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Switch recommendation

Hey!

Providers, which switch do you recommend in this situation?

  • 24p 10G
  • Rackmount (1U)
  • Managed

Comments

  • SGrafSGraf Member, Patron Provider

    Do you want a more entry level (ie mikrotik), budget(ie: fs.com), or mid-to-highend recommendation (the usual suspects like arista,cisco, ....)?

    Are you looking for something new or refurbished?

    If you can let us know more about your application (and budget) it'll be easier to recommend something that fits.

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    I don't care much for thee fs switches. Too buggy

  • @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    I don't care much for thee fs switches. Too buggy

    Just sounds sketchy, for home use just use a mikrotik or something like that, for datacenters I would get a cisco or arista.

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider

    @kait said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    I don't care much for thee fs switches. Too buggy

    Just sounds sketchy, for home use just use a mikrotik or something like that, for datacenters I would get a cisco or arista.

    Eh. Ubiquiti is better than Mikrotik.
    But at the same time it's like a Ford vs Chevy battle.

  • @DataIdeas-Josh said: Eh. Ubiquiti is better than Mikrotik.

    Ubiquiti is not open enough and mega expensive.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    Doesn't Ubiquiti require you to connect to their switches to their "cloud gateway" devices? I thought their switches can't be used independently, so the bottleneck is the cloud gateway port. But I've never used one so I'm not sure.

  • @MikeA said:
    Doesn't Ubiquiti require you to connect to their switches to their "cloud gateway" devices? I thought their switches can't be used independently, so the bottleneck is the cloud gateway port. But I've never used one so I'm not sure.

    You can, but you don't have to, you can also get a cloud key bs thingy. Its all super cringe and a closed ecosystem like Apple.

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited September 2024

    @MikeA said:
    Doesn't Ubiquiti require you to connect to their switches to their "cloud gateway" devices? I thought their switches can't be used independently, so the bottleneck is the cloud gateway port. But I've never used one so I'm not sure.

    They need to be adopted to a Network controller, which you can self-host in any local VM/host or use their cloud keys or UDMs (which have a built-in controller) that can host the "Network" app.
    Perhaps not a hard requirement, since once you set it up with a controller you can just forget about it and the config will persist on the device.

    Thanked by 2quicksilver03 MikeA
  • @kait said:

    @MikeA said:
    Doesn't Ubiquiti require you to connect to their switches to their "cloud gateway" devices? I thought their switches can't be used independently, so the bottleneck is the cloud gateway port. But I've never used one so I'm not sure.

    You can, but you don't have to, you can also get a cloud key bs thingy. Its all super cringe and a closed ecosystem like Apple.

    Not that much since you can actually self-host the Network app. But yeah, their other apps need to be hosted on their own controllers.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    We use Edge-core DCS201.
    Supports YANG based management, RESTCONF and SONiC.
    https://www.edge-core.com/product/dcs201/

  • @vinhais said:
    Hey!

    Providers, which switch do you recommend in this situation?

    • 24p 10G
    • Rackmount (1U)
    • Managed

    CRS326-24S+2Q+RM does a great job if you know how to configure it on RouterOS.

  • AS203446AS203446 Member, Patron Provider

    HPE Flexfabric 5900AF, 48x10G 4x40G.
    Typical trident 2 Broadcom platform

    Otherwise Juniper QFX5100-48S
    Trident 2 aswell.

    Or Cisco Cisco N9K-C9372PX. 48x10G, 6x40G

    Don't use MikroTik, save yourself the headache.
    I have plenty of customers that ditched MikroTik after performance issues.

  • Using Omada

    Cheap managed switch
    Cheap WAP (4x4 5GHz for under 99€ a piece!, WiFi7 for 150€ a piece)

    For small-medium businesses and home use perfect
    Not sure about enterprise use

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @vinhais

    10G over RJ46 or SFP+ ?

    Either the case,

    Artista
    Cisco
    Juniper

    If your trafic has over 200.000 pps, those are your options.

    If you have light traffic and need 10G for fast backups only, MKT or HPE will do a good job.

    Sincerely, if you eBay the problem, the top 3 brands will not be that expensive.

    For Cisco use the Nexus series, N3K is latency optimized so that would fit a low budget.

    Of the 3 to brands, in Layer 2 Arista is the king.

    Cheers

  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    ARISTA DCS-7050SX-64-R

    I Think its called 7050TX if u want normal Ethernet ports instead of Sfp+

    I Just bought 6 pieces of it. Thats why it came to my mind.
    Can be very cheap. Like 300€.

    Otherwise please let us know your requirements and Situation in Details. You didnt Post much info. Can interpret anything Inside in 24p 10g and etc.
    Sfp+ or rj45? Etc etc.

    There is fucking loads of solutions for you based on this informations

    Thanked by 1kait
  • SalmonBrandonSalmonBrandon Member, Host Rep

    Just don’t use Mikrotik in production environment. We’ve learned our lesson in the hard way.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    I don't care much for thee fs switches. Too buggy

    We purchased one of their 100G ones to test during "the great Juniper shortage" during the pandemic. Reminded us why we're buying Juni :)

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • ChunkserveChunkserve Member, Patron Provider

    @SalmonBrandon said: Just don’t use Mikrotik in production environment. We’ve learned our lesson in the hard way.

    Out of curiosity - what exact mode did you use? What was the use case? (And the traffic level)

  • JoshRJoshR Member, Patron Provider
    edited September 2024

    @Clouvider said:

    @DataIdeas-Josh said:
    I don't care much for thee fs switches. Too buggy

    We purchased one of their 100G ones to test during "the great Juniper shortage" during the pandemic. Reminded us why we're buying Juni :)

    Personally over working with Arista so much.
    I don't like the Juniper software either.
    Arista and Cisco has similar commands.

    I guess it all goes down to what you have learned.

    Thanked by 1host_c
  • SalmonBrandonSalmonBrandon Member, Host Rep

    @Chunkserve said:

    @SalmonBrandon said: Just don’t use Mikrotik in production environment. We’ve learned our lesson in the hard way.

    Out of curiosity - what exact mode did you use? What was the use case? (And the traffic level)

    Sorry, I was quite busy during the past couple days and did not reply promptly.

    Our experience with MikroTik mostly came from their CCR product lines. We used CCR2216 and CCR2004 in the past as an edge router. The hardware offloading feature was very buggy - every time we enabled it, the whole system crashed and rebooted. However, without the feature, the CPU alone can handle much less traffic, which really gave us a headache. I also know people who were traumatised by MikroTik switches and routers in the past, so I really cannot recommend it to anyone who wants to deploy something in a production environment. Although for homelab, I would say it's great. I have two MikroTik switches running at my home at the moment.

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