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  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran

    @Francisco said: You could put '%' but ONLY IF YOU USE A STRONG PASSWORD.

    PLEASE.

    It would be useful to offer either SSH tunneling or a VPN or something for this use case, as a rudimentary implementation of "two factor" auth (the first factor being the SSH or VPN private key, and the second factor being the password).

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Daniel15 said: It would be useful to offer either SSH tunneling or a VPN or something for this use case, as a rudimentary implementation of "two factor" auth (the first factor being the SSH or VPN private key, and the second factor being the password).

    I was thinking just SSL certificate authentication. VPN is interesting but it becomes a whole lot more to manage.

    Francisco

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 31

    @Kevinf100 said:
    No. In fact I just notice, I have my VPN on and I can login to phpMyAdmin while it's not whitelisted (the ip).

    This should all be sorted :)

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @Kevinf100 said:
    No. In fact I just notice, I have my VPN on and I can login to phpMyAdmin while it's not whitelisted (the ip).

    This should all be sorted :)

    Francisco

    Looks like phpMyAdmin disable is fully working. IP lock on phpMyAdmin is not tho.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Kevinf100 said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Kevinf100 said:
    No. In fact I just notice, I have my VPN on and I can login to phpMyAdmin while it's not whitelisted (the ip).

    This should all be sorted :)

    Francisco

    Looks like phpMyAdmin disable is fully working. IP lock on phpMyAdmin is not tho.

    Phpmyadmin always runs as localhost, the allowed ip stuff won’t matter. Thats why we have the phpmyadmin as a separate control.

    Francisco

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  • SmigitSmigit Member
    edited March 31

    @Francisco said:

    @Smigit said:
    super minor thing, but on the add users page, if you select ‘all’ for permissions the other checkboxes are disabled, but on my display anyway its incredibly subtle to the point that initially I didn’t even notice boxes had gone read only. Maybe the text should respond too to help with readability.

    Also if invalid characters are used on the username, some red message might be warranted next to the username field to say there’s invalid characters. I was also able to submit a username that was just a space, and had the following user created: “sql22006_”. Looks like it gets truncated down and only the standard prefix is used as the name

    Edit: Database name is the same. Can supply an empty string that gets truncated down, and I assume isn’t really the intention and that you want at least 1 alphanumeric.

    This has been fixed 🐀

    Francisco

    Yep, that’s working as expected

    @Francisco said:

    @JabJab said:

    @Francisco said: It copies for me without issue. What browser are you on? I’ll make it more obvious that it’s a button.

    Oh fuck me. I tested it more... it works, if you click on the icon, not the whole span/div around it. Icon good, grey area bad. Please fix :')
    Mouse over effect, maybe some blink/flash/label/toast that you copied that?

    Chrome is up to date
    Version 134.0.6998.178 (Official Build) (64-bit)
    Windows, of course.

    On it then :) I’ll just attach a whole ass button to the right side instead of what’s usually for checkboxes.

    Francisco

    Just because my eye picks up these things, some buttons on the left hand have hard right angle corners and some are rounded

    Add user form - password field:

    database information form:

    Another suggestion would be for the allowed IP’s, maybe have a drop down with the IPs associated with any current plans, with the “name - IP” displayed. If the user then select a plan hosted in a different location, maybe a soft warning indicating it’s recommended to have these at the same location. Small thing, but saves having to look it up.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Smigit said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Smigit said:
    super minor thing, but on the add users page, if you select ‘all’ for permissions the other checkboxes are disabled, but on my display anyway its incredibly subtle to the point that initially I didn’t even notice boxes had gone read only. Maybe the text should respond too to help with readability.

    Also if invalid characters are used on the username, some red message might be warranted next to the username field to say there’s invalid characters. I was also able to submit a username that was just a space, and had the following user created: “sql22006_”. Looks like it gets truncated down and only the standard prefix is used as the name

    Edit: Database name is the same. Can supply an empty string that gets truncated down, and I assume isn’t really the intention and that you want at least 1 alphanumeric.

    This has been fixed 🐀

    Francisco

    Yep, that’s working as expected

    @Francisco said:

    @JabJab said:

    @Francisco said: It copies for me without issue. What browser are you on? I’ll make it more obvious that it’s a button.

    Oh fuck me. I tested it more... it works, if you click on the icon, not the whole span/div around it. Icon good, grey area bad. Please fix :')
    Mouse over effect, maybe some blink/flash/label/toast that you copied that?

