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Looking to colo at a Russian datacentre(s)

phinphin Member
edited October 5 in Requests

Title is self-explanatory.
I'm looking to get a full rack of colo, 10gbps, at a Russian datacentre.
Please DM me for more information including power needs, etc.

Thanks,
Phin

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  • jenkkijenkki Member

    https://selectel.ru/services/colocation/server-colocation/

    Try writing them. But I'm not sure they will accept equipment outside Russia.

  • You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

  • @sillycat said:
    You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    Looking to colo at a Russian datacentre(s)

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @sillycat said:
    You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    Americans think more about business than political bullshit, like Europeans.

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  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @rustelekom said: Americans think more about business than political bullshit, like Europeans.

    It's not even about politics, but how it will be solved physically and legally from abroad if they don't have their local representative in Russia in these cities. Sending equipment from abroad can lead to tax collection at customs, someone has to accept to sign the documents further legally formalize the contract with the company and physically deliver them equipment to the data center. Then pay taxes and installation and maintenance costs. Master and Visa bank cards are not accepted, Paypal does not work. You need an account in a Russian bank and a MIR card at least. If you are from China, at least it could be done, but from far abroad it is almost impossible without a local legally registered representative.

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @sillycat said: You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    If there's a business question, why you always refer to the nationality of the person you're addressing?

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  • @jenkki said:

    @sillycat said: You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    If there's a business question, why you always refer to the nationality of the person you're addressing?

    Always? In this situation, how will he send hardware to Russia, considering the sanctions? How will he send money there, given the sanctions? How will he do anything in Russia, considering the sanctions?

    Additionally, I find it ironic that he claims on his website, 'Live Free or Die,' while Russia represents the exact opposite of that.

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  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @sillycat said: How will he do anything in Russia, considering the sanctions?

    Mail from the US is not blocked. Mail from the EU and Turkey is blocked. A person in the USA can physically send anything to Russia that is not prohibited for import. It's all a question of volumes and customs fees. And how it's going to be handled from here on out. It's impossible to do it remotely because you have to physically sign the documents. Tourism to Russia from the US and EU countries is not blocked. Many tourists from the US and EU visit here now through Turkey or UAE. There almost no restrictions on nationality or sanctions on Russia's part.

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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @jenkki said:

    @rustelekom said: Americans think more about business than political bullshit, like Europeans.

    It's not even about politics, but how it will be solved physically and legally from abroad if they don't have their local representative in Russia in these cities. Sending equipment from abroad can lead to tax collection at customs, someone has to accept to sign the documents further legally formalize the contract with the company and physically deliver them equipment to the data center. Then pay taxes and installation and maintenance costs. Master and Visa bank cards are not accepted, Paypal does not work. You need an account in a Russian bank and a MIR card at least. If you are from China, at least it could be done, but from far abroad it is almost impossible without a local legally registered representative.

    Everything is not so difficult if you do business. Of course, if sanctions and other problems go away, business would be less complicated, but generally speaking, all problems are sorted out if you have a goal.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @sillycat said:

    @jenkki said:

    @sillycat said: You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    If there's a business question, why you always refer to the nationality of the person you're addressing?

    Always? In this situation, how will he send hardware to Russia, considering the sanctions? How will he send money there, given the sanctions? How will he do anything in Russia, considering the sanctions?

    Everything is possible if you want realize your goal.

    Additionally, I find it ironic that he claims on his website, 'Live Free or Die,' while Russia represents the exact opposite of that.

    Hah, I guess you don't know the latest offer from well-known politicians of the Democratic party, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton, regarding the First Amendment in the American Declaration of Independence. They say it needs to be restricted due to the current world situation.

    In Russia, you can live freely while complying with local laws. Not all russian laws are perfect and some seem quite strange, but the law is the law.

  • emghemgh Member
    edited October 6

    @rustelekom said: Hillary Clinton

    @rustelekom said: In Russia, you can live freely

    @rustelekom said: well-known politicians of the Democratic party

    Can this guy just stop? You turn EVERY THREAD into a thread about Russia vs. the US.

    Seriously, get a diary. This ain't the place.

  • ArkasArkas Moderator

    From NOW on, every single political post in this thread will get a severe warning, and If the action is repeated, you will get a ban. Enough!

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    Can this guy just stop? You turn EVERY THREAD into a thread about Russia vs. the US.

    Seriously, get a diary. This ain't the place.

    Just stop spreading hate against Russia and Russians and I would be fully satisfied.

    sillycat: "You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing."

  • @rustelekom said:

    @emgh said:

    Can this guy just stop? You turn EVERY THREAD into a thread about Russia vs. the US.

    Seriously, get a diary. This ain't the place.

    Just stop spreading hate against Russia and Russians and I would be fully satisfied.

    sillycat: "You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing."

