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Bitninja VS Imunify360 VS OPSSHIELD (CPGUARD) experiences?!
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Bitninja VS Imunify360 VS OPSSHIELD (CPGUARD) experiences?!

ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member

Hey,

I just wondering what is the best cyber security software novadays.

What I tried:
Imunify360 - It was ok, sometimes web server went down due to modsecurity issues, and spam has been sent out. Malware detection is perfect.

bitninja - It is working better, no more spam, seperated from web server, if there are any issues happen you can just shutdown bitninja and everything is going to work. But sadly not all malware has been catched.

opsshield(cpguard) - I dont have any experience within it. Do you have?

Comments

  • LeviLevi Member

    Isn’t that bitnnja is run by some psycho extortionist?

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  • @Levi said:
    Isn’t that bitnnja is run by some psycho extortionist?

    well. their marketing was very aggressive, as I received abuse messages from netcup.de about bitninja found something on my server. But now things has been changed, and they dont do that. And seems like the software is good.

  • FatGrizzlyFatGrizzly Member, Host Rep

    @ZweiTiger said: Imunify360 - It was ok, sometimes web server went down due to modsecurity issues, and spam has been sent out. Malware detection is perfect.

    Imunify doesn't protect, nor claim to protect about outgoing spam protection.

    Their modsec is a bit meh, but has helped(for me) in several attacks.

  • LeviLevi Member

    Imunify seems is cloudlinux company, from ads looks like they selling snake oil. Bitninja and cpguard run by indians (punjabi?). Seek other alternatives. How about cxs?

  • Bitninja is utter crap

  • hcea520hcea520 Member

    debian (and iptables)

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • WiseWise Member

    Cpguard seems to be replacing some providers 360 installs recently

  • JorboxJorbox Member

    I’m using cpguard from a year now it’s working great, it does scan files on upload and have a good WAF and updated IP blacklist, I have contacted the support many times and they are very good to be honest

    Thanked by 1mobinguard
  • emghemgh Member, BF Ambassador

    @shruub said:
    debian (and iptables)

    nano (and wget)

  • hostkinghostking Member

    Our opinions:

    Bitninja - Great piece of software and protects pretty well but we left it as we had some customers complain they couldnt access our servers and within bitninja's interface and logs no issues were reported for their IPs. Was strange but became too problematic. If we disable bitninja all worked well and those customers could access fine.

    Imunify360 - Excellent malware protection but thats it. Modsec rules were not so good as we had many occurences where customers sites got hacked but then their malware would clean it up every day. Also their firewall is not as good as we had ALOT of outgoing spam issues. Too much. They offer ImunifyEmail not but costs extra.

    CPGuard - We using it now on most servers and no issues as yet as CSF where our experience is highly configurable. Their Malware.Expert Modsec rules are doing great and the IPDB protection is excellent. We checked and found alot of the IPs that were sending spam before with the imunify360 were listed and blocked on IPDB firewall on cpguard which was excellent. Malware scanning and cleaning seems okish too. Soo all in all it seems so far to be doing a better job than the other two for our company. No customers complaining that they are getting blocked anymore (Many of these customers have been with us for many many years. So very happy now.

    In my honest opinion. You have to test all 3 and see what is best for you and your customers.

    Thanked by 2ZweiTiger maverick
  • HostMayoHostMayo Member, Patron Provider

    CPGuard malware scanner is not as robust as Imunify. Why to go for Ninja when the price is the same and the interface not as intuitive as of imunify.

  • EthernetServersEthernetServers Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 8

    Something of potential interest to those running Imunify360:

    We recently started seeing massive CPU load average spikes on managed dedicated servers for a customer of ours - as in, the servers were running smoothly, load averages well under control and comfortably within operating limits of the processors.

    Then, out of no where, they all started having massive load spikes, 3-4x the usual.

    To cut a long story short, after working with the support team at Imunify360, it was because of a software update they released:

    DEF-28380 Make wafd not return splashscreen for requests from CloudFlare

    https://changelog.imunify.com/imunify360

    Their support team advised undoing that change:

    echo disable_splash_for_cloudflare=no > /etc/imunify360-wafd/wafd.conf; systemctl restart imunify360-wafd

    Ever since then, problem solved - everything is back to normal.

    Their comment for the reasoning behind that software update was as follows:

    Two releases ago we disabled splashscreen for requests coming from Cloudflare by default because some clients encountered an issue where actual visitors saw splashscreen cached on the Cloudflare side. This occurs rarely, but if that happens, the website administrator should clear the cache on the CF side.

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • hezekiahsharehezekiahshare Member
    edited June 8

    I would recommended to use two from three of them.
    ImunifyAV + CPGuard or ImunifyAV+Bitninja
    It was perfectly protection againts any online threats. Of course in additional u need run maldetect with additional database.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited June 8

    @ZweiTiger said:

    @Levi said:
    Isn’t that bitnnja is run by some psycho extortionist?

    well. their marketing was very aggressive, as I received abuse messages from netcup.de about bitninja found something on my server. But now things has been changed, and they dont do that. And seems like the software is good.

    Assholes don't change. Just search them in this forum and you would never trust your system with them.

  • IM360 VS CPGuard.

    hard to choose.

  • ZweiTigerZweiTiger Member
    edited October 21

    Okay, so tried all of them.

    Used bitninja for 2 years, imunify360 for 3 years, and Opsshield for 2 month. Very high load with bitninja & imunify360 , and very low load with Opsshield itself.

    CPU Load:
    Opsshield won. 60% usage went down to 20% , no more spikes.
    Bitninja caused high spikes.
    Imunify360 caused modsecurity related errors, many times, which caused high spikes.

    Dashboard:
    Opsshield UI is very nice, and easy to use without any bug.
    Bitninja has a buggy and hard to follow dashboard
    Imunify360 was straightforward, but slow.

    Captcha protection:
    Opsshield worked within a minute, and all wp logins are protected well, within any false positive.
    Bitninja never worked, or when worked then false positives are mostly occured many times
    Imunify360 , never saw a single captcha

    Security:
    Opsshield WAF is very good, and working well. Captcha is working well, features are very useful... no more hacked WP right now.
    Imunify360, there was many issues with SPAM itself, now they have a module, what I didnt tested yet. Lots of errors in modsecurity regarding rules, lots of false positives. I dont like it, totally unstable.
    Bitninja WAF is almost a non exist type. Or you can test it yourself, and maybe it will work, but actually not too much blocked. Many hacked wordpress happened, many. Also its dont detect viruses well.

    Theese are my experiences with 500 WP sites....

    What can I say overall?

    Bitninja is actually a piece of garbage, with many marketing stuff, actually Its good when you didnt tried the others.

    Imunify360 is good, but their version updates caused many many bugs, and errors, I just dont have time, what will happen.

    With Opsshield I finally found my solution.... where the updates are working, and where everything is working as expected. Without any sysadmin sucks.

    Thanked by 1khadhafi1083
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