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I think Strato / IONOS is offering Berlin
@aveline
If you order at Strato (1€ Linux VPS), you randomly get assigned to Frankfurt or Berlin.
BUT: Their peering is really strange and their customer support isn’t able to optimize their routing. For a 2ms distance they route me around AMSIX which increases 20ms latency lol.
Ionos 1€ Cheap VPS all in Frankfurt, only 7€ Cloud VPS (1GB) possible in Berlin and old ones migrated from Baden-Baden to Berlin. The migrated ones have the same problem as Strato, brobably even the same machines, since Strato got acquisited by Ionos. Cloud VPS too expensive for me, didn’t try yet.
Misaka offers some for 6€+ but with sadly only with very little bandwidth.
Wish there was more providers in Berlin. Would move all my Germany servers to Berlin x)
Seems to be random for both Strato and Ionos.
From my location lottery luck, my two Strato vps I have are in Frankfurt.
While it was possible to choose datacenter location in Germany for the 1€ Ionos vps some time ago, where I did choose Berlin. Even now with the "lottery", the random ones I got were all in Berlin. Fine for me, as this means routing wise, the Berlin ones are only 2ms away from me.
speedbone.de should use the same DC than Strato in Berlin (or Strato uses the same than Speedbone, the old Alboin Kontor, I'd say).
Cannot say anything about the quality. Haven't used them so far.
Edit: sorry, I thought you are looking for colo, that was probably another thread.
Fpr kvm vps, @aveline aka Misaka.io would be your best bet.
At Strato they have summerdeal now it's pretty good
Does anyone know the name of the datacenter used by Starto in Berlin ?
hidden somewhere in berlin
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/berliner-wirtschaft/im-video-fuhrung-durch-geheimes-rechenzentrum-in-berlin-12029036.html
translation:
No company sign, no logo, no indication of what is actually hidden in the building in the centre of Berlin. The data centre of
Strato's data centre is one of the city's most secret addresses. Visitors are rare. And anyone who does gain access to the server rooms has to sign a confidentiality agreement.
External content
Privacy policy
The Tagesspiegel was granted access by the head of the data centre, Frank Schnabel, and given a tour of the technical building apparatus in the flow of electricity, data and cooling.
The power requirement of such a data centre is equivalent to that of a small town. A gigantic amount of green energy, which is transmitted here on the ground floor from a distribution centre to the server floor with millions of data. And in the event of a power failure? 40,000 litres of HVO diesel in seven generators can keep operations going for two to three days. A battery system is responsible for the transition between the power failure and before the generators start up and bridges the power supply for a maximum of 20 minutes.
Security in the data centre is elementary. Accordingly, access is organised in an onion system. You have to pass through three security zones with a pin and access card before you can enter the 3000 square metre server area. An uninterrupted power supply is one side of a healthy, intact cycle in the data centre. High-performance cooling is just as important. And this should be as energy-efficient as possible.
In the Strato data centre, the system works with a combination of direct and indirect cooling. Indirect cooling is the classic air conditioning system - here on a large scale. Direct cooling works via the air from outside, which is channelled into and through the server room via the building wall. Appropriate energy management systems are crucial in the competition among the currently booming data centres.
With the growing flood of data, the construction of new data centres in Germany is booming. Strato also still has capacity in its secret house. The server racks for the new cold and hot aisles are already ready.
a bank in germany does something similar for one of the backup dc's in case of a terrorist attack on the main infrastructure. from the outside, the building looks like a normal multi-family house, different names on the doorbell. but it doesn't matter where you ring the bell, the same person will always open the door for you (in case you are a door to door salesperson, for example). if you behave strangely, they won't let you go. directly behind the door in an area that cannot be seen from outside, there are always several people with visible weapons on their bodies and headsets in their ears.
A data center that doesn't want it to be known that they are a data center (first time I hear that). It looks funny to the point of tears! It is possible that it is located in a garage in a poor neighborhood of Berlin where mostly problematic people live. This is the only reason I see for them to hide their location. Every datacenter is proud of itself and wants people to hear about it to buy a place, rack, etc.. Very strange!
they do not offer colocation like other dc's. so no one needs to know where it is, but they are ISO 27001 certified and have regular security audits by german tüv.
ionos for example has a datacenter in baden baden in an old bunker where also no one from the outside can colocate as far as i know.
At least since Strato was aquiered by Ionos, I assume they use the same datacenters in Germany for their current vps lineup as Ionos. My freshly ordered Strato vps (first time ever I got Berlin from Strato) seems to be a neighbour of my already existing Ionos ones in Berlin.
ionos has also space in CarrierColo Berlin Luetzow (I/P/B/ site B. but strato has it's own dc. the head of the datacenter, Frank Schnabel, does not work or is affilated with carriercolo.
It must be a useless datacenter (small and unimportant).
That is the reason why they are ashamed to say his name and where he is in Berlin.
And maybe it is in fact 'CarrierColo Berlin' only what they don't want to say. They probably have one part (room) of 'CarrierColo Berlin'.
the end is nigh.
Brobably what you are saying is gright 😄
no, they have their own dc.
strato made a profit of 48.5 million euros in 2016 alone. then they were bought by united-internet and have grown even bigger since then.
go to any company in germany, to a doctor to a lawyer, no matter where and see where the websites, mails, storage, etc. are hosted. you will always find strato, ionos and hosteurope there. strato takes data protection very seriously. since they do not offer colocation services, nobody needs to know where the data center is. strato and ionos are the only ones who could even afford television advertising back then and still do.
ionos is also just a brand of united-internet. united-internet generated 5.915 billion euros in revenue in 2022.
Does anyone have a rack with them:
https://speedbone.de/serverhousing/server-housing-1he.html
I want to buy a VPS in their data center.
Lmao, you guys act like a terrorist couldn’t tail a staff’s car for 5 minutes and find the DC between breakfast and lunch
What is this answer?
I've seen and/or been involved in multiple DCs that are known only to a very few "hand-picked" persons. Some of them required anyone going in there or getting to know the address to sign an NDA beforehand (mostly employees because customers very rarely were (or requested to be) let in); in fact, some of those DCs only have one single customer who also is the owner. Think banks and finance, sensitive government stuff, major carriers, and the likes.
So your statement should correctly be "Every datacenter that wants (or even needs) to be known is proud of itself and wants people to hear about it to buy a place, rack, etc.."
For some however not to be known (as far as any possible) is their priority.
In the case of the DC with the video above however I think that the "totally secret, Nobody knows where it is" - along with the fact that there is a video about it on youtube - IMO strongly suggests that their "we are totally secret" is just a shop front, or worse, "smart" marketing.
Speedbones sister company prosite once sold vps and servers, but today they only seem to have webhosting.
You might want to check this one here: https://www.deltaphon.net/einsteiger-vserver.html (that is a different provider) and ask them about the dc and network they use. They claim to be in Berlin as well (the DC, not only the company) but I haven't checked where they house their servers (their colo page talks about 2 different DCs in Berlin they use but they do not name them).