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A 40gbps and 100gbps -LowEnd- Non-Dedi Thread! Chime in with offers!

I thought it time, since several LET/LEB providers are now offering 10gbps nics at reasonable prices, to start a 40/100gpbs thread where providers could chime in!

I don't expect too many 100gbps offerings, but the 40gbps nics are dirt cheap, and lots of providers have them already.

Please note - ideally this thread is just for LowEnd KVM/VPS boxes. No dedicated servers, colos, or racks space offerings. There are plenty of great providers of those here, and they're easy to find.

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  • AS203446AS203446 Member, Patron Provider

    I don't think that that is going to happen.

    40GbE for interconnect between two servers is something you can expect, but not more than 10Gbps for VPS.

    Which provider would allow anyone to rent a VPS and use 40Gbps of their bandwidth?

  • jh_aurologicjh_aurologic Member, Patron Provider

    @AS203446 said:
    I don't think that that is going to happen.

    40GbE for interconnect between two servers is something you can expect, but not more than 10Gbps for VPS.

    Which provider would allow anyone to rent a VPS and use 40Gbps of their bandwidth?

    I was thinkering of doing so - to be honest, most VPS rarely dont use 100Mbps and blocking 40Gbps of capacity on the infrastructure, is costly, if you calculate with 100Gbps being at least a 8-10k invest on DWDM already.

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  • AdvinAdvin Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2024

    The speedtest server that you connected to in order to achieve 27 Gbps was hosted by Aeza themselves, so it was basically internal traffic (not external). We can also do that given that each of our host nodes is connected with 40 Gbps NICs and we run speedtest servers in some locations :)

    But in reality, KVM virtual machines are unlikely to go beyond past 20-25 Gbps, I assume there are some limitations with what a virtual NIC can handle in those cases. It doesn't make sense for a VPS to be using >10 Gbps anyways, that use case is very niche and handling those bursts are costly.

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  • AS203446AS203446 Member, Patron Provider

    @jh_aurologic said:

    @AS203446 said:
    I don't think that that is going to happen.

    40GbE for interconnect between two servers is something you can expect, but not more than 10Gbps for VPS.

    Which provider would allow anyone to rent a VPS and use 40Gbps of their bandwidth?

    I was thinkering of doing so - to be honest, most VPS rarely dont use 100Mbps and blocking 40Gbps of capacity on the infrastructure, is costly, if you calculate with 100Gbps being at least a 8-10k invest on DWDM already.

    Yes, exactly. Everything about 10Gbps is commitment-only here, that improves network quality and reduces congestion.

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  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Host Rep
    edited July 2024

    @jh_aurologic said:

    @AS203446 said:
    I don't think that that is going to happen.

    40GbE for interconnect between two servers is something you can expect, but not more than 10Gbps for VPS.

    Which provider would allow anyone to rent a VPS and use 40Gbps of their bandwidth?

    I was thinkering of doing so - to be honest, most VPS rarely dont use 100Mbps and blocking 40Gbps of capacity on the infrastructure, is costly, if you calculate with 100Gbps being at least a 8-10k invest on DWDM already.

    Exactly. I have numerous numerous vps nodes where customers have 10g vps. Sometimes one Peak Like 3-4g but Most of The time they are under 0,5-1gbit each. :lol:

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  • zGatozGato Member
    edited July 2024

    @Advin said:

    The speedtest server that you connected to in order to achieve 27 Gbps was hosted by Aeza themselves, so it was basically internal traffic (not external). We can also do that given that each of our host nodes is connected with 40 Gbps NICs and we run speedtest servers in some locations :)

    Yeah, just wanted to show it, even if internal traffic, not too bad. There are some locations that are not nearby UK (Hungary) where there's a 12 Gbps peak. That's their cheapest plan with only a single core and 2 GB of RAM, advertised 10 Gbps but can reach even more than that.

    EDIT: I'm doing a network test again right now, there's some 20 Gbps too ;)

    ---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
          A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2024.06.02
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 16 @ 4191.772 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 472.4 GB (1.7 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 31.3 GB (463.4 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 512.0 MB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 0 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-22-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : bbr
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
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     Primary Network    : IPv4
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : Aeza International LTD
     ASN                : AS210644 AEZA INTERNATIONAL LTD
     Host               : Aeza International LTD
     Location           : London, England-ENG, United Kingdom
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: EUROPE)
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     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server
    
     ISP: Aeza International
    
     Nearest          0.37 ms     0.0%    21100.61 Mbps  17156.87 Mbps  Aeza.net - London
    