    Chrome is up to date
    Version 134.0.6998.178 (Official Build) (64-bit)
    Windows, of course.

    On it then :) I’ll just attach a whole ass button to the right side instead of what’s usually for checkboxes.

    Francisco

    Just because my eye picks up these things, some buttons on the left hand have hard right angle corners and some are rounded

    Add user form - password field:

    database information form:

    Another suggestion would be for the allowed IP’s, maybe have a drop down with the IPs associated with any current plans, with the “name - IP” displayed. If the user then select a plan hosted in a different location, maybe a soft warning indicating it’s recommended to have these at the same location. Small thing, but saves having to look it up.

    I've cured your OCD. I had to do manual style="" fixes since Lagom doesn't normally support input groups.

    Anyway, looks much better :)

    Francisco

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  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran

    @Francisco said:

    @Daniel15 said: It would be useful to offer either SSH tunneling or a VPN or something for this use case, as a rudimentary implementation of "two factor" auth (the first factor being the SSH or VPN private key, and the second factor being the password).

    I was thinking just SSL certificate authentication. VPN is interesting but it becomes a whole lot more to manage.

    Francisco

    That's a great idea! Definitely easier to set up.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Smigit said: Another suggestion would be for the allowed IP’s, maybe have a drop down with the IPs associated with any current plans, with the “name - IP” displayed. If the user then select a plan hosted in a different location, maybe a soft warning indicating it’s recommended to have these at the same location. Small thing, but saves having to look it up.

    How's this for you:

    Francisco

  • SmigitSmigit Member

    @Francisco said:

    @Smigit said: Another suggestion would be for the allowed IP’s, maybe have a drop down with the IPs associated with any current plans, with the “name - IP” displayed. If the user then select a plan hosted in a different location, maybe a soft warning indicating it’s recommended to have these at the same location. Small thing, but saves having to look it up.

    How's this for you:

    Francisco

    Looks great :)

  • vinhaisvinhais Member

    @off
    Can we dream of a Stallion someday, but with a webhost? I mean, Plesk/cPanel/DirectAdmin panels are a shit to use, Stallion's way of being simple, functional and straight to the point is charming

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @vinhais said:
    @off
    Can we dream of a Stallion someday, but with a webhost? I mean, Plesk/cPanel/DirectAdmin panels are a shit to use, Stallion's way of being simple, functional and straight to the point is charming

    I don't think so. People don't like change on the shared side of things. Look at how stubborn people are going from cPanel -> DA, and DA has 10+? years in the market.

    Francisco

  • ThundasThundas Member

    any chance it will come free with crates when its stable?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 31

    @Thundas said:
    any chance it will come free with crates when its stable?

    By default very unlikely. With that being said, we will be open to giving it for free on larger crates and longer payment terms on them. We aren’t against haggling.

    Francisco

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  • JasonMJasonM Member

    Ok, i signed up for beta at LV.
    Does anyone able to export/attach their WP SQL database to offloaded SQL?
    if im not wrong:
    I've create new DB in the panel,
    go to phpmyadmin,
    and import the WP db from shared-node.
    is that how you do?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @JasonM said:
    Ok, i signed up for beta at LV.
    Does anyone able to export/attach their WP SQL database to offloaded SQL?
    if im not wrong:
    I've create new DB in the panel,
    go to phpmyadmin,
    and import the WP db from shared-node.
    is that how you do?

    And update your wp-config.php.

    Francisco

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  • SmigitSmigit Member
    edited March 31

    So fwiw I have both a DA and CPanel LasVegas plan so decided to spin up a new Wordpress install on one (and already had a pretty much bare bones already on the other. If it’s interest, here’s how the Wordpress Benchmark Plugin compared the two.

    CPanel Plan with Offloaded SQL - https://report.wpbenchmark.io/pKH2tazVti/
    DA Plan with Standard SQL - https://report.wpbenchmark.io/Y3wHeUMnHH/

    DA Plan with Standard SQL here does pull away on the SQL. Haven’t really done any analysis why and whether what’s being tested for here should be heeded too much or not. For example, I’m not sure if the ‘large import’ is typically super relevant to a WP optimisation or not (I’d have thought in most case probably not?). They do publishe settings they recommend which maybe hints at what the benchmarks are lfavouring. https://wpbenchmark.io/improve-wordpress-speed/. Wacked those settings on another VPS I have running LAMP and saw the ‘large upload go form 0.9 to 8.23, so this particular test certainly likes some of the settings in that article.

