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That's not exactly what i meant to say. It's more about not being a common source of traffic at all even without there being any actual abuse. Basically what Outlook is doing to small scale mail servers: No established reputation? Off to the dump you go...
Well, i can see why people are annoyed when it happens while using a regular ISP (how far a corporate network qualifies here is somewhat debatable) but even then it's really just a fight against windmills. Sure you might pester this or that site into adding exceptions (which only serve you personally and maybe the other 5 guys on the same network) but the actual sources of those ratings will not change their ways so whatever you do there'll always be literal millions of sites left blocking you (and similar people). It's not ideal but in my opinion time is way better spent figuring out how to adapt. This is the modern internet after all and there's no reversing it.
Nope, I really don't..
Best I can tell, there is some database somewhere that says our IP block and/or ASN is bad..
Until I can figure out what it is, and maybe hope they fix it, all I have is one site at a time..
Some are more difficult than others.. Most are a simple email, bigger companies, getting past level 1 and level 2 support to find someone who actually understands, can be a challenge.
Sounds like the web browsed from a Hetzner IP
@totally_not_banned couldn’t have said it better myself. Companies will measure how much they gain vs. lose by their anti-bot measures. They’re completely fine with losing $1 worth of clients if $2 in abuse was stopped. That’s what I meant with ’numbers game’, there’s no moral involved here, nor is there any grudges towards any specific ASN or any specific person.
Websites that only partially work are much more annoying though..
Simply put, if their algoritm block your IP range or ASN, and they deem that they win more than they lose with their blocking solution as whole, you can always make it your mission to try to get whitelisted from site after site, but the issue remains, and you likely can’t change that, so either you deem the fighting time well spent, or, you adapt.
Well, if you are in central Europe i could give you a recommendation. It's actually quite cheap currently. Paypal, Ebay, Cloudflare and Maxmind approved (Paypal & Ebay might differ a bit if you aren't located in Germany though)
Well, what is adapting?
Asking the RIR for a different ASN and IP block? - Not going to happen
Not use the internet? - Also not going to happen
Running traffic through a VPN? - Possible but a huge PITA, especially for streaming services. But at least doable... Usually using a VPN will get one blocked from using a website, not the other way around..
If it helps, some Windscribe servers are labeled ’Windflix’ I believe, but yeah, I suspect finding a VPN that works for streaming everywhere and performs good might be hard.
Well, like i've said, the magic is in the actual numbers and with a tiny bit of setup won't even notice that you are using a VPN. Everyone connecting to my wifi or plugging into my router does regardless of whenever they want to or not
Edit: For sites sensible to such stuff you might want to make sure to not use a reduced MTU though.
Although, I can’t recall not being able to stream stuff with iCloud private relay/Cloudflare warp, but I also nearly don’t stream.
Cloudflare Warp passes your original IP along with the traffic, so sites that are expecting it, will still see the original IP..
Which is why it works well for Cloudflare protected sites. Non-Cloudflare sites is a coin toss what with the IP based tracking.
That was a long time ago
Which part?
The origin IP being included in the request. I believe it’s not nowadays.
Haven’t verified though.
Origin IP might still make a difference in captchas on Cloudflare sites somehow, I have no idea how that works. But I don’t believe it’s viewable to the site however.
Neat.
What will Cloudflare WARP accomplish?
VPN, same as any other.
My user agent is normal, nothing is faked.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:125.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/125.0The IP is a static Vultr IP address. Part of the reason I use wireguard, is that ISP routing is sometimes really slow, and it's much faster through wireguard. For example, without wireguard, sometimes a download will crawl, with an hour to complete. Connect to wireguard, and it's done in 2-3 seconds.
Site admins are free to do as they please and use Cloudflare to block visitors they don't like.
I am also free to do as I please, and ignore those sites (that I consider to be broken).
They're choosing to solve a problem by pushing their burden onto their visitors. I think that's a poor way to solve their problem, but their choice.
The problem that's now become mine, I choose to solve by not visiting those sites. I guess the site admin is happy because I'm not wasting their resources, and my life is more peaceful not having to deal with their annoyance. I guess it's a win-win situation, in a dystopian way.
Cloudflare warp no longer sends the origin IP.
my initial guess was they forced split tunneling in cloudflare subnets, and now they removed it/
The answer here is likely Vultr. Those cloud instances (pretty much like Hetzner's) just get abused to death by scrapers, exploit scanners and whatnot. I've moved my exit off of Hetzner for pretty much the exact same reason (a big mail provider(tm) outright rejecting to send my emails over their servers - i've been a client of theirs for literal decades with zero even just suspicious sending activity - just for being on a Hetzner IP is what drove me over the edge a couple years back) and i count myself extremely lucky to end up where i am currently (i initially wanted to move to IONOS, which probably wouldn't have been much better and just switched last minute to a provider i knew nothing about when IONOS's site confused me).
My VPN use grew out of necessity from using 4G connections where providers tried to prevent tethering, later because i had found a very cheap way to gain access to big ISP's(tm) wifi-to-go network (those home routers running public access points), which meant that i could legally leech internet of my neighbors at the expense of connecting through an open network and when that went away i used my already quite beefy wifi equipment to become a permanent guest on the free wifi of a shop a couple 100m down the road (until they got scared, tried to block me - good luck blocking a spoofed MAC address... - and finally just shutdown the open network). Good times.
These days i've mostly just become used to the upside of being able to connect from anywhere in the world without risking being locked for suspicious access. Also my IP reputation is so good that coming from the provider i'm currently using would likely be a straight downgrade, so why bother not running VPN when it's all done transparently at my router anyways?
TL;DR: If Cloudflare annoys you your best option is likely to look for a provider with better IP reputation.
Don't use an hourly-billing provider like Vultr as a VPN exit for general web browsing. I proxy some of my browsing via GreenCloudVPS and VirMach and have no issues with Cloudflare.
(I use hourly-billing providers to get around region blocks to watch the Olympics, though; being able to rotate IPs easily has so far worked to bypass anti-VPN blocks, for the last 3-4 Olympics.)
If I saw that user agent in my logs, I would block it as well.
So much hate to Linux users...
No, just entitled ones.
Combine it with a hourly VPS IP lol...
Dude literally makes effort to look like automated traffic.
So any Linux user using Firefox is an automated traffic in your opinion? Should they alter their UA to pretend a normie Windows user?
Nope, it's a numbers game.
Linux + Hourly VPN IP = mostly shit traffic. Do with that information as you please.
Well, they could try. Probably won't fix the issue though.
Yeah, pretty unlikely. My browser switches pretty evenly between claiming to be FF on Linux, Windows or MacOS. Doesn't really make any noticeable difference. Like i've said, claiming to be a wrong type of browser makes Cloudflare choke during captchas but as long as i report as some kind of Firefox (which is what i actually use) they are perfectly fine with it.
Regularly it doesn't to matter at all. I can report to be Edge on Windows and sites don't give a shit (even if i allow cookies and they could very well wonder why that browser that used to be Safari on MacOS 5 minutes ago just magically became Chrome on Linux).