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Share your experiences regarding LET's moderation, again²
Following my previous discussion(s) about this topic and since a couple of months have passed:
@Pilzbaum said: How is/was you experience with LETs moderators, especially lately?
What bugs you, what makes you happy?
The difference/improvement of the first and second poll was "statistically significant" as people with more knowledge about surveys would likely say, so let's see what you guys have to offer now as well
LET moderation
- How would you grade LETs moderation currently?71 votes
- Excellent15.49%
- Good30.99%
- Average21.13%
- Poor15.49%
- Very poor16.90%
- How did moderation change for you compared to last poll?71 votes
- It improved12.68%
- It stayed the same25.35%
- It got worse19.72%
- I did not participate in the last poll(s)42.25%
Comments
Ban the $20k scammer!
What would this achieve? If you ban them already, the conversation would stop, and that would be it. This is a discussion forum.
I think moderation is Good. Not much special going on
So.... out of 9 people, only 1 thinks moderation is poor till now. Good for mods though. That's a nice ratio.
did you paid 200 bilohbucks? If no, you have no opinion here ever
Some people should check the difference between mods and admins. I guess the mods here acting within their guidlines and they do pretty good.
Overall, great
Obviously there’s mistakes every now and then, but keeping a place like this in order for free in your spare time isn’t the easiest thing
LowEndTalk mods are fantastic.
LowEndTalk admins are a bunch of wannabes. Except for @FAT32 - that guy is legit. The rest are just sad.
I don't get the point. Admins and mods are humans, presumably humans who try hard and their best, but humans, so they can't be perfect.
As for myself I never had any trouble or bad experience with any admin or mod and think that most of them do a decent job. If I were asked what I'd like to see improved (from my pespective) then it would be this
But I guess the admins and mods are bound by policy and "get clicks" seems to be the main goal. I'm not exactly happy with that but hey, as long as halfway civilized discussions are possible I'm reasonably OK with LET and staying.
@jsg Agree about lower tolerance for personal attacks & derailing
Not sure about the allegations, if you suspect something you should be able to point it out (although, it needs to be resonable)
And I don’t agree with much lower tolerance for meming, that just sounds very boring
Do you direct this to anything specific of the former comments or the discussion in general?
I think such a discussion offers some general insight and feedback to the moderation team ever now and then. Could help to improve it afterall
I'm not against pointing out something bad, I'm against allegations without evidence; a particularly nasty example being calling allegations "facts".
So, if one is under the impression that some provider does something bad, improper, etc. one should be able to say that, of course, but in an adequate way like e.g. "I've experienced [something bad] with provider X, and it seems that the provider doesn't care or possibly even knowingly lets it happen" - but not "provider X should be banned because he does [some allegation]!!", unless one has solid evidence and/or verifiable facts.
Of course you don't agree, as you quite often do it yourselves. But sorry, a thread should serve to discuss its topic and not to abuse it for being "funny".
I'm btw not even against throwing out an occasional funny meme (I myself know how hard it can be not to burst out with something one considers immensely funny). My point is more about the - quite frequent - series of A puts out a meme, then B, C, D join in, some to/fro between them, and soon half a page is full of basically nothing (in terms of topic relevance).
I'm not in any way against the discussion, but I doubt its leading to anything and also humans are humans and hence imperfect. What I mean is this: I very much doubt (and have zero indications for it happening) that admins and mods just, for whatever reason, act ill-willed or unfair (e.g. because say, they don't like a certain user). Similarly I strongly doubt that they are plain stupid; nope they are not, I'm certain that they know and understand perfectly well that certain things (like e.g. tags removed and soon reattached) are not good for a community, or more precisely, for a quality community; they also are, I'm quite certain, aware that things usually have two sides with one side prioritized by the users but the other side prioritized by the owner. Clicks at almost any cost is an example, even one that has been publicly critized (e.g. "biloh bucks") yet nothing has been done about it AFAIK.
I personally think that only or at least mainly focusing on clicks or revenue or other numbers is not a good choice, at least not for a quality community. But then, I'm just me and in particular I haven't invested thousands of dollars into it- @jbiloh did, plus countless hours of work, etc. so he decides, not me or you.
"Let us control the money of a country and we care not who makes its laws." This is a maxim of the house of Rothschilds and a principle of European banks.
The same principles apply on a smaller scale in this small community, by using a more modern term: bilohbucks.
FWIW I think our moderation team is doing a great job finding the right balance.
The art of staying calm and cleareyed when moderating a forum, especially one as energetic as ours, takes skill.
Once you're down that many orders of magnitude, the laws of financial physics fall apart.
Pardon me, but IMO that's just stupid.
Yeah, most of the time I like you too
I don't understand why it's not allowed to promote Dedicated Servers in your own thread that are priced above $125/month, but you can reply to someones thread and offer whatever pricing you want?
Where is the difference?