilch123 said:
    4vps.su only require email

    Stable? They have some pretty good locations that I'm interested in..

  • conceptconcept Member

    @ethanblake87 said:

    @JohnFilch123 said:
    4vps.su only require email

    Stable? They have some pretty good locations that I'm interested in..

    Depends on the locations, some are better than others.

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  • @ethanblake87 said: Stable? They have some pretty good locations that I'm interested in..

    I used them a few times, it was pretty stable for me. However, I would not do any production using them.

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