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ChillBird

@EmuAGR said:
Tonight I got delivered a KS-LE-1 in RBX with 32GB RAM, 1 Gbps IPv6 up, and 2x450G SSD + 2x2T HDD. Some luck at last!

The bad side: The HDDs are HGST HUS724020ALA640 with a power on time of 64000h (7 years 4 months) and 79400h (9 years), and around 2600 power cycles both.

This is for long-term usage as file server and they'll bite the dust at any moment... Wondering if I should ask for a replacement?

how you check the ssd name, tbw and all other details in server?

EmuAGR

@aryanraj said:
how you check the ssd name, tbw and all other details in server?

As root: smartctl -a /dev/sdX . For TBW, check the Host_Writes_32MiB property, multiply by 32 and divide by 1024 twice (or, well, by 1048576).

loay

@aryanraj said:

@EmuAGR said:
Tonight I got delivered a KS-LE-1 in RBX with 32GB RAM, 1 Gbps IPv6 up, and 2x450G SSD + 2x2T HDD. Some luck at last!

The bad side: The HDDs are HGST HUS724020ALA640 with a power on time of 64000h (7 years 4 months) and 79400h (9 years), and around 2600 power cycles both.

This is for long-term usage as file server and they'll bite the dust at any moment... Wondering if I should ask for a replacement?

how you check the ssd name, tbw and all other details in server?

sudo apt update && sudo apt install dmidecode smartmontools -y

echo -e "CPU: $(lscpu | awk -F': +' '/Model name/ {print $2; exit}')\nRAM: $(free -h | awk '/Mem:/ {print $2}')\nRAM Type: $(dmidecode -t memory 2>/dev/null | awk -F': +' '/Error Correction Type/ {if ($2 != "None") print "ECC"; else print "Non-ECC"; exit}')\nDisks:\n$(lsblk -d -o NAME,TYPE,SIZE,MODEL | grep 'disk')\nDisk Power-On Hours:\n$(for disk in $(lsblk -d -n -o NAME,TYPE | awk '$2=="disk"{print $1}'); do if command -v smartctl &>/dev/null; then if smartctl -i /dev/$disk | grep -q 'SMART support is: Available'; then hours=$(smartctl -A /dev/$disk 2>/dev/null | awk '/Power_On_Hours/ {print $NF}'); echo "$disk: ${hours:-N/A} hours"; else echo "$disk: SMART not supported"; fi; else echo "$disk: smartctl not found"; fi; done)"

plumberg

@EmuAGR said:

This is for long-term usage as file server and they'll bite the dust at any moment... Wondering if I should ask for a replacement?

Congratulations on the lottery.

It's a hit/ miss. Sometimes with ssd, replacement may turn out to be in your favor. With spinning rust it may go otherwise.

Tried it long time ago and I ended up in the second category receiving older disks.

Good luck and keep us posted.

PS. They worked in the replacement within an hour of my request. No questions asked.

anda

is there a little upgrade bonus for sys-le? Is there anyone who got it?

Joao336

@MulTifiu said:
What is happening in BHS, OVH confirmed that my KS-A order would be delivered on 29-11..
Is it a joke or a real info ? let's see

They also informed this date to me and my friend

ChillBird

@Joao336 said:

@MulTifiu said:
What is happening in BHS, OVH confirmed that my KS-A order would be delivered on 29-11..
Is it a joke or a real info ? let's see

They also informed this date to me and my friend

can we confirm if it is the same support person or different in each case? i wish all get their server and offer extra to others.

EmuAGR

@plumberg said:
It's a hit/ miss. Sometimes with ssd, replacement may turn out to be in your favor. With spinning rust it may go otherwise.

Tried it long time ago and I ended up in the second category receiving older disks.

Even older than you already had? I mean, what would be a rough estimate of the ones you asked for replacement and the replaced ones?

Joao336

@EmuAGR said:
Tonight I got delivered a KS-LE-1 in RBX with 32GB RAM, 1 Gbps IPv6 up, and 2x450G SSD + 2x2T HDD. Some luck at last!

The bad side: The HDDs are HGST HUS724020ALA640 with a power on time of 64000h (7 years 4 months) and 79400h (9 years), and around 2600 power cycles both.

This is for long-term usage as file server and they'll bite the dust at any moment... Wondering if I should ask for a replacement?

