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In looking for cloud storage that has decent linux and android apps

Helo,

In the age of AI disruption and company that scrap your data to feed the intelligent....enough rant for now

As i've been self-hosted my storage for few years and i feel burnt out of maintaining the instances recently

Now i'm using Syncthing to sync my data from my PC, Phone etc. to remote server

What i'm looking for is a cloud storage solutions that has decents Linux and Android app. With realtime syncing feature would be a plus

or if there's tools that can make real-time syncing to cloud storage possible, please recommend me too!

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  • NetDynamics24NetDynamics24 Member, Host Rep

    Nextcloud? Seafile?

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  • olokeoloke Member

    @Blembim said:
    Helo,

    In the age of AI disruption and company that scrap your data to feed the intelligent....enough rant for now

    As i've been self-hosted my storage for few years and i feel burnt out of maintaining the instances recently

    Now i'm using Syncthing to sync my data from my PC, Phone etc. to remote server

    What i'm looking for is a cloud storage solutions that has decents Linux and Android app. With realtime syncing feature would be a plus

    or if there's tools that can make real-time syncing to cloud storage possible, please recommend me too!

    what's wrong with your current syncthing approach?
    I don't think there's anything better for data synchronization.

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  • BlembimBlembim Member
    edited March 16

    @oloke said:

    what's wrong with your current syncthing approach?
    I don't think there's anything better for data synchronization.

    Nothing wrong with Syncthing, what wrong is me. I just felt like it doesn't worth my time maintaining anymore or smth like that. I just burnt out maybe

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  • BlembimBlembim Member
    edited March 16

    @NetDynamics24 said:
    Nextcloud? Seafile?

    NextCloud and Seafile is the top tier for self-hosted cloud storage but not this time sadly, or maybe i should've looking into some hosted instances instead. Thanks for suggestion anyways!

  • TrKTrK Member

    Storage share plans from hetzner? Powered with nextcloud and daily offsite backups...

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  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @TrK said:
    Storage share plans from hetzner? Powered with nextcloud and daily offsite backups...

    I'm looking into this too

    I also do wonder if you know about their reliability, speed something like that? I know its hetzner gotta be good but just wonder

  • TrKTrK Member

    @Blembim said:

    @TrK said:
    Storage share plans from hetzner? Powered with nextcloud and daily offsite backups...

    I'm looking into this too

    I also do wonder if you know about their reliability, speed something like that? I know its hetzner gotta be good but just wonder

    Both reliability and speed is top notch, and far better than their storage boxes. It's hetzner what else do you expect?

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  • @Blembim said:
    What i'm looking for is a cloud storage solutions that has decents Linux and Android app. With realtime syncing feature would be a plus

    Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    Now i'm using Syncthing to sync my data from my PC, Phone etc. to remote server

    You can also use Rclone with Mega.

    However I've been using them much, much less during the last 2+ years, as nothing beats your own storage VPS in terms of convenience (just plain SFTP).

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  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Blembim said:
    What i'm looking for is a cloud storage solutions that has decents Linux and Android app. With realtime syncing feature would be a plus

    Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    Now i'm using Syncthing to sync my data from my PC, Phone etc. to remote server

    You can also use Rclone with Mega.

    However I've been using them much, much less during the last 2+ years, as nothing beats your own storage VPS in terms of convenience (just plain SFTP).

    Thanks for recommendation! I wish i could just do SFTP but it's not easy to do it on mobile for sure.

    I see that they also had linux UI, i'll give them a try too!

  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @TrK said:

    @Blembim said:

    @TrK said:
    Storage share plans from hetzner? Powered with nextcloud and daily offsite backups...

    I'm looking into this too

    I also do wonder if you know about their reliability, speed something like that? I know its hetzner gotta be good but just wonder

    Both reliability and speed is top notch, and far better than their storage boxes. It's hetzner what else do you expect?

    Thanks for review! I'm currently trying them right now, hope everything goes well :D

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  • I'm using Infomaniak's myksuite+, so far works good to me. 1TB storage costs ~ 16 euro per year without tax.

    https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/myksuite

    They do have client software on Linux and phones.

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  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm using Infomaniak's myksuite+, so far works good to me. 1TB storage costs ~ 16 euro per year without tax.

    https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/myksuite

    They do have client software on Linux and phones.

    Thanks! Btw I wonder how's the speed and reliability to you tho?

  • lq9xlq9x Member

    @DataRecovery said: Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    It is owned by a Chinese company iirc.

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  • @Blembim said:

    @dedipromo said:
    I'm using Infomaniak's myksuite+, so far works good to me. 1TB storage costs ~ 16 euro per year without tax.

    https://www.infomaniak.com/en/ksuite/myksuite

    They do have client software on Linux and phones.

    Thanks! Btw I wonder how's the speed and reliability to you tho?

    Speed is meh for me as I'm in the US and the servers are somewhere in the europe. You can try their free plan and see if the speed is OK in your area. Reliability wise seems OK, after all they've been in the business for many years.

    One limitation is they don't allow syncing of single files having sizes greater than 50 GB, and have a total file count limit of 300,000 besides the total storage limit.

