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  • @emgh said:

    @JoseDieguez said: backblaze has their own issues, and error responses, wich makes the use of their system slower (and not-recommended by jetbackup for example)

    It's more like a structural difference in design, a difference that I think fits LET perfectly

    For anyone interested: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-hidden-costs-of-s3-compatibility/

    i don't think so, backblaze has received enough backlash for their 503 errors because they say "503 error means: everything is OK, everything works, but you should retry again".

    and their 503 errors are incredible frequent, in high numbers. tried them, with few dozens of servers, and it wasn't reliable at all, not for speed at least, for sure you can retry 50 times every time it fails and fails and fails and fails and fails... you get the idea.

  • @emgh said:

    @JoseDieguez said: backblaze has their own issues, and error responses, wich makes the use of their system slower (and not-recommended by jetbackup for example)

    It's more like a structural difference in design, a difference that I think fits LET perfectly

    For anyone interested: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-hidden-costs-of-s3-compatibility/

    According to backblaze support, you should get 1-2 503 error per every 100 requests.. when things goes good.

    the thing is.. things goes bad more frequently on backblaze, and you get way more 503 errors per 100 requests, and you also start getting those 503 errors on the retries... and then you get your backups taking much more time than it should..

  • emghemgh Member, BF Ambassador

    @JoseDieguez said:

    @emgh said:

    @JoseDieguez said: backblaze has their own issues, and error responses, wich makes the use of their system slower (and not-recommended by jetbackup for example)

    It's more like a structural difference in design, a difference that I think fits LET perfectly

    For anyone interested: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/design-thinking-b2-apis-the-hidden-costs-of-s3-compatibility/

    According to backblaze support, you should get 1-2 503 error per every 100 requests.. when things goes good.

    the thing is.. things goes bad more frequently on backblaze, and you get way more 503 errors per 100 requests, and you also start getting those 503 errors on the retries... and then you get your backups taking much more time than it should..

    Sure, but for a very good price.

  • @emgh said:

    Sure, but for a very good price.

    yep, they have great pricing, with no minimum time as wasabi.

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  • I actually like StorJ so far. If you have a regular connection like I mentioned you need to use the gateway, otherwise you can use their proprietary protocol for even better performance. I really like the idea of decentralized storage. So far it has uploaded 200GB already with my Gigabit connection at home so it's pretty good I think.

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  • Uploaded over 500 GB for backups (both my Mac and my personal Kubernetes cluster), and assets for a web app. It was quite fast actually

  • @vitobotta said:
    I have been recommending them often because the service looked good and the price awesome, but now I am regretting it. A whole day outage is not good. Maybe I should switch to Wasabi.

    R2

  • I tested StorJ support to see if it's good and I am impressed. I read that by default they rate limit to 100 req/sec, so I cranked up number of threads in Arq for my macOS backups, and it went over that limit so I got a few "Please reduce your request rate" errors.

    So I contacted support, and asked if they could raise the limit, and support was friendly and fast and doubled my rate limit to 200 requests per second within a few hours. Seems like a good alternative to Wasabi etc!

    Thanked by 1fluffernutter
  • Any reason you don't use 2 systems? I was using Backblaze B2 West and East and their builtin replication. Found out my East was several TBs larger then West (source). There support couldn't explain why just said it wasn't possible. I just went to colo-ing a second box and just rclone multiple times a day from B2 and make use of zfs snapshots.

  • I already have a separate backup using Borg with the Hetzner Storage Share. This is for my second off site backup copy. I usually prefer use different tools with different locations in case a location or a tool fails me.

  • Has anyone encountered a slow download on idrive? - Sometimes even below 900 kB/s

  • @daffyy said:
    Has anyone encountered a slow download on idrive? - Sometimes even below 900 kB/s

    Performance at least has always been good for me. I only switched because a whole day outage was a red flag.

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  • bjobjo Member

    @vitobotta Did you also think about hosting an own storj node?

  • @bjo said:
    @vitobotta Did you also think about hosting an own storj node?

    Not really. Not a hassle I am interested in at the moment. You?

  • bjobjo Member

    Could be interesting to contribute to the decentralization, as I have some free space on my NUC and a symmetric 1Gbit connection.

  • I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

  • BochiBochi Member

    @vitobotta said:
    I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

    Running HyperBackup to C2 for a few years now in a company, so far no issues.
    Tested restore speed as well and it was quite good - can't remember exact numbers though.

  • @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

    Running HyperBackup to C2 for a few years now in a company, so far no issues.
    Tested restore speed as well and it was quite good - can't remember exact numbers though.

    C2 object storage or the other one? I think there are two cloud storage services from Synology called C2, with one being object storage that I am testing.

