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IONOS LowEnd is unbeatable
They currently have two lowend packages that imho are currently unbeatable by any provider:
- VPS XS: 1C / 1G / 10G NVME - 1-2 euros p/m
- VPS: 2C / 2G / 80G NVME - around 4 euros p/m
IP4 and IP6 included with unmetered on 1gbit.
Sure, you can benchmark yabs and what not but your VPS will boil down to two metrics in addition that I think are far more important:
- Uptime/Reliability
- Network performance
They run their own DC in US, UK and DE - at least US and UK are connected at local IX giving them greater control over their upstreams and also potentially having good peering deals.
To me this will remain first option at that tier.
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their bullshit KYC is a no no for me.
true, I guess many other do that as well: contabo, OVH, etc.
Agreed, they do not cover all use cases/scenarios for sure.
Neither Contabo nor OVH, or even Hetzner has ever asked me for any KYC...
Hetzner has asked me, so I decided to stay from them. But OVH never asked me!! I think it really depends on who triggers their automated spam detection system.
OVH US needs ID verification
IONOS
To activate a contract you need to call
To cancel the contract, you also need to make a phone call
It's too much of a hassle when you don't speak the language.
ionos never asked any kyc. depends of your country i guess
Ionos didn't ask me for KYC but guess what Hetzner did....
There is no real kyc at ionos. If you got one - bad luck, you are from rf country or trying to avoid vat.
Now, on a performance side: very very basic application can be hosted. Such as dns server. Network is stable.
Non-existant support. You can contact them only by phone which puts you on endless “please wait” line.
They are not for production, just a toy.
Can confirm out of ALL the providers I have tried Ionos was by far the worst.
Gotta do everything by phone. They lock your account over anything and are quite frankly borderline pathetic (their support is anyway) but on paper, yes, the deals look great.
Put it this way, I’d rather put a project on a Virmach server than an Ionos server.
I was able to do all that online, without calling.
Nothing beats the fking arm deal from netcup. Just that it's God awful arm and it's architectural compatibility issues otherwise it's crazy good combined with doubling ssd during their advent calendar giveaway.
avoid IONOS at all cost.
they have a contract and next year will charge you $xx for vps and you can't even cancel contract easily.
Nope. You may cancel contract 1 month prior to ending period. Easy and fast.
I don’t think it is. I’m trying to cancel fast hosts (mistake I made about a year ago) but I have to wait until the last month (next month) and then call up. I can’t do it online, apparently.
Not easy and fast at all as I’ve had to set a reminder on my calendar and I don’t usually have to do that anywhere else and I’m fairly sure they are identical companies.
If I somehow forget to cancel, then that’s it, I’m locked in for another year… I don’t see any reason why I can’t cancel now and continue paying other than to make it more difficult for customers to leave…
So mostly people are complaining about on/offboarding.
But other than that: any bad experience with service or support?
Duh, my 1€ VPS cost me 0.50€/m, unbeatable true.
I got all of their locations, solid for me.
wait until they send debt collectors ... and their headache cancellation policy
Yes you sign a 1 year contract with them, you have to pay them every month, on time their 1€ otherwise they are starting to charge you fees.
I had this once, they told me to SEPA in the money, then the fees are gone, problem solved.
Kyc is now requested by so many providers in some or other way. To keep abusers and bad actors out companies are kind of forced to do kyc imo.
nah not really. Working with +100 different providers and no one has asked for KYC.
It depends, where you register from, for me, basically nobdy ask for KYC.
If someone ask for KYC, its for a wired reason and I deny it most of the time.
But if you are unlucky, to live in a region, that is for some reasons, marked as higher risk, you be probably asked by any ISP to do KYC.
KYC is evil.
Exactly and if you are from that region and you want to use their service do the KYC or cope lol 😆
On the other hand, you have not worked with the other 100+ providers who do request KYC in some form, so to each their own. As long as you want to use a provider's services, you must follow their compliance requirements, or use another provider. Calling KYC "bad" (maybe for you) is subjective, but it helps companies avoid constant headaches dealing with bad actors and abusers.
That is also a reason why companies that require KYC have competitive pricing, better (stable/reliable) infrastructure overall, as there are almost no bad actors or abusers. It's a win-win for KYC customers.
I'm sure you removed Contabo from your list for this statement right?
AWS/GCP/Oracle Cloud also don't require KYC
Never received a single abuse report in my life, and I'm still not going to go through KYC with any provider. I don't want my ID to end up in some shady marketplace.
You kyc your self pretty decently when paying via credit card or sepa. Paypal also dox you pretty hard. Unless you pay with btc for all your providers - no kyc required.
Exactly people think they are invincible and untraceable.
Sure, you are not a bad actor / abuser you won't get reported but if you are you will be handled accordingly. Gcp / oracle cloud does require kyc in many regions.
It's not about being untraceable, it's about sending a full photo of my passport to random companies. I don't think Paypal would send that to anyone you pay.