    I wont say that every ruski person is worthy of the word hate. But the secound you support Putin in ANY way after everything he have done, ur a fucking idiot and deserve to starve slowly to death.

  • phinphin Member

    @sillycat said:
    You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    Who said I was?

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  • 428428 Member

    @phin said:

    @sillycat said:
    You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    Who said I was?

    Too late, he already banned

  • phinphin Member

    @428 said:

    @phin said:

    @sillycat said:
    You're a US citizen. What the fuck are you doing.

    Who said I was?

    Too late, he already banned

    Who? There's multiple people banned

  • Anyways...
    https://vdsina.ru/colocation (on the 'Piracy Watchlist', very based and cheap provider)

    You already have servers in Romania, but Moldova might also be a pretty good call, considering their (happy) ties with Russia and the plentiful more options. @alexhost @AvaHosting @AvenaCloud

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  • Are you looking for something specific? There's a whole lot of hosting providers which do colo in Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Novosibirsk.

  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited October 6

    @jenkki said:

    @rustelekom said: Americans think more about business than political bullshit, like Europeans.

    It's not even about politics, but how it will be solved physically and legally from abroad if they don't have their local representative in Russia in these cities. Sending equipment from abroad can lead to tax collection at customs, someone has to accept to sign the documents further legally formalize the contract with the company and physically deliver them equipment to the data center. Then pay taxes and installation and maintenance costs. Master and Visa bank cards are not accepted, Paypal does not work. You need an account in a Russian bank and a MIR card at least. If you are from China, at least it could be done, but from far abroad it is almost impossible without a local legally registered representative.

    Everything you point out is correct but why do you think it's somehow possible from China?

    Like Russia, their payment systems are embedded. Unlike Russia, they're one of the few places you need a relatively expensive license to run a hosting business legally (ICP).

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @techdragon said: Like Russia, their payment systems are embedded.

    Businesses in China have been using bank accounts in Russia for a long time. Payment in some online stores like Aliexpress can be made in Russian rubles using MIR and other cards.

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  • techdragontechdragon Member
    edited October 6

    @jenkki said:

    @techdragon said: Like Russia, their payment systems are embedded.

    Businesses in China have been using bank accounts in Russia for a long time. Payment in some online stores like Aliexpress can be made in Russian rubles using MIR and other cards.

    I thought Hong Kong was more commonly utilised for this function. That's interesting.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-media-alibaba-stops-accepting-083330484.html

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited October 6

    You would likely need to mail forward via "Russian Friendly" countries, such as Turkey or Arabic nations. It's pretty hard to send hardware over right now unless you have contacts that can physically move the goods through border checks.

    You might also lose the hardware at any time if you are from hostile country and the provider decides to stop serving foreign customers. Your personal political opinions won't matter at that point for them.

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  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @techdragon said: That's interesting.

    Look at the author of this publication. They themselves do not know what they are writing.

    What do you think they pay for goods in rubles on this site? - https://aliexpress.ru/

  • @jenkki said:

    @techdragon said: That's interesting.

    Look at the author of this publication. They themselves do not know what they are writing.

    What do you think they pay for goods in rubles on this site? - https://aliexpress.ru/

    You can also find the article on Kommersant.

    I think your example isn't really related to the problem you originally put forth and there are less clumsy solutions.

    Off topic though, I guess.

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    @techdragon said: I think your example isn't really related to the problem you originally put forth and there are less clumsy solutions.

    Well, I expressed the theory and how it works in practice is a matter for the client.

    Don't believe everything they say or wrote.

  • bkjbkj Member

    Useless people lol, man wanted RU colo not RU politics.

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  • jenkkijenkki Member

    OP doesn't seem to show any interest in his request. :smile:

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @sillycat said:
    Anyways...
    https://vdsina.ru/colocation (on the 'Piracy Watchlist', very based and cheap provider)

    Uhm, vdsina isn't exactly cheap - but they are quite good. As for the piracy watchlist, (a) I don't give a flying fuck about them, and (b) oh well, a russian provider being on this or that "bad list" means very little.
    Be that as it may, my experience with vdsina has been positive and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, if there wasn't the ugly payment problems (cumbersome due to all the sanctions, e.g. no PayPal, no (western) credit cards, etc.)

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  • @jsg said:

    @sillycat said:
    Anyways...
    https://vdsina.ru/colocation (on the 'Piracy Watchlist', very based and cheap provider)

    Uhm, vdsina isn't exactly cheap - but they are quite good. As for the piracy watchlist, (a) I don't give a flying fuck about them, and (b) oh well, a russian provider being on this or that "bad list" means very little.
    Be that as it may, my experience with vdsina has been positive and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, if there wasn't the ugly payment problems (cumbersome due to all the sanctions, e.g. no PayPal, no (western) credit cards, etc.)

    They also have vdsina.com which is owned by an UAE company and doesn't offer services in Russia.

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