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Going rate for a RIPE /24

jhjh Member

What's the going rate to purchase a RIPE /24?

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  • AndreixAndreix Member, Host Rep
    edited March 21

    ~ 40 USD /IP

  • ZinyZiny Member

    @jh said:
    What's the going rate to purchase a RIPE /24?

    you can look some forums offering this too, especially if you want to be specific about your use case

  • kaitkait Member

    @Andreix said:
    ~ 40 USD /IP

    Are you insane?

    Thanked by 2jsg o202
  • mwmw Member

    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    Thanked by 1ethanblake87
  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

  • mwmw Member

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    Thanked by 1hobofl
  • wadhahwadhah Member

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

  • mwmw Member

    @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

    some IP ranges are used for spam, malware, or are blacklisted for a range of other reasons. these are typically worth less than a clean range

    Thanked by 3hobofl wadhah host_c
  • @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

    Thanked by 1wadhah
  • LeviLevi Member

    @mw said:

    @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

    some IP ranges are used for spam, malware, or are blacklisted for a range of other reasons. these are typically worth less than a clean range

    Everything can be cleaned and polished. Price is the main factor.

    Thanked by 2tentor gremeyer
  • wadhahwadhah Member

    @mw said:

    @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

    some IP ranges are used for spam, malware, or are blacklisted for a range of other reasons. these are typically worth less than a clean range

    Isn't that easy-ish to report to the fraud people and say like "hey i bought this range can you delist it" ?

    Also if you are planning on blocking port 25 regardless, wouldnt it be better for you to buy a shitty range?

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  • mwmw Member

    @Levi said:

    @mw said:

    @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

    some IP ranges are used for spam, malware, or are blacklisted for a range of other reasons. these are typically worth less than a clean range

    Everything can be cleaned and polished. Price is the main factor.

    if your time is worth less than the cost to rehabilitate a range, sure. there's a market for everything

    for people that just want to get back to making money, paying a premium for a clean range just makes sense

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  • mwmw Member

    @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @wadhah said:

    @mw said:

    @Clouvider said:

    @mw said:
    35-40 EUR per IP after DD/audit/escrow unless you want bottom of the barrel ipv4.global auction junk

    What's the problem with ipv4.global?

    nothing wrong with them. they facilitate both junk ranges and decent ranges on their auctions. all i meant was you'll pay more for the latter, unless you want bottom of the barrel ranges for some reason

    What does bottom of the barrel ranges mean?

    some IP ranges are used for spam, malware, or are blacklisted for a range of other reasons. these are typically worth less than a clean range

    Isn't that easy-ish to report to the fraud people and say like "hey i bought this range can you delist it" ?

    depends on how dirty the reputation is tbh

    Also if you are planning on blocking port 25 regardless, wouldnt it be better for you to buy a shitty range?

    think broader than just email

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR
    edited March 21

    @Levi said:

    Everything can be cleaned and polished. Price is the main factor.

    Hi,

    there are several entities who will not easily agree to risk receiving trash ( again ) from the same range, because the range has a new owner.

    And also, even IF "everything" could be cleaned, this takes time and effort. Usually that means nothing else but loosing money ( as you can not use the range fully right away, and as you have to invest your own time ( that you cant spend with other tasks )) and this way basically increasing the price of the range.

    So spending some more money for the single IP might be better for less hassle with the IPs to get them into action. -- Depending how much you value your own time.

    Thanked by 1mw
  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    The ranges are shown before purchase, do you own research, we've had plenty of luck buying clean ranges at those prices.

    Thanked by 2kait jsg
  • mwmw Member

    @MrRadic said:
    The ranges are shown before purchase, do you own research, we've had plenty of luck buying clean ranges at those prices.

    everyone that does their research avoids the bad ranges and bids on the good ones driving the prices up. nobody is arguing against that. all im saying is a few bucks more per IP and you save a shit load of headache. €35 - €40 isnt much more than you'll pay for a range on a few lists because the price floor of even the worst ranges is still high

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @mw said:
    depends on how dirty the reputation is tbh

    Pick your dirty combination.

    @cociu range: in every DMCA list, spam list, brute force list, Europol list.
    @Calin range: in every DMCA list, spam list, brute force list.
    @Francisco range: in every DMCA list, Tor exit list.
    @MannDude range: in every Tor exit list.
    @ColoCrossing range: in every spam list.
    @OVHcloud range: in every brute force list.

    Thanked by 3Void host_c mrTom
  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 21

    @yoursunny said:

    @mw said:
    depends on how dirty the reputation is tbh

    Pick your dirty combination.

    @cociu range: in every DMCA list, spam list, brute force list, Europol list.
    @Calin range: in every DMCA list, spam list, brute force list.
    @Francisco range: in every DMCA list, Tor exit list.
    @MannDude range: in every Tor exit list.
    @ColoCrossing range: in every spam list.
    @OVHcloud range: in every brute force list.