    I am looking forward to do a test restore to see the speed. At the moment it's backing up around 700 GB and it's done 37 GBs in 1.5h. It's not maxing out my Gigabit connection but I think it's pretty decent

  • BochiBochi Member

    @vitobotta said:

    @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

    Running HyperBackup to C2 for a few years now in a company, so far no issues.
    Tested restore speed as well and it was quite good - can't remember exact numbers though.

    C2 object storage or the other one? I think there are two cloud storage services from Synology called C2, with one being object storage that I am testing.

    I am looking forward to do a test restore to see the speed. At the moment it's backing up around 700 GB and it's done 37 GBs in 1.5h. It's not maxing out my Gigabit connection but I think it's pretty decent

    Oh well, you are absolutely right! Got it mixed up, they call everything "C2 Something"...
    Back when I deployed it, I don't think the others existed. :/
    Nevertheless: if their backend is similar / the same (would somehow make sense), then I expect a pretty decent quality from the object storage as well.

  • @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

    Running HyperBackup to C2 for a few years now in a company, so far no issues.
    Tested restore speed as well and it was quite good - can't remember exact numbers though.

    C2 object storage or the other one? I think there are two cloud storage services from Synology called C2, with one being object storage that I am testing.

    I am looking forward to do a test restore to see the speed. At the moment it's backing up around 700 GB and it's done 37 GBs in 1.5h. It's not maxing out my Gigabit connection but I think it's pretty decent

    Oh well, you are absolutely right! Got it mixed up, they call everything "C2 Something"...
    Back when I deployed it, I don't think the others existed. :/
    Nevertheless: if their backend is similar / the same (would somehow make sense), then I expect a pretty decent quality from the object storage as well.

    Cool. Have you ever needed to do a large restore with it?

  • BochiBochi Member

    @vitobotta said:

    @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

    Running HyperBackup to C2 for a few years now in a company, so far no issues.
    Tested restore speed as well and it was quite good - can't remember exact numbers though.

    C2 object storage or the other one? I think there are two cloud storage services from Synology called C2, with one being object storage that I am testing.

    I am looking forward to do a test restore to see the speed. At the moment it's backing up around 700 GB and it's done 37 GBs in 1.5h. It's not maxing out my Gigabit connection but I think it's pretty decent

    Oh well, you are absolutely right! Got it mixed up, they call everything "C2 Something"...
    Back when I deployed it, I don't think the others existed. :/
    Nevertheless: if their backend is similar / the same (would somehow make sense), then I expect a pretty decent quality from the object storage as well.

    Cool. Have you ever needed to do a large restore with it?

    So far not. Keeping versions, so daily (or rather monthly) business is restoring a few files/folders.
    Usually in the lower single digit numbers GB wise, so not much stressed so far.
    As said, ran a restore test once and performed the last move to a new system via HyberBackup from C2 (Backup) - worked flawless and maxed out the line of the company (just 500Mbit/s back then).

  • @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:

    @Bochi said:

    @vitobotta said:
    I am investigating this stuff at work too at the moment, and today I am testing Synology C2 as well with some stuff to see how it looks. So far I really like the simplicity of the service. Does any of you have experience with it?

    Running HyperBackup to C2 for a few years now in a company, so far no issues.
    Tested restore speed as well and it was quite good - can't remember exact numbers though.

    C2 object storage or the other one? I think there are two cloud storage services from Synology called C2, with one being object storage that I am testing.

    I am looking forward to do a test restore to see the speed. At the moment it's backing up around 700 GB and it's done 37 GBs in 1.5h. It's not maxing out my Gigabit connection but I think it's pretty decent

    Oh well, you are absolutely right! Got it mixed up, they call everything "C2 Something"...
    Back when I deployed it, I don't think the others existed. :/
    Nevertheless: if their backend is similar / the same (would somehow make sense), then I expect a pretty decent quality from the object storage as well.

    Cool. Have you ever needed to do a large restore with it?

    So far not. Keeping versions, so daily (or rather monthly) business is restoring a few files/folders.
    Usually in the lower single digit numbers GB wise, so not much stressed so far.
    As said, ran a restore test once and performed the last move to a new system via HyberBackup from C2 (Backup) - worked flawless and maxed out the line of the company (just 500Mbit/s back then).

    Gotcha, thanks for the info! It's uploading pretty well so far at 56 GB in 2 hours.

  • Nice gesture from StorJ! Someone from the company contacted me and recognized my name as the author of hetzner-k3s, so she gave me $25/mo credits for 5 years ($1500 value)! So I think between StorJ and Synology C2 I should be settled for my own backups.

  • akhfaakhfa Member

    @vitobotta said:
    Nice gesture from StorJ! Someone from the company contacted me and recognized my name as the author of hetzner-k3s, so she gave me $25/mo credits for 5 years ($1500 value)! So I think between StorJ and Synology C2 I should be settled for my own backups.

    He must be LET reader then 😉

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