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Congratulations to all workers on May 1st!

rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

In 1891, the first day in May was selected during the Marxist International Socialist Congress in Paris to be International Workers’ Day, a time when workers could unite and bring together industrial action. The first protest that took place was on the 1st of May 1886, when many workers went on strike across the United States, demanding an eight-hour working day.

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  • JosephFJosephF Member
    edited May 1

    Do you have to be a Communist to celebrate?

  • NanjaNanja Member

    In media and politics in the US. I sometimes hear the word Marxist. To me it seemed like the word Marxist was a word used as a political weapon. Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    I would've never guessed that there was more history to it, I thought it was just an insult in the political world.

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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    No, it is celebrated not only by members of the Communist Party. I guess it is celebrated for everyone who does not have $1000000 in their pocket (99% of the Earth's population).

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @Nanja said:
    In media and politics in the US. I sometimes hear the word Marxist. To me it seemed like the word Marxist was a word used as a political weapon. Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    I would've never guessed that there was more history to it, I thought it was just an insult in the political world.

    Unfortunately it is not only american thrend.

  • JosephFJosephF Member
    edited May 1

    @Nanja said:
    In media and politics in the US. I sometimes hear the word Marxist. To me it seemed like the word Marxist was a word used as a political weapon. Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    I would've never guessed that there was more history to it, I thought it was just an insult in the political world.

    Communism was always associated with Marxism.

  • Either way we'll enjoy the holiday together. A holiday is a holiday ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @JosephF said:

    @Nanja said:
    In media and politics in the US. I sometimes hear the word Marxist. To me it seemed like the word Marxist was a word used as a political weapon. Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    I would've never guessed that there was more history to it, I thought it was just an insult in the political world.

    Communism was always associated with Marxism.

    Yes, of course, Marxism can only be a curse word to some uneducated people.

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  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Happy celebration to all workers! Your constant dedication keeps the society united, allowing humanity to evolve.

  • RickBakkrRickBakkr Member, Patron Provider, LIR

    @JosephF said:
    Do you have to be a Communist to celebrate?

    According to Wikipedia the better part of the world celebrates this day ;-). Apart from us in The Netherlands who, together with Denmark, seem to be be only ones in the EU to be wishing you the best from within the office :-)

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  • @JosephF said:
    Do you have to be a Communist to celebrate?

    Definitely not! It's a holiday here in India.

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  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited May 1

    @JosephF said: Do you have to be a Communist to celebrate?

    Absolutely not.
    Where I live we celebrate labour day with bonfires as part of a longstanding tradition that predates modern labor movements. May 1st here has historical roots in pagan and agricultural rituals that mark the arrival of spring and the end of the harsh winter months.
    These bonfires have become a symbol of community solidarity and unity among workers. They provide a focal point for gatherings, where people come together to socialize, enjoy food and drink, and commemorate the achievements of the labor movement.
    It's basically one big party near a huge bonfire. Apart from Greta, who wouldn't enjoy that?

    It's my favourite holiday since childhood :) It would deserve its own "too good to be true deals - because we'd rather invest in you than in an ad campaign" special deals thread.

  • armandorgarmandorg Member, Host Rep
    edited May 1

    @rustelekom said:
    No, it is celebrated not only by members of the Communist Party. I guess it is celebrated for everyone who does not have $1000000 in their pocket (99% of the Earth's population).

    Why does it have to be 1mil$+ not to be included?

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @armandorg said:

    @rustelekom said:
    No, it is celebrated not only by members of the Communist Party. I guess it is celebrated for everyone who does not have $1000000 in their pocket (99% of the Earth's population).


    Why does it have to be 1mil$+ not to be included?

    Because such peoples has revenue exceed labor salary too much.

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited May 1

    @Nanja said:
    In media and politics in the US. I sometimes hear the word Marxist. To me it seemed like the word Marxist was a word used as a political weapon. Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    I would've never guessed that there was more history to it, I thought it was just an insult in the political world.

    "Marxist" is used as an insult in the US by right-leaning people towards left-leaning people.

    Karl Marx thought capitalism and private ownership led to inequality (which it does) and promoted a classless society. To be called a "Marxist" means you generally support these principles, or at least the person calling you a "Marxist" thinks you do.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @SirFoxy said:

    @Nanja said:
    In media and politics in the US. I sometimes hear the word Marxist. To me it seemed like the word Marxist was a word used as a political weapon. Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    I would've never guessed that there was more history to it, I thought it was just an insult in the political world.

