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Any recommendations for a good mail server system?

I'm looking for a system that can be easily deployed, backed up, and supports SMTP sending and receiving for use as a web service.

I need a lightweight one.

Can anyone who has used one recommend one to me?

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  • Do you look for hosted or self host? Either mxroute or postfix.

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  • @Levi said:
    Do you look for hosted or self host? Either mxroute or postfix.

    Put it on my own server and use it.

  • Pay for mxroute or google apps.

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  • @tdy0923 said:

    @Levi said:
    Do you look for hosted or self host? Either mxroute or postfix.

    Put it on my own server and use it.

    If you want it to host personal email, I'd still go with MXRoute and save a lot of hassle, their Black Friday deals are still live.

    If you plan on hosting mail for others, you kind of need to use a software package you already know and can debug, sending is particularly problematic in modern times and will absorb a lot of your time. However Postfix/Dovecot is the most common and flexible combo IMHO if you must go that route.

    Merry Christmas :)

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  • @cochon said:

    @tdy0923 said:

    @Levi said:
    Do you look for hosted or self host? Either mxroute or postfix.

    Put it on my own server and use it.

    If you want it to host personal email, I'd still go with MXRoute and save a lot of hassle, their Black Friday deals are still live.

    If you plan on hosting mail for others, you kind of need to use a software package you already know and can debug, sending is particularly problematic in modern times and will absorb a lot of your time. However Postfix/Dovecot is the most common and flexible combo IMHO if you must go that route.

    Merry Christmas :)

    Thanks for the advice and Merry Christmas!

  • Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

  • Zoho is free. Been using their free service for 10 years and running.

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  • For self hosting Stalw.art is the way to go

  • @Xytronix said:
    For self hosting Stalw.art is the way to go

    looks good. mxroute blocks some emails so i am looking towards different email provider.

  • @itachikonoha said:
    Zoho is free. Been using their free service for 10 years and running.

    Still have an old Zoho account like you, similar vintage. However new signups have more restrictions these days, most relevant here, lack of POP/IMAP access on the free tier.

  • @itachikonoha said:
    Zoho is free. Been using their free service for 10 years and running.

    Same here! I’ve been using Zoho Mail on my WordPress sites for email delivery, and it’s been working great. Reliable and free—can’t complain!

  • @Xytronix said:
    For self hosting Stalw.art is the way to go

    This.

  • jndjnd Member
    edited December 2024

    Mox is a modern mailserver with easy setup. You get one executable, it will tell you what DNS records to update, it has basic webmail functionality too, as well as taking care of certificates. It supports all the modern features from DKIM to DANE, Unicode mailboxes on IDN domains.

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  • @cochon said:

    @itachikonoha said:
    Zoho is free. Been using their free service for 10 years and running.

    Still have an old Zoho account like you, similar vintage. However new signups have more restrictions these days, most relevant here, lack of POP/IMAP access on the free tier.

    Since when? I signed up about 3 months ago and i can access with pop and imap

  • Zoho blows ass. If you ever have any issues (which you will) dealing with support is horrendous. Self-hosting is more effort than it's worth. Just snag an account at MXRoute and call it a day. Best money you'll spend all year.

  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad

    @jschroeder said:
    Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

    Until you end up an open relay. So only go this route if you know what you're doing. And also be ready to handle blacklist removal, and setting up proper email authentication parameters like SPF, DKIM, rDNS, DMARC, etc.

    If you don't want all that hassle, better just go with an established email relay provider.

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  • JohnFilch123JohnFilch123 Member
    edited December 2024

    Mailcow is nice but it requires some RAM like 4-5-6GB, if you want all the features.

  • @Xytronix said:
    For self hosting Stalw.art is the way to go

    This is the way. The currently released web admin UI. Looks good for a modern mail server.

    https://stalw.art/blog/stalwart-webadmin/

  • Mail-in-a-box, very basic but do the works

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  • @Petey_Long said:
    Zoho blows ass. If you ever have any issues (which you will) dealing with support is horrendous. Self-hosting is more effort than it's worth. Just snag an account at MXRoute and call it a day. Best money you'll spend all year.