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  • wadhahwadhah Member

    @lq9x said:

    @DataRecovery said: Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    It is owned by a Chinese company iirc.

    Yes it is~. it is 99.83% owned by a Honk Kong company called "Cloud Tech Services Limited"

    https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/4136598/detail

    with that being said, their e2e encryption seems top notch, up to you to decide if that beats a chinese company owning it

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  • lq9xlq9x Member

    @wadhah said:

    @lq9x said:

    @DataRecovery said: Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    It is owned by a Chinese company iirc.

    Yes it is~. it is 99.83% owned by a Honk Kong company called "Cloud Tech Services Limited"

    https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/4136598/detail

    with that being said, their e2e encryption seems top notch, up to you to decide if that beats a chinese company owning it

    Are you sure no backdoor?

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  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @lq9x said:

    @wadhah said:

    @lq9x said:

    @DataRecovery said: Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    It is owned by a Chinese company iirc.

    Yes it is~. it is 99.83% owned by a Honk Kong company called "Cloud Tech Services Limited"

    https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/4136598/detail

    with that being said, their e2e encryption seems top notch, up to you to decide if that beats a chinese company owning it

    Are you sure no backdoor?

    For Fairness of both side, I'd assume every cloud storage has backdoor, with that being so if i encrypt my data at rest, would Mega be a decent solutions?

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  • edipedip Member

    I currently have lifetime Koofr (1TB), Filen (240GB) and Internxt (5TB).
    Each of them has Android and Linux apps. Filen and Internxt are e2e encrypted and Koofr has a e2e encrypted "Vault'.
    I don't have any experience with their Linux apps but Android wise Koofr and Filen are very good, Internxt is garbage.
    Koofr's rclone support is top notch. Filen and Internxt have a cli webdav implementation which Filen is superior.
    Speed wise Koofr = Filen >> Internxt.
    Price wise, I bought Koofr and Internxt through StackSocial and Filen on their own websites. By $/tb Internxt is the cheapest but if I take quality into consideration Koofr is the cheapest.

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  • e2bs2k1e2bs2k1 Member

    I just use nextcloud webdav with a feature-rich file manager on android. And rclone for sync files.

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  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @edip said:
    I currently have lifetime Koofr (1TB), Filen (240GB) and Internxt (5TB).
    Each of them has Android and Linux apps. Filen and Internxt are e2e encrypted and Koofr has a e2e encrypted "Vault'.
    I don't have any experience with their Linux apps but Android wise Koofr and Filen are very good, Internxt is garbage.
    Koofr's rclone support is top notch. Filen and Internxt have a cli webdav implementation which Filen is superior.
    Speed wise Koofr = Filen >> Internxt.
    Price wise, I bought Koofr and Internxt through StackSocial and Filen on their own websites. By $/tb Internxt is the cheapest but if I take quality into consideration Koofr is the cheapest.

    how's your experience on speed on all of them tho? reliability also?

  • edipedip Member

    @Blembim said:

    @edip said:
    I currently have lifetime Koofr (1TB), Filen (240GB) and Internxt (5TB).
    Each of them has Android and Linux apps. Filen and Internxt are e2e encrypted and Koofr has a e2e encrypted "Vault'.
    I don't have any experience with their Linux apps but Android wise Koofr and Filen are very good, Internxt is garbage.
    Koofr's rclone support is top notch. Filen and Internxt have a cli webdav implementation which Filen is superior.
    Speed wise Koofr = Filen >> Internxt.
    Price wise, I bought Koofr and Internxt through StackSocial and Filen on their own websites. By $/tb Internxt is the cheapest but if I take quality into consideration Koofr is the cheapest.

    how's your experience on speed on all of them tho? reliability also?

    I'm using 500mbps/50mbps line.
    I just tested all of them;
    200MB fileall through their Web App

    Filen: Upload ~4MB/s - Download ~25MB/s
    Koofr: Upload ~2.5MB/s - Download ~30MB/s
    Internxt: Upload ~3.5MB/s (Failed 2 times) - Download ~20MB/s

    I think Filen and Koofr are most reliable ones.

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  • @Blembim said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @Blembim said:
    What i'm looking for is a cloud storage solutions that has decents Linux and Android app. With realtime syncing feature would be a plus

    Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    Now i'm using Syncthing to sync my data from my PC, Phone etc. to remote server

    You can also use Rclone with Mega.

    However I've been using them much, much less during the last 2+ years, as nothing beats your own storage VPS in terms of convenience (just plain SFTP).

    Thanks for recommendation! I wish i could just do SFTP but it's not easy to do it on mobile for sure.

    Quite doable on Android, can't tell about iphone though.

    @lq9x said:

    @DataRecovery said: Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    It is owned by a Chinese company iirc.

    @wadhah said:
    Yes it is~. it is 99.83% owned by a Honk Kong company called "Cloud Tech Services Limited"

    Keep in mind that Mega was founded by Kim Dotcom (ex-Megaupload). So I don't think he had a lot of purchase offers from "proper" countries.