    (being that these aren’t my live sites, I haven’t bothered to look at why the one regex test if failing, but if I had to guess its a php module I don’t have enabled.)

    Maybe it’s of interest, maybe it’s not. Again, important to look at context. Ancidotally both WP instances are performing fine, but they also are fresh installs with almost no plugins or content, so the blog itself isn’t an amazing benchmark.

    In terms of experience, already provided a few minor things (and you legends have already addressed them all!). Will say I found the email instructions concise but clear and it was pretty quick and painless to get everything set up. Been a good experience.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    I actually think I got a fix for the import thing, it’s basically a tunable. I’ll look through my my.cnf :) you can see complex is better on offload there.

    Thanks for the testing, I should go install that plugin so I can confirm my work.

    Francisco

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  • can't wait for postgresql, redis, and mongodb xD

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  • I'm definitely interested in trying out the service when postgresql support lands

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @TOMAS111 said:
    can't wait for postgresql, redis, and mongodb xD

    Redis is already there inside cpanel and DA. Mongo is u likely due to how authentication works.

    Francisco

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @vastness4594 said:
    I'm definitely interested in trying out the service when postgresql support lands

    I’m still researching how to safely create a user, grant access, and lock it down:m. It seems there’s a lot more to it than mysqls simpler grant system.

    Francisco

  • I have a question, my Mysql is expected to store a fair amount of logs and query them at times, is this usage scenario within your acceptance? The logs might be 100G-200G max.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @danblaze said: I have a question, my Mysql is expected to store a fair amount of logs and query them at times, is this usage scenario within your acceptance? The logs might be 100G-200G max.

    >

    If you're paying for 100 - 200G of storage, sure?

    The storage isn't unmetered or anything like that, you'd be paying $50 - $100/year most likely.

    Francisco

  • danblazedanblaze Member
    edited March 31

    @Francisco said:

    @danblaze said: I have a question, my Mysql is expected to store a fair amount of logs and query them at times, is this usage scenario within your acceptance? The logs might be 100G-200G max.

    >

    If you're paying for 100 - 200G of storage, sure?

    The storage isn't unmetered or anything like that, you'd be paying $50 - $100/year most likely.

    Francisco

    Absolutely, I'm very aware that it's something that's paid for. I love the concept of hosted databases, it gives me a break from the hassle of O&M to focus on my life. Although running a database with Docker is not complicated these days :)

    But I realize, wouldn't this project have to make sure that the programs used can be hosted on a crane? Don't get me wrong, I want the crane's semi-dedicated hosting, I'm just not sure it can run the programs I want so that everything is hosted and I'm able to get a good night's sleep late at night.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @danblaze said: But I realize, wouldn't this project have to make sure that the programs used can be hosted on a crane? Don't get me wrong, I want the crane's semi-dedicated hosting, I'm just not sure it can run the programs I want so that everything is hosted and I'm able to get a good night's sleep late at night.

    Given user demand/interest, we'll most likely make this available as a standalone product, just it might cost a bit more to cover bandwidth costs.

    We'd also put DB servers in Kansas to cover the mid-west if we did that.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @danblaze said: But I realize, wouldn't this project have to make sure that the programs used can be hosted on a crane? Don't get me wrong, I want the crane's semi-dedicated hosting, I'm just not sure it can run the programs I want so that everything is hosted and I'm able to get a good night's sleep late at night.

    Given user demand/interest, we'll most likely make this available as a standalone product, just it might cost a bit more to cover bandwidth costs.

    We'd also put DB servers in Kansas to cover the mid-west if we did that.

    Francisco

    Oh, this is gonna be good. I'll give it a try anyway. Absolutely love the concept, thanks for clearing that up. I'll even try semi-dedicated hosting as well to see what all I can do, I used to run my own programs on my VPS and that part is practically new to me.

    I must digress, if only you could host Docker containers, that would be the perfect combination.

  • mike1smike1s Member

    Wish it was in NY for testing! I get why LV tho.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @danblaze said: I must digress, if only you could host Docker containers, that would be the perfect combination.

    Not something we are really interested in doing. You can get a VPS with BuyVM for that, or check with Terabit, they have a docker product in BETA right now.

    Francisco

  • syihabxsyihabx Member
    edited April 1

    i have a suggestion, can you add ipv6 support? i have a small vps with ipv6 only and have been looking for a db that supports vps ipv6 for a long time, but never found one.
    maybe someone else has the same problem too.
    Thank you

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