    Issues like?

  • I'm also going to add in namecrane

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  • On LET I suguess NameCrane and MXRoute. Or self host email server.

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  • @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:
    Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

    Until you end up an open relay. So only go this route if you know what you're doing. And also be ready to handle blacklist removal, and setting up proper email authentication parameters like SPF, DKIM, rDNS, DMARC, etc.

    If you don't want all that hassle, better just go with an established email relay provider.

    I've set up all of them, and to ensure the IP reputation is good, I'm actually running them on my own ASN and IP block.

  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad

    @jschroeder said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:
    Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

    Until you end up an open relay. So only go this route if you know what you're doing. And also be ready to handle blacklist removal, and setting up proper email authentication parameters like SPF, DKIM, rDNS, DMARC, etc.

    If you don't want all that hassle, better just go with an established email relay provider.

    I've set up all of them, and to ensure the IP reputation is good, I'm actually running them on my own ASN and IP block.

    I'm sure you do. It's just a general message for everyone

  • jschroederjschroeder Member
    edited December 2024

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:
    Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

    Until you end up an open relay. So only go this route if you know what you're doing. And also be ready to handle blacklist removal, and setting up proper email authentication parameters like SPF, DKIM, rDNS, DMARC, etc.

    If you don't want all that hassle, better just go with an established email relay provider.

    I've set up all of them, and to ensure the IP reputation is good, I'm actually running them on my own ASN and IP block.

    I'm sure you do. It's just a general message for everyone

    It's not that difficult... https://p.ke/mailserver has a well-written, comprehensive setup guide. People can just follow it.

  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad

    @jschroeder said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:
    Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

    Until you end up an open relay. So only go this route if you know what you're doing. And also be ready to handle blacklist removal, and setting up proper email authentication parameters like SPF, DKIM, rDNS, DMARC, etc.

    If you don't want all that hassle, better just go with an established email relay provider.

    I've set up all of them, and to ensure the IP reputation is good, I'm actually running them on my own ASN and IP block.

    I'm sure you do. It's just a general message for everyone

    It's not that difficult... https://p.ke/mailserver has a well-written, comprehensive setup guide. People can just follow it.

    Wait until you see how many are actually good at following guides. The risk factor of a misconfigured mail server is huge, and most of the time, it's not worth the time and effort.

  • jschroederjschroeder Member
    edited December 2024

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:

    @itsTomHarper said:

    @jschroeder said:
    Postfix + Dovecot
    I've been running it on a 384MB VPS for years and have never had any problems

    Until you end up an open relay. So only go this route if you know what you're doing. And also be ready to handle blacklist removal, and setting up proper email authentication parameters like SPF, DKIM, rDNS, DMARC, etc.

    If you don't want all that hassle, better just go with an established email relay provider.

    I've set up all of them, and to ensure the IP reputation is good, I'm actually running them on my own ASN and IP block.

    I'm sure you do. It's just a general message for everyone

    It's not that difficult... https://p.ke/mailserver has a well-written, comprehensive setup guide. People can just follow it.

    Wait until you see how many are actually good at following guides. The risk factor of a misconfigured mail server is huge, and most of the time, it's not worth the time and effort.

    I don't think people will spend a lot of time on it; this can be done in a single afternoon. But again, as you said, this depends on the person and their familiarity with the software and standards.

    If someone is interested in setting up their own mail server, then it is definitely worth trying to follow the material and set up everything by themselves instead of using a relay.

  • sanvitsanvit Member
    edited December 2024

    https://mailcow.email

    Bit on the bulkier side, but it just works, and has all the bells and whistles. I've been self-hosting it for a few years now without any issue.
    They also have a managed service if you are into one

  • It's not difficult to setup a mail server.

    What difficult is gaining the reputation. You can do EVERYTHING right in setup yet your recipient might not get your mails because the giants have blocked you.

    Not worth the effort and risk.

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