     London, UK       13.43 ms    0.0%    6075.26 Mbps   6379.89 Mbps   RETN - London
     Manchester, UK   6.43 ms     N/A     9361.47 Mbps   9335.19 Mbps   Vodafone UK - Manchester
     Dublin, IE       10.55 ms    0.0%    5996.27 Mbps   7879.20 Mbps   Three Ireland - Dublin
     Amsterdam, NL    6.15 ms     0.0%    12653.92 Mbps  10903.55 Mbps  Melbicom - Amsterdam
     Paris, FR        11.15 ms    0.0%    19003.95 Mbps  7670.42 Mbps   Scaleway - Paris
     Marseille, FR    25.02 ms    N/A     7512.88 Mbps   3195.07 Mbps   ORANGE FRANCE - Marseille
     Madrid, ES       25.04 ms    0.0%    15253.71 Mbps  3328.18 Mbps   Orange - Madrid
     Barcelona, ES    FAILED
     Lisbon, PT       35.30 ms    0.0%    11738.39 Mbps  2358.29 Mbps   Edgoo Networks - Lisbon
     Rome, IT         FAILED
     Milan, IT        27.35 ms    0.0%    13038.93 Mbps  3028.52 Mbps   Fastweb SpA - Milan
     Zurich, CH       20.99 ms    0.0%    11829.81 Mbps  3984.46 Mbps   Sunrise Communication AG - Zurich
     Frankfurt, DE    13.77 ms    0.0%    6242.35 Mbps   6112.75 Mbps   31173 Services AB - Frankfurt
     Berlin, DE       15.12 ms    0.0%    9161.78 Mbps   5500.34 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - Berlin
     Vienna, AT       23.72 ms    0.0%    8059.25 Mbps   3511.30 Mbps   A1 Telekom Austria AG - Vienna
     Budapest, HU     26.94 ms    0.0%    6693.44 Mbps   3261.73 Mbps   ATW Internet Kft. - Budapest
     Gdansk, PL       31.59 ms    0.0%    3671.95 Mbps   2608.07 Mbps   T-Mobile Polska S.A. - Gdańsk
     Warsaw, PL       28.63 ms    0.0%    6404.84 Mbps   2890.47 Mbps   Orange Polska S.A. - Warsaw
     Lviv, UA         FAILED
     Kyiv, UA         41.43 ms    0.0%    5971.07 Mbps   1977.32 Mbps   O3 - Kyiv
     Bucharest, RO    FAILED
     Timisoara, RO    43.08 ms    0.0%    12753.17 Mbps  1984.42 Mbps   Digi
     Helsinki, FI     34.71 ms    0.0%    11280.12 Mbps  2363.79 Mbps   Elisa Oyj - Helsinki
     Stockholm, SE    26.64 ms    0.0%    12579.19 Mbps  3025.20 Mbps   i3D.net - Stockholm
     Oslo, NO         26.19 ms    0.0%    7637.50 Mbps   3101.15 Mbps   Telia Norge AS - Oslo
     Moscow, RU       45.57 ms    0.0%    8044.02 Mbps   1814.76 Mbps   MTS - Moscow
     Petersburg, RU   FAILED
     Istanbul, TR     50.95 ms    0.0%    8513.75 Mbps   1627.40 Mbps   Turkcell - Istanbul
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     Avg DL Speed       : 10024.08 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 4791.58 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 303.90 GB
     Total UL Data      : 130.90 GB
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  • Awesome! I honestly didn't expect this much feedback so quickly!
    Thanks!

    I entirely agree that sustained 10gbps+ is not a realistic use case. It doesn't make economic sense for providers to build, and while consumers always want more for less, most sit fairly idle, outside bursts.

    My $.02 on burstable: That is exactly the use case! Super low latency and high bandwidth increases actual throughput! Even if sustained usage isn't what providers engineer for, the user experience improvesI guess. (yes, rtt and where you're going are huge factors, but, it's a start!)

    Anyway, awesome to see providers engaging with details!

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  • PureVoltagePureVoltage Member, Patron Provider

    We have some VPS options coming out soon which will have 40G nics on the units itself some with 100G ports.

    The problem is offering those types of port speeds for the average budget costs is just not realistic and people expect to get those speeds all the time.

    Even with our 100TB on 10Gbps we have people expecting those to be dedicated and that they should be able to push 10G unmetered on everything the whole month. Not everyone is like this but a decent chunk of people do and that's on a dedicated server. A $10 a month VPS makes that more tricky to offer. Our plan is to offer a nice higher capped speed with higher bandwidth limits. We shall see. Most likely annual plans with higher caps maybe more appealing to offer.

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  • MoopahMoopah Member
    edited July 2024

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

  • kaitkait Member

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 2024

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

    I think we found @CheepCluck

  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

    I think we found @CheepCluck

    Do I have a multiple personality disorder?

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

    I think we found @CheepCluck

    Do I have a multiple personality disorder?

    I meant the man calling people ’nerds’

    But your theory is a good one too, do you?

  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

    I think we found @CheepCluck

    Do I have a multiple personality disorder?

    I meant the man calling people ’nerds’

    But your theory is a good one too, do you?

    I am CheepCluck/myself/kt/i/josh/treesmokah/me so could be.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

    I think we found @CheepCluck

    Do I have a multiple personality disorder?

    I meant the man calling people ’nerds’

    But your theory is a good one too, do you?

    I am CheepCluck/myself/kt/i/josh/treesmokah/me so could be.

    my i a m my/me/calin

    Regards

    Thanked by 1sh97
  • kaitkait Member

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @emgh said:

    @kait said:

    @Moopah said:

    Wow, that 8.51EUR/month plan with unmetered bandwidth has upwards of 27Gbits network speeds? That's insane, how do they afford it?