It should still last a few years, these HD's are reliable, check his health parameters with smarttools

Joao336

@aryanraj said:

@Joao336 said:

@MulTifiu said:
What is happening in BHS, OVH confirmed that my KS-A order would be delivered on 29-11..
Is it a joke or a real info ? let's see

They also informed this date to me and my friend

can we confirm if it is the same support person or different in each case? i wish all get their server and offer extra to others.

My friend and I were helped by Humberto, practically the same message.

there is the possibility of delivering a similar server, such as the i7 7700K

plumberg

@EmuAGR said:

@plumberg said:
It's a hit/ miss. Sometimes with ssd, replacement may turn out to be in your favor. With spinning rust it may go otherwise.

Tried it long time ago and I ended up in the second category receiving older disks.

Even older than you already had? I mean, what would be a rough estimate of the ones you asked for replacement and the replaced ones?

Hehe. Yeah. Even older.

I had it at 65k. Ended up with 79k 😅😅😅 but no issues till date. Been many months ago.

ChillBird

@Joao336 said:

@aryanraj said:

@Joao336 said:

@MulTifiu said:
What is happening in BHS, OVH confirmed that my KS-A order would be delivered on 29-11..
Is it a joke or a real info ? let's see

They also informed this date to me and my friend

can we confirm if it is the same support person or different in each case? i wish all get their server and offer extra to others.

My friend and I were helped by Humberto, practically the same message.

there is the possibility of delivering a similar server, such as the i7 7700K

let's hear from @MulTifiu

Devotee

@EmuAGR said:
The bad side: The HDDs are HGST HUS724020ALA640 with a power on time of 64000h (7 years 4 months) and 79400h (9 years), and around 2600 power cycles both.

I was going to post something related to this.

Finally got a KS-LE-1 and a KS-LE-2 (both in RBX3). No lottery, no upgrades, no nothing. No IPMI, either.

KS-LE-1 info is:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1245 V2 @ 3.40GHz
RAM: 31Gi
RAM Type: Non-ECC
Disks:
sda disk 1.8T HGST_HUS724020ALA640
sdb disk 1.8T HGST_HUS726020ALA610
sdc disk 1.8T HGST_HUS726020ALA610
Disk Power-On Hours:
sda: 77980 hours
sdb: 48091 hours
sdc: 48081 hours

According to dmesg, SATA disks are working at 3.0 Gbps.

And KS-LE-2 info is:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1231 v3 @ 3.40GHz
RAM: 31Gi
RAM Type: ECC
Disks:
sdb disk 1.8T HGST_HUS726020ALA610
sdc disk 1.8T HGST_HUS726020ALA610
sde disk 1.8T HGST_HUS724020ALA640
sdf disk 1.8T HGST_HUS726020ALA610
Disk Power-On Hours:
sdb: 41402 hours
sdc: 44288 hours
sde: 80918 hours
sdf: 41745 hours

According to dmesg, SATA disks are working at 6.0 Gbps.

I've done a preclear of the disks to check them and the process for the HGST_HUS726020ALA610 drives takes around 13-14h while HGST_HUS724020ALA640 takes up to 21h. First step (pre-read whole disk) takes twice as long on the HGST_HUS724020ALA640 drives O_o

I'm guessing that in a SoftRAID configuration speeds depend on the slowest disk in the array, so I'm not sure if those HGST_HUS724020ALA640 drives will affect the overall performance.

Network speeds are Meh at best (compared to a KS-3 in GRA or even a KS-2 in BHS). I'll try tweaking the BBR settings like @buddermilch suggested.

It's a pity I couldn't get a KS-LE-E dedi (order was nuked as others) because I have mixed feelings about these BF "deals".

jcolideles

As for the lottery like added drives, will they really keep it even when you ask for replacement when it fails? Or they're like nah, you shouldn't have it in the first place.

Devotee

@jcolideles said:
As for the lottery like added drives, will they really keep it even when you ask for replacement when it fails? Or they're like nah, you shouldn't have it in the first place.

That would be a d*ck move if you were running them in a RAID array...

jcolideles

@Devotee said:

@jcolideles said:
As for the lottery like added drives, will they really keep it even when you ask for replacement when it fails? Or they're like nah, you shouldn't have it in the first place.

That would be a d*ck move if you were running them in a RAID array...

We'll it's separate. Mine was 2x450G NVMe as advertised but they added 2x4T HDD.

EmuAGR

@jcolideles said:
As for the lottery like added drives, will they really keep it even when you ask for replacement when it fails? Or they're like nah, you shouldn't have it in the first place.