    Tor is fine. Just enforce a strict exit policy to prevent abuse. We'll be blocking common abuse ports via the firewall for any IP of ours that appears to be a Tor Exit soon anyway, so compliance with the exit policy won't be optional.

  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    @mw said:

    @MrRadic said:
    The ranges are shown before purchase, do you own research, we've had plenty of luck buying clean ranges at those prices.

    everyone that does their research avoids the bad ranges and bids on the good ones driving the prices up. nobody is arguing against that. all im saying is a few bucks more per IP and you save a shit load of headache. €35 - €40 isnt much more than you'll pay for a range on a few lists because the price floor of even the worst ranges is still high

    There are many assumptions made here that I can tell you from lots of experience aren't true.

  • jhjh Member
    edited March 22

    Most of the block was never used. About a /26 was used for a few MSP clients who never caused any trouble. They didnt even have root access to their own servers. It's not on any spam lists and the servers never had any security issues or conplaints of any kind.

    I want to know what a fair price is for an easy sale, not waiting weeks for an auction where the buyer may or may not follow through, after which there are loads of fees.

  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited March 22

    To purchase: approximately 10,000 USD converted into your local currency.

    To rent: approximately 150 USD per month. For longer periods you should be able to negotiate a discount between five and fifteen percent.

  • kaitkait Member

    @jh said:
    Most of the block was never used. About a /26 was used for a few MSP clients who never caused any trouble. They didnt even have root access to their own servers. It's not on any spam lists and the servers never had any security issues or conplaints of any kind.

    I want to know what a fair price is for an easy sale, not waiting weeks for an auction where the buyer may or may not follow through, after which there are loads of fees.

    If you want to sell it "fast" $32-34/IP if you want to sell it now $26/IP :joy:

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  • jhjh Member

    @kait said:

    @jh said:
    Most of the block was never used. About a /26 was used for a few MSP clients who never caused any trouble. They didnt even have root access to their own servers. It's not on any spam lists and the servers never had any security issues or conplaints of any kind.

    I want to know what a fair price is for an easy sale, not waiting weeks for an auction where the buyer may or may not follow through, after which there are loads of fees.

    If you want to sell it "fast" $32-34/IP if you want to sell it now $26/IP :joy:

    Not looking for the pawn shop experience LOL, just low stress.

  • DevsomDevsom Member
    edited March 22

    @MrRadic said:

    @mw said:

    @MrRadic said:
    The ranges are shown before purchase, do you own research, we've had plenty of luck buying clean ranges at those prices.

    everyone that does their research avoids the bad ranges and bids on the good ones driving the prices up. nobody is arguing against that. all im saying is a few bucks more per IP and you save a shit load of headache. €35 - €40 isnt much more than you'll pay for a range on a few lists because the price floor of even the worst ranges is still high

    There are many assumptions made here that I can tell you from lots of experience aren't true.

    Strange thing is that I never find any blacklisted subnet on the auction. I have bought and sold many sunmbnets there. They (ipv4.global) always check that IP subnets are clean before approving the Listing.

  • kaitkait Member

    @Devsom said:

    @MrRadic said:

    @mw said:

    @MrRadic said:
    The ranges are shown before purchase, do you own research, we've had plenty of luck buying clean ranges at those prices.

    everyone that does their research avoids the bad ranges and bids on the good ones driving the prices up. nobody is arguing against that. all im saying is a few bucks more per IP and you save a shit load of headache. €35 - €40 isnt much more than you'll pay for a range on a few lists because the price floor of even the worst ranges is still high

    There are many assumptions made here that I can tell you from lots of experience aren't true.

    Strange thing is that I never find any blacklisted subnet on the auction. I have bought and sold many sunmbnets there. They (ipv4.global) always check that IP subnets are clean before approving the Listing.

    mw is just japping bullshit.

  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    Looks like recent sales went as low as $24/IP

  • kaitkait Member

    @MrRadic said:
    Looks like recent sales went as low as $24/IP

    Yeah, I will probably buy a range at that price as well, you just have to know where to look.

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @MrRadic said:
    Looks like recent sales went as low as $24/IP

    Hi,

    where? =)

  • MrRadicMrRadic Host Rep, Veteran

    IPv4.global

    @layer7 said:

    @MrRadic said:
    Looks like recent sales went as low as $24/IP

    Hi,

    where? =)

  • layer7layer7 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    @MrRadic said:
    IPv4.global

    @layer7 said:

    @MrRadic said:
    Looks like recent sales went as low as $24/IP

    Hi,

    where? =)

    Hi,

    i dont see there a single one < 30 USD... but maybe they are all out now.

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