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CrowdStrike update caused BSOD on hospitals, banks, servers worldwide
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It seems to be more legacy banks that are affected. Newer platforms seem to be fine. I don't think you can blame "the cloud" for this.
Because they are idiots. They never heard of *BSD or Linux. Many people think that paying a license fee makes things easier and the problems magically go away.
I'm conflicted on whether to be the first to turn on my work computer, or wait to hear whether there's screaming in the hallway.
Windows gets a very "nice" image from all this. If the marketing department at Microsoft can turn this around, they could insanely increase the sales of Windows 12.
It bothers me how the news outlets brand it a Microsoft issue, for example:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13651137/The-outage-world-seen-Microsoft-breakdown-sparks-chaos-planes-trains-grounded-GPs-NHS-mayhem-shops-closed-Premier-League-tickets-cancelled-banks-TV-channels-knocked-offline-massive-global-crisis.html
It's not a Microsoft breakdown.
It's a breakdown with third-party software...
I don't expect the vast majority of journalists to be savvy in this area, just sad to see Microsoft being blamed. They're not perfect, but they didn't break people's computers - a third-party did.
Yeah, let's make a contract for 150,000 machines via public procurement for Ministry or hospital, and then call hobbyists to fix potential issues.
Only among clueless people. Everyone else reads and understands that this is not Windows' fault and could happen to any OS.
A properly written AV recognition pattern would probably crash any OS as AV operates at the kernel level. Even in Linux, a poorly written kernel module can crash the system.
Azure is also experiencing unrelated issues at the same time, but I think non-technical news agencies are seeing this and bundling them into the same issue.
It was annoying watching BBC News and seeing them refer to it as a Microsoft issues, and the live expert trying to explain it's not a Microsoft issue.
Yes RIP
Breaking news.
Mac and linux users are feeling awfully smug.
I feel even more smug being the only Mac user in our team at work.
It's not? I think it's Windows refusing to boot because there is wrongly formatted driver file [granted provided by 3rd party] - shouldn't OS handle files like that and just skip it at boot rather than shit itself? ^.-
Plus some of those "it's Microsoft!!!" comes from https://azure.status.microsoft/en-us/status
Several months ago we had an issue where authentication was impacted, more than 100k users were affected globally, and everyone blamed it on Directory Services.
It was CS' policy that caused it
In an ideal world, Microsoft would have protected against it happening in the first place through better validation of the drivers, I agree. However, we don't live in an ideal world.
Seems like more could have been done on both sides, though I'd still place the majority of the blame on CrowdStrike. A lot of applications many of us use don't stagger updates for the fun of it..
All you say is true. However Microsoft should have seen and tested this beforehand. Once your update impacts something commercially big, you should have seen it. It was not a software update, it was an OS update which was likely done automatically in production environments (not manually by someone at their convenience after some basic testing at least).
And yes, hobbyists can say whatever they want. In this case it is also about employees from IT departments who know protocols and their implementations in operating systems. The later are not simply hobbyists.
This could happen to any OS. A properly written AV recognition pattern would probably crash any OS as AV operates at the kernel level. Even in Linux, a poorly written kernel module can crash the system.
I get your point but, you see, I don't care who the culprit is (MS, Crowdstrike, ...) or "legacy" (as opposed to what, "modern"?) banks, airlines, and other core infrastructure. I simply see a mindless obedient herd and the cloud. Whether that's like in "cloud VMs" or in "auto-update" (often from/via a cloud) or something else but similar I don't care.
Btw, a "legacy" bank is not in the cloud but runs their own IT infrastructure - as it should be. Because they are (a) mentally sane, and (b) a bank (as opposed to a "shareholder value" shit-show that just so happens to offer banking services instead of building ridiculously crappy multimeters, of course with lots of gadgets).
But again it's not just a "them" issue, it also is a "we" issue because (see my signature) the "smart citizens" herd is dumb and/or very easily remote controlled (e.g. by marketing). Sorry, but the fact that everyone is free to say what he thinks (or "thinks") does not mean that everyone actually is capable of thinking properly. Plus the other major factor: we don't like it and usually don't mention it but fact is that humanoids (incl. at the very top homo sapiens) are social beings, read they want - and frankly need - leaders to follow. That gets really ugly when the leaders are stupid, too - as this case so clearly shows.
No offense intended, only clarity and truth.
Microsoft... wait, what? It’s a third-party "application".
What does the OS development team have to do with every third-party program you might compile and run on your PC?
I’m not saying that Windows doesn’t have flaws, but parading around this issue as a Linux user, it just means that person is a clueless Linux user, as this could easily happen with any OS.
companies that outsourced IT completely
good luck with fixing
The update obviously blocked something which was previously allowed. And this was likely done automatically, because Windows does updates automatically.
Yes it could happen to any OS, but update is not done automatically with Linux. I am a proud Linux user. Thank you for calling me clueless.
Wonder, if this failure is the end for the crowdstrike?
CrowdStrike has a statement about Windows update. They found the issue in Windows update and solved it in their software, if customers can update CrowdStrike now.
That is a very good question. This is why competition is always good.
Microsoft says cause of outage at 365 apps and services fixed
July 19 (Reuters) - Microsoft (MSFT.O), opens new tab said on Friday that the underlying cause for outage of its 365 apps and services has been fixed, but the residual impact of cybersecurity outages are continuing to affect some customers.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-says-cause-outage-fixed-2024-07-19/
Yahoo seems down. (EDIT: it was brief.)
Interesting:
https://www.investing.com/news/company-news/crowdstrike-executive-sells-149-million-in-stock-93CH-3521972 (less than a week ago).
Yahoo website and mail work on my end.
Yeah, it was just a few minutes.
Yaawho?
Ou wow, smells like insider deal.
Handwritten boarding pass issued as system was down. Image taken from internet.