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0day in Linux (possible)

rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

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  • bootboot Barred

    $7

  • edited June 2024

    Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

  • MumblyMumbly Member

    @totally_not_banned said: Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

    Sounds like this recent, well-known exploit we already talked about:
    https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/29/linux_kernel_flaw/

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Mumbly said:

    @totally_not_banned said: Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

    Sounds like this recent, well-known exploit we already talked about:
    https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/29/linux_kernel_flaw/

    But it was related to 6.6.14, and now the post says that it's also working on 6.6.15.

  • MumblyMumbly Member

    @rustelekom said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @totally_not_banned said: Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

    Sounds like this recent, well-known exploit we already talked about:
    https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/29/linux_kernel_flaw/

    But it was related to 6.6.14, and now the post says that it's also working on 6.6.15.

    I see.
    Here is complete article https://thecyberexpress.com/use-after-free-vulnerability-in-linux-kernel/

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  • DataWagonDataWagon Member, Patron Provider

    @totally_not_banned said:
    Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

    Pretty scary for any company selling services on shared environments. Shared web hosting, game hosting, LXC / Docker containers, any sort of application hosting.

  • Are they really selling an LPE for $150K?

    I thought the going rate for a Kernel LPE was nearer $25K, or at least that's roughly what Zerodium is paying. If it's REALLY special, (or they're in need), then they'll go upto $50K but the price here seems way above market rate: https://zerodium.com/program.html

    Also, most people will screw up their permissions, leave a SUID binary or other error that negates the need for a Kernel LPE anyway so I'd say most LET users should be more worried about misconfigurations than overpriced 0 Days, (of which there are already many) 🤷‍♀️

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  • @rustelekom said:
    But it was related to 6.6.14, and now the post says that it's also working on 6.6.15.

    Then it's likely a bypass of the patch for 6.6.14, probably with a little extra heap grooming or whatever, which happens a lot

  • WolfWolf Member
    edited June 2024

    It can't be bothered to log into the forum, but someone just sent me a screenshot with a price of 350k… lol.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Wolf said:
    It can't be bothered to log into the forum, but someone just sent me a screenshot with a price of 350k… lol.

    Reseller? Heh...

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    We’re talking about a recently joined forum user with 16 posts? Or am I missing something?

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  • @DataWagon said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

    Pretty scary for any company selling services on shared environments. Shared web hosting, game hosting, LXC / Docker containers, any sort of application hosting.

    Sure. That's pretty much the definition of having untrusted users, which are able to run custom code, on the box ;)

    For all the lone admins or people only granted trusted people access to their systems the impact is negligible. Well unless what they are administrating something running something based on the mentioned container virtualization systems of course.

    By the way, does game hosting really regularly allow users to run custom code? I mean, i can see it with how some games realize modding but in general i don't see a reason to actually let users touch binaries at all.

  • WolfWolf Member

    @rustelekom said:

    @Wolf said:
    It can't be bothered to log into the forum, but someone just sent me a screenshot with a price of 350k… lol.

    Reseller? Heh...

    Mhh… na. We are old friends and don't do business. It looks like the price was updated / changed at some point.

    1.jpg

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Wolf said:

    @rustelekom said:

    @Wolf said:
    It can't be bothered to log into the forum, but someone just sent me a screenshot with a price of 350k… lol.

    Reseller? Heh...

    Mhh… na. We are old friends and don't do business. It looks like the price was updated / changed at some point.

    1.jpg

    Look as auction...

  • VoidVoid Member

    Is that Breach Forums ?

  • meatonmeaton Member

    @emgh said:
    We’re talking about a recently joined forum user with 16 posts? Or am I missing something?

    PoC was shown to a mod (IntelBroker), which gives it a little more legitimacy.

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  • coldcold Member

    congrats ! your 0day has been doubled

  • DataWagonDataWagon Member, Patron Provider

    @totally_not_banned said:
    By the way, does game hosting really regularly allow users to run custom code? I mean, i can see it with how some games realize modding but in general i don't see a reason to actually let users touch binaries at all.

    Minecraft hosts usually let you run a custom JAR file server binary I think? You can also usually install server plugins at the very least, which can probably be leveraged to get a shell, depending on a game.

  • @DataWagon said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    By the way, does game hosting really regularly allow users to run custom code? I mean, i can see it with how some games realize modding but in general i don't see a reason to actually let users touch binaries at all.

    Minecraft hosts usually let you run a custom JAR file server binary I think? You can also usually install server plugins at the very least, which can probably be leveraged to get a shell, depending on a game.

    Yeah, that's true. Minecraft probably still amounts to a huge part of the game hosting market. Quake and Source based games also (used to?) distribute their mods as native libraries but i don't think those have much of a modding scene worth catering to these days.

  • @CloudHopper said:
    Are they really selling an LPE for $150K?

    I thought the going rate for a Kernel LPE was nearer $25K, or at least that's roughly what Zerodium is paying. If it's REALLY special, (or they're in need), then they'll go upto $50K but the price here seems way above market rate: https://zerodium.com/program.html

    Also, most people will screw up their permissions, leave a SUID binary or other error that negates the need for a Kernel LPE anyway so I'd say most LET users should be more worried about misconfigurations than overpriced 0 Days, (of which there are already many) 🤷‍♀️

    i think there should be some cosideration that zerodium is a reseller/broker. very little is known about the buyers and how much they paid. i think most speculation is governments for their cyber capabilities.

    another consideration is this exploit is also being sold with the intent of it to be used for illegal activities that would produce a profit.

    im not making a point of the ethics but the legallity and why that affects the prices.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @totally_not_banned said:
    Local, so if it's real it has it's use cases but it isn't exactly that scary either unless there's untrusted users on the box, which are able to run custom code.

    OpenVZ rejoice.
    All your containers belong to me.

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