I've been wondering exactly this too!

fredo1664

@EmuAGR said:

@jcolideles said:
As for the lottery like added drives, will they really keep it even when you ask for replacement when it fails? Or they're like nah, you shouldn't have it in the first place.

I've been wondering exactly this too!

Most likely the extra drives are in the hardware configuration. For example in the API it's there:
/dedicated/server/{serviceName}/specifications/hardware

Pretty sure the technician in the datacenter only sees this, not what was advertised in the catalog.

plumberg

@fredo1664 said:

@EmuAGR said:

@jcolideles said:
As for the lottery like added drives, will they really keep it even when you ask for replacement when it fails? Or they're like nah, you shouldn't have it in the first place.

I've been wondering exactly this too!

Most likely the extra drives are in the hardware configuration. For example in the API it's there:
/dedicated/server/{serviceName}/specifications/hardware

Pretty sure the technician in the datacenter only sees this, not what was advertised in the catalog.

Unless there is a serious issue with the whole system or something and they decide to swap the hardware, then you never know.

Not fear mongering just laying out a scenario when it may not be honored

alias

I just got a KS-LE-E server that I ordered on the 19th, so the probability that they will give the KS-A is 2%.

toumi111

@alias said:
I just got a KS-LE-E server that I ordered on the 19th, so the probability that they will give the KS-A is 2%.

Any upgrade?

alias

@toumi111 said:

@alias said:
I just got a KS-LE-E server that I ordered on the 19th, so the probability that they will give the KS-A is 2%.

Any upgrade?

I don't know yet, I'll let you know later, if anyone else has received one on the 19th, please let me know.

mycloud

@alias said:
I just got a KS-LE-E server that I ordered on the 19th, so the probability that they will give the KS-A is 2%.

SSD or HDD? Which DC?

alias

@mycloud said:

@alias said:
I just got a KS-LE-E server that I ordered on the 19th, so the probability that they will give the KS-A is 2%.

SSD or HDD? Which DC?

SSD in BHS (Canada)

resellervsin

@EmuAGR said:
Tonight I got delivered a KS-LE-1 in RBX with 32GB RAM, 1 Gbps IPv6 up, and 2x450G SSD + 2x2T HDD. Some luck at last!

The bad side: The HDDs are HGST HUS724020ALA640 with a power on time of 64000h (7 years 4 months) and 79400h (9 years), and around 2600 power cycles both.

This is for long-term usage as file server and they'll bite the dust at any moment... Wondering if I should ask for a replacement?

which location?

EmuAGR

@resellervsin said:
which location?

RBX3, but I got another completely vanilla server from that location.

Neoon

Updated my bot again to allow for multiple datacenters to be selected.

ps20090

@Neoon said: Updated my bot again to allow for multiple datacenters to be selected.

Thanks for your help friend, you are the best!

Vextro

Anyone know what the standard config LE-E HDD is worth? Got one that I'm thinking about transferring. Monthly + setup fee an acceptable price?

NateN34

@Devotee said:

@EmuAGR said:
The bad side: The HDDs are HGST HUS724020ALA640 with a power on time of 64000h (7 years 4 months) and 79400h (9 years), and around 2600 power cycles both.

Finally got a KS-LE-1 and a KS-LE-2 (both in RBX3). No lottery, no upgrades, no nothing. No IPMI, either.

According to dmesg, SATA disks are working at 6.0 Gbps.

I've done a preclear of the disks to check them and the process for the HGST_HUS726020ALA610 drives takes around 13-14h while HGST_HUS724020ALA640 takes up to 21h. First step (pre-read whole disk) takes twice as long on the HGST_HUS724020ALA640 drives O_o

I'm guessing that in a SoftRAID configuration speeds depend on the slowest disk in the array, so I'm not sure if those HGST_HUS724020ALA640 drives will affect the overall performance.

Having similar issues and not sure if I will renew. Got a KS-LE2 and the whole system is very sluggish....took 3 minutes to install GRUB to another drive. HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 drives with 85,000 hours and about 90 MB/S speeds.

I also have a SYS-SAT32 that is much faster. HGST Ultrastar 7K6000 drives with 40,000 hours and about 170 MB/S speeds. 4K read and write speeds are over double that of the KS-LE2. Odd, because the D1520 CPU which is a decent amount slower then the E3-1231v3.....