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Morally correct? No. Legal? Yes.
There is no morally correct way to make money.
It’s scummy for sure, but probably not worth the moderators’ time to issue bans for. Maybe suspension at best.
Is it morally correct to buy from scalpers?
Often you don't know that you buy from one
As long as there are buyers, there are sellers.
There are?
I believe that forum rules should clearly state that obvious scalping is not tolerated here. Legit users loose cheap service.
I dislike this behavior.
Most of the time, it isn’t exactly "legal", as scalpers don't follow the normal service transfer route but instead sell the entire account, which is against the TOS of most hosting companies.
A person who buys a complete account from a scalper isn't the one who agreed to the service provider’s TOS policy and therefore doesn't legally own the account.
Trying to make money by reselling promotional products is indeed highly questionable.
I mean it's legal but I think the admins should remove threads that attempt to resell promotional products within 90 days of purchase(free transfers are fine)
If you see a scalping thread, flag it and we'll act
We allow service transfers according to our rules for service transfers
In my opinion transfers should be fine as long as there is no markup added. If someone transfers his promo VPS for the price he paid I don't see an issue.
I think people's moral compass will change if they are offered a KS-A for say $11, which technically breaks the LET rules for what is allowed for a service transfer.
Scalping attempt is immoral when scalper act first. If subject request to be scalped by saying “I will pay anything to get something” - than it is acceptable, there is no moral ground to prevent stupidity. Of course enabling scalper is also questionable…
Thats something the hoster should decide. Hoster can forbid selling/transfering, atleast they can put something into their TOS like a period of time that you need to have the bought product active to transfer/sell it
We don't see everything that goes on here, and if two users make a deal in private, there isn't much that we can do beyond the general warning that it's especially risky for the buyer
But if a user openly tries to scalp servers, flag the post, and we'll act
Fuck. Scalpers.
providers should take care about it, setting limits based in their stock.
What if the thread says something along the line of "PM me and we'll talk" (many who sell OVH cheap servers these days do) instead of stating the price for the transfer? Should/can we flag those?
Like this for example: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/200254/transfer-ks-le-1
Let's first define the term scalpers... Then continue discuss.
Yes
In short, ordinary users (those without a Patron Provider tag or a Host Rep tag) aren't allowed to "sell servers or services" here
As I said above, ordinary users are allowed to announce service transfers following the rules for service transfers
They use a sharp knife to cut the skin off of the top of your head.
Lol, yeah. Most definitely
just saying, its a broad term...
I had this type of behaviour when I had the offer for one time fee stackCP hosting one time fee, within the first few days I had people sign up and within days "please transfer to my friend"
People ordering claimed to be a lurking the forum, not a member.
At this point I added fee to transfer the accounts and it stopped overnight.
I've just closed that thread and issued a warning to the user
(The server had already been sold)
If someone wants to try to scalp a server, LET isn't the best place to try -- on the contrary
Why? OP seemed to be an established user. Service transferred at cost? What's the wrongdoing in that?
How about looking into bots ran by forum members to scalp good deals, openly advertised?
Anyway, I agree with OP but let's define what the discussion and definition is about exactly.
The user in question didn't specify a price for the service transfer
If you announce a service transfer, you need to specify a price, and the following rule applies:
( https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/153228/rules-for-selling-on-lowendtalk-updated-04th-sep-2018/p1#servicetransfers )