    Also I believe I'm of very little interest to Chinese government.
    I'm far more concerned with services like Gmail and Whatsapp and their owners. Also new Windows versions.

    This may change after some really massive AI deployments (capable to analyze nearly everything), but LET is here to help you with the required anti-bigtech preparations.

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  • wadhahwadhah Member

    @lq9x said:

    @wadhah said:

    @lq9x said:

    @DataRecovery said: Among "cloud" providers Mega is (at least one of) the best IMO: https://mega.nz/

    It is owned by a Chinese company iirc.

    Yes it is~. it is 99.83% owned by a Honk Kong company called "Cloud Tech Services Limited"

    https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/4136598/detail

    with that being said, their e2e encryption seems top notch, up to you to decide if that beats a chinese company owning it

    Are you sure no backdoor?

    no, i'm not technical enough to be sure. What i heard from friends/backchannels is that the encryption looks good, but i sure as fuck stopped using them a long time ago

  • wadhahwadhah Member
    edited March 16

    @DataRecovery said: Also I believe I'm of very little interest to Chinese government.

    No you aren't, have you heard of "Store now, Decrypt later"? it's the idea that big companies (mainly the us and china, facebook, google, and microsoft) have adopted that just says to store literally every single bit they can and decrypt it later when sufficient technological advancement happens.

    It's super cheap to implement (for their size) and very beneficial in the long term.

    @DataRecovery said: I'm far more concerned with services like Gmail and Whatsapp and their owners. Also new Windows versions.

    You should be worried about those!

    Whatapp's encryption is compromised: https://theintercept.com/2024/05/22/whatsapp-security-vulnerability-meta-israel-palestine/ (this is one of many many many vulnerabilities in whatsapp/insta/fbmessenger)

    Gmail is of course one of the easiest things accessible to governments and bad actors.

    Microsoft is plain evil :D

  • @wadhah said:

    @DataRecovery said: Also I believe I'm of very little interest to Chinese government.

    No you aren't, have you heard of "Store now, Decrypt later"? it's the idea that big companies (mainly the us and china, facebook, google, and microsoft) have adopted that just says to store literally every single bit they can and decrypt it later when sufficient technological advancement happens.

    It's super cheap to implement (for their size) and very beneficial in the long term.

    @DataRecovery said: I'm far more concerned with services like Gmail and Whatsapp and their owners. Also new Windows versions.

    You should be worried about those!

    Whatapp's encryption is compromised: https://theintercept.com/2024/05/22/whatsapp-security-vulnerability-meta-israel-palestine/ (this is one of many many many vulnerabilities in whatsapp/insta/fbmessenger)

    That article was paywalled, but the part that wasn't talked about how meta data was being used, not that encryption was compromised. Can you quote the relevant parts of the article if you have access?

  • BlembimBlembim Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @wadhah said:

    @DataRecovery said: Also I believe I'm of very little interest to Chinese government.

    No you aren't, have you heard of "Store now, Decrypt later"? it's the idea that big companies (mainly the us and china, facebook, google, and microsoft) have adopted that just says to store literally every single bit they can and decrypt it later when sufficient technological advancement happens.

    It's super cheap to implement (for their size) and very beneficial in the long term.

    @DataRecovery said: I'm far more concerned with services like Gmail and Whatsapp and their owners. Also new Windows versions.

    You should be worried about those!

    Whatapp's encryption is compromised: https://theintercept.com/2024/05/22/whatsapp-security-vulnerability-meta-israel-palestine/ (this is one of many many many vulnerabilities in whatsapp/insta/fbmessenger)

    That article was paywalled, but the part that wasn't talked about how meta data was being used, not that encryption was compromised. Can you quote the relevant parts of the article if you have access?

    Here's thr full article https://archive.is/o1ld8

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  • @Blembim said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @wadhah said:

    @DataRecovery said: Also I believe I'm of very little interest to Chinese government.

    No you aren't, have you heard of "Store now, Decrypt later"? it's the idea that big companies (mainly the us and china, facebook, google, and microsoft) have adopted that just says to store literally every single bit they can and decrypt it later when sufficient technological advancement happens.

    It's super cheap to implement (for their size) and very beneficial in the long term.

    @DataRecovery said: I'm far more concerned with services like Gmail and Whatsapp and their owners. Also new Windows versions.

    You should be worried about those!

    Whatapp's encryption is compromised: https://theintercept.com/2024/05/22/whatsapp-security-vulnerability-meta-israel-palestine/ (this is one of many many many vulnerabilities in whatsapp/insta/fbmessenger)

    That article was paywalled, but the part that wasn't talked about how meta data was being used, not that encryption was compromised. Can you quote the relevant parts of the article if you have access?

    Here's thr full article https://archive.is/o1ld8

    As I suspected, "Whatapp's encryption is compromised" is incorrect. This is nothing new or surprising.

    They can tell Bob and Alice are talking, but not what is said. If. Government is watching someone, they're already monitoring their traffic to see who they are talking to. This is all widely known and highlighted during Snowden years.

    The goal of all these companies is to protect the contents of the messages, not the identity of sending and receiving recipients. Those platforms would have all the agencies up their asses if they did.

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