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Anycast IP-As-A-Service

Looking to build a global DNS cluster for a web hosting provider using Anycast. Not big enough to justify the expense of a /24 or two as it's a niche provider, but they also don't want to outsource DNS for various reasons. Plus integrating external DNS providers with WHM / cPanel is a pain in the proverbial.

Rage4 offer a single Anycast IP at €10 per month, and their platform makes it easy to build out a cluster. Looking for a second provider for redundancy and coming up blank. Unfortunately BuyVM don't have the necessary POPs for the global latency that is desired.

Is Rage4 really the only provider that offers Anycast IP-As-A-Service without breaking the bank? I'm coming up empty and would greatly appreciate any leads.

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Speedie said: Is Rage4 really the only provider that offers Anycast IP-As-A-Service without breaking the bank? I'm coming up empty and would greatly appreciate any leads.

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    That's about it.

    Obviously the other option is renting an IP block ($100/m) and then buying VM's.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco said:

    That's about it.

    Obviously the other option is renting an IP block ($100/m) and then buying VM's.

    Francisco

    Well that's unfortunate, but I appreciate the response. Thank-you.

  • LeviLevi Member

    Yep, once I was on a hunt to alternative to buyvm. There is none. A void in a market. Long time, no one fills it up.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Levi said: Yep, once I was on a hunt to alternative to buyvm. There is none. A void in a market. Long time, no one fills it up.

    It's a very niche market and you blow an IP block on it :)

    You then run into the issue where as you add more locations you either need to force everyone to buy more, or you need to do internal routing to route missing users to somewhere else.

    We do that with Miami where users have to do BGP with us to get anycast to work, otherwise it goes to NY.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco said: It's a very niche market

    Do I have to buy Miami as well?

    Also, do IPs get announced on your AS or can it be announced on mine?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @jahrinc said: Do I have to buy Miami as well?

    Also, do IPs get announced on your AS or can it be announced on mine?

    No, Miami is optional.

    No, since it's a single IP it has to be off our ASN. You're welcome to rent a /24 and do BGP in all of our locations if that's of interest :)

    Francisco

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @Francisco said:

    @Levi said: Yep, once I was on a hunt to alternative to buyvm. There is none. A void in a market. Long time, no one fills it up.

    It's a very niche market and you blow an IP block on it :)

    You then run into the issue where as you add more locations you either need to force everyone to buy more, or you need to do internal routing to route missing users to somewhere else.

    We do that with Miami where users have to do BGP with us to get anycast to work, otherwise it goes to NY.

    Francisco

    At 14/month, 3x 1G plan that's a nice feat. Forgot you offered it...

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Levi said: Yep, once I was on a hunt to alternative to buyvm. There is none. A void in a market. Long time, no one fills it up.

    It's a very niche market and you blow an IP block on it :)

    You then run into the issue where as you add more locations you either need to force everyone to buy more, or you need to do internal routing to route missing users to somewhere else.

    We do that with Miami where users have to do BGP with us to get anycast to work, otherwise it goes to NY.

    Francisco

    At 14/month, 3x 1G plan that's a nice feat. Forgot you offered it...

    For 4 in that case. 3x would be $10.50/month.

    Francisco

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @Francisco said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Levi said: Yep, once I was on a hunt to alternative to buyvm. There is none. A void in a market. Long time, no one fills it up.

    It's a very niche market and you blow an IP block on it :)

    You then run into the issue where as you add more locations you either need to force everyone to buy more, or you need to do internal routing to route missing users to somewhere else.

    We do that with Miami where users have to do BGP with us to get anycast to work, otherwise it goes to NY.

    Francisco

    At 14/month, 3x 1G plan that's a nice feat. Forgot you offered it...

    For 4 in that case. 3x would be $10.50/month.

    Francisco

    You're absolutely right! Ridiculously cheap when you think about it.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad
    edited January 6

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @Francisco said:

    @Levi said: Yep, once I was on a hunt to alternative to buyvm. There is none. A void in a market. Long time, no one fills it up.

    It's a very niche market and you blow an IP block on it :)

    You then run into the issue where as you add more locations you either need to force everyone to buy more, or you need to do internal routing to route missing users to somewhere else.

    We do that with Miami where users have to do BGP with us to get anycast to work, otherwise it goes to NY.

    Francisco

    At 14/month, 3x 1G plan that's a nice feat. Forgot you offered it...

    For 4 in that case. 3x would be $10.50/month.

    Francisco

    You're absolutely right! Ridiculously cheap when you think about it.

    All locations available atm?

  • grooveusergrooveuser Member
    edited January 7

    It's soooo cheeep! I almost need to buynow!

    I went down this rabbithole a several years ago for a customer, and back then buyvm was the only real lowend option I found. (not sure if rage4 was doing anycast yet...)

    IIRC, a number of the NOT_LOWEND providers offer anycast, and a number of them wrap it in obtuse marketspeak to jack up prices. (global IP, Edge-something, etc)
    Even packet.net, that had some cheap options at the time, and free bgp, was charging by the hour for their 'global IP' addresses. By the address even! (.10/hr per IP, or somesuch, which is NOT cheap!)

    Going down the AS/PI space route and allying with one of the well-connected low-end providers with awesome IX presence was the ultimate solution then.
    IIRC we used ifog.ch at the time. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them again, but it's strictly a BYO{AS,IP} game. It is cheap, tho!

    But a lot has changed in those several years...

  • quicksilver03quicksilver03 Member, Host Rep

    I went through a similar research, though my own DNS service is on a much smaller scale. You may want to investigate X4B Anycast IPs https://www.x4b.net/protection/prices with GRE tunnels https://www.x4b.net/kb/DashboardPages/Tunnels , or https://fly.io where they transmute a container into a lightweight VM and offer Anycast IPs, but their reliability leaves a lot to be desired.

    I haven't made my final decision, but given the scale I'm operating at I'll probably stay on unicast IPv4 and I'll setup IPv6-only anycast.

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