    "Marxist" is used as an insult in the US by right-leaning people towards left-leaning people.

    Karl Marx thought capitalism and private ownership led to inequality (which it does) and promoted a classless society. To be called a Marxist means you generally support these principles, or at least the person calling you a "Marxist" thinks you do.

    I heard that Americans mostly use the word "commie". I doubt that anyone in America or anywhere else can clearly explain what Marx and his Capital are now. Education is too bad now for that.

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  • edited May 1

    Happy worker's day everyone!

    Bonfire's, rallies, riots... there's something for everyone ;)

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @rustelekom said: I heard that Americans mostly use the word "commie". I doubt that anyone in America or anywhere else can clearly explain what Marx and his Capital are now. Education is too bad now for that.

    "Commie" is out of date. Now we call radical leftists who want to bleed the country white with one hand and paint it red with the other "progressives".

    "I doubt that anyone in America or anywhere else can clearly explain what Marx and his Capital are now". So no one on the planet?

    I can explain Marx very well. Too a whole course on it at the U, plus it showed up in lots of other history courses.

    To summarize Marxism: it sucks. It's also impossible because of humans, so it's irrelevant to boot.

    @Nanja said: Like in heated debates in America, sometimes they shout the word Marxist to discredit the person they are debating with.

    What heated debates? It's discrediting even in academic discourse because it's a dead, failed fantasy. Even people who want to "look at history through a Marxist lens" or "analyze literature from a Marxist perspective" got bored with that schtick decades ago.

  • ArkPlrArkPlr Member

    is this valid for Ukrainians or Russia don't let it be?

  • edited May 1

    @raindog308 said:
    It's also impossible because of humans, so it's irrelevant to boot.

    Yeah, nothing against the old bearded guy (he made a couple good observations) but it takes little more than looking at how he proposes a dictatorship to achieve transformation into real communism and expects that to just proclaim "Well, job's done, we'll step down now." at some point (never ever going to happen in the real world) to realize that following his layout is bound to end badly.

  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    @raindog308 said:

    Marxism may be outdated, but humanity will always look for better ways.

  • GhtGht Member

    Congrats , the sheeps of this world , just continue work hard & hard then pay taxes with the money you earned hard , nobody cares.

    Just look where we are and we are payin taxes :smiley:

  • MumblyMumbly Member

    @Ght said: Just look where we are ...

    Who told you that? You've been misled. Trust me, I'm a scientist!
    In reality, we are here:

  • xvpsxvps Member

    @RickBakkr said:

    @JosephF said:
    Do you have to be a Communist to celebrate?

    According to Wikipedia the better part of the world celebrates this day ;-). Apart from us in The Netherlands who, together with Denmark, seem to be be only ones in the EU to be wishing you the best from within the office :-)

    Many workers in Denmark take a paid day off on May 1.

    There is some celebration but in the capital it being destroyed by a small group of free palestine protesters that is being loud, violent and makes the small kids cry.

  • bootboot Member

    Karl Marx, irony rings,
    Creates markdown for the masses,
    Capitalist tool.

  • ehabehab Member

    i have to aim this way

  • ehabehab Member

    it aint no party like @FlorinMarian party

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  • mikeimikei Member
    edited May 2

    In plain English, Marxism is about about cycles of evolution. As anything else, capitalism will die naturally. And it's about to die. It's now agonizing.That's why it's demonized by the middle and upper classes.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @mikei said:
    In plain English, Marxism is about about cycles of evolution. As anything else, capitalism will die naturally. And it's about to die. It's now agonizing.That's why it's demonized by the middle and upper classes.

    Capitalism == money driven ideology. Money will not die, it will evolve. Maybe you will start paying directly with your life force, who knows.

  • stefemanstefeman Member

    Its a holiday in Finland too.

  • mikeimikei Member

    @Levi said:

    @mikei said:
    In plain English, Marxism is about about cycles of evolution. As anything else, capitalism will die naturally. And it's about to die. It's now agonizing.That's why it's demonized by the middle and upper classes.

    Capitalism == money driven ideology. Money will not die, it will evolve. Maybe you will start paying directly with your life force, who knows.

    You wish.

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