    Tax fraud I hope <3

    Thought bookkeeping was for "nerds" - sentenced to prison

    A 35-year-old man registered in Uppsala is sentenced to prison for one year and four months after he repeatedly cheated on his taxes and failed to keep accounts.

    https://unt.se/nyheter/uppsala/artikel/tyckte-bokforing-var-for-nordar-doms-till-fangelse/jopyv97r

    Average chad move, ngl.

    I think we found @CheepCluck

    Do I have a multiple personality disorder?

    I meant the man calling people ’nerds’

    But your theory is a good one too, do you?

    I am CheepCluck/myself/kt/i/josh/treesmokah/me so could be.

    my i a m my/me/calin

    Regards

    I love calin, he cute. Glad I can spend some quality alone time with him.

    Thanked by 2emgh eb1995
  • I'm pretty sure maxkvm was selling 40gbps VPS through datapacket leased servers...but that didn't seem to work out. Seems the dude died or something, I never was able to identify any owners of semiband llc who owned maxkvm. seems like a big fraud situation.

  • Jack_SBEJack_SBE Member, Patron Provider

    We run 100GbE to all of our VM hypervisors and have done for the past few years. Happy to do offers with 40GbE nic's in London as we have the capacity there where it could make sense.

    That being said it would cost significantly more than normal as we'd have to essentially reserve 40% of one of our HV nodes to give you the guaranteed burst.

    I don't really see any reality in where 40GbE VM nodes make sense for the provider, even advertising 10GbE VM's still seems to be a magnet for abuse right now.

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  • trungkientrungkien Member
    edited July 2024

    Interesting topic.
    Most of VPS & servers in my collection are now 10Gbps and above.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Advin said:
    KVM virtual machines are unlikely to go beyond past 20-25 Gbps

    Technically competent provider enables SR-IOV on the NIC and provides a PCI virtual function passthrough to each KVM.
    It's then possible to exceed 75 Gbps (dedicated cores needed).

    $7/month 100Gbps unmetered when?

  • LeviLevi Member

    That's a wet dream category: 100 Gbps + Low end. Some entire DCs run on 20 Gbps...

  • @yoursunny said:

    >

    Technically competent provider enables SR-IOV on the NIC and provides a PCI virtual function passthrough to each KVM.
    It's then possible to exceed 75 Gbps (dedicated cores needed).

    >

    This!
    (tho I've only seen ~60Gbps, but I blame other bottlenecks...)

  • @grooveuser said:
    I thought it time, since several LET/LEB providers are now offering 10gbps nics at reasonable prices, to start a 40/100gpbs thread where providers could chime in!

    I don't expect too many 100gbps offerings, but the 40gbps nics are dirt cheap, and lots of providers have them already.

    Please note - ideally this thread is just for LowEnd KVM/VPS boxes. No dedicated servers, colos, or racks space offerings. There are plenty of great providers of those here, and they're easy to find.

    Does anybody even have these? Top I’ve seen is 25Gbps… can anyone offer me better? I had a quick look about but couldn’t find much.

  • advinserversadvinservers Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2024

    Our Kansas City VPS is connected with a 40G port, but on a virtual NIC, I'm not sure you could reach that far.

    https://lg-mci.advinservers.com/

    This is running on a Kansas City VPS.

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  • @ilikebeans said:

    Does anybody even have these? Top I’ve seen is 25Gbps… can anyone offer me better? I had a quick look about but couldn’t find much.

    Where have you seen 25Gbps?!
    Granted, lots of the big clouds have 25/40/100Gbps nics, and many even do spot hourly pricing, which is nice, but I haven't really seen too many LET providers chime in...
    and the ones willing to even think about it have already piped up on this thread!

    @PureVoltage @advinservers @AS203446 @HostSlick @jh_aurologic :
    any updates or offers on the 10Gbps+ front?! :smile:

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  • @hosthatch is 40g everywhere iirc

  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2024

    @grooveuser said:

    @ilikebeans said:

    Does anybody even have these? Top I’ve seen is 25Gbps… can anyone offer me better? I had a quick look about but couldn’t find much.

    Where have you seen 25Gbps?!
    Granted, lots of the big clouds have 25/40/100Gbps nics, and many even do spot hourly pricing, which is nice, but I haven't really seen too many LET providers chime in...
    and the ones willing to even think about it have already piped up on this thread!

    @PureVoltage @advinservers @AS203446 @HostSlick @jh_aurologic :
    any updates or offers on the 10Gbps+ front?! :smile:

    HP Dedicated Server
    Dual e5 2680v4
    64GB DDR4 RAM
    2x1TB SSD with Hardware RAID

    Possible
    10Gbit, 2x10Gbit
    40Gbit

    10Gbit Unmetered 599€/m
    20Gbit Unmetered 1250€
    40Gbit Unmetered 2800€/m
    Higher, please inquire.

    Located in Netherlands

    Edit;
    Ignore this post. Just saw its non-dedi.

    So i dont have anything for you.

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