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YukiChanYukiChan Member
edited April 24 in General

Hey, I was looking for one Domain registrar that ignore DMCA completely and out of US and EU laws.

Also what is recommended domain extension that are not controlled by ICANN and Verisign, US, EU?

.CO or .TO, .CH, others

Namecheap or namesilo, cnobin, any domain registrar doesn't matter?

Also we are only doing Anime and Game piracy to download as forum. Not a streaming or porn, child, cyber, botnet

**EDITED: **I am not asking for offshore hosting, I already have one offshore server

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  • CalinCalin Member, Patron Provider

    Hello , we are not a domain registry but if you are interested to a VPS for host this forum check our deals > https://panel.ihostart.com/index.php?rp=/store/vps-kvm-ssd , we are Ignore DMCA

    Regards,
    Calin

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  • @Calin said:
    Hello , we are not a domain registry but if you are interested to a VPS for host this forum check our deals > https://panel.ihostart.com/index.php?rp=/store/vps-kvm-ssd , we are Ignore DMCA

    Regards,
    Calin

    I already own offshore server, I was just looking for domain registrar safety as extension out of US and EU means that cannot be controlled.

  • Nicenic 100%

  • @sillycat said:
    Nicenic 100%

    Thanks! DM you

  • Probably also bizcn if things haven't changed too much over the last years.

  • PorlamPorlam Member
    edited April 24

    .ch/.li/.is?

  • bdspicebdspice Member

    @sillycat said:
    Nicenic 100%

    NiceNIC.NET is an ICANN, Verisign, Godaddy, HKIRC, gTLDs, ccTLD, new gTLDs Accredited Domain Registrar, and Hong Kong TOP Data Center,Alibaba Cloud, Baidu Cloud, Tencent Cloud cooperated Hosting & Server Provider, founded in 2006, based in Hong Kong, China.

  • YukiChanYukiChan Member
    edited April 24

    @totally_not_banned said:
    Probably also bizcn if things haven't changed too much over the last years.

    I tried to register this as an account but didn't work because the phone number doesn't get notified at SMS verification.

    @Porlam said:
    .ch/.li/.is?

    Yeah, that's good, what about the host domain registrar?

    • cnobin
    • web.z.com
    • ilovewww.com
    • hostcay.com
    • shinjiru.com.my
  • PorlamPorlam Member
    edited April 24

    @YukiChan said: Yeah that's good, what about the host domain registrar?

    flokinet.is/njalla/inwx are good I think

  • edited April 24

    cnobin is basically bizcn as far as i remember. Shinjiru is a good company but probably just resells domains. The others don't really seem overly confidence inducing (never heard of them at all - no idea if they are even accredited or just resellers too).

  • edited April 24

    @Porlam said:
    flokinet.is

    Island + DMCA usually don't mix very well. Free speech/privacy yes, copyrighted content rather not.

    inwx

    From what i get this is a German company. Personally i wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole for something like this.

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  • YukiChanYukiChan Member
    edited April 24

    @Porlam said:

    @YukiChan said: Yeah that's good, what about the host domain registrar?

    flokinet.is/njalla/inwx are good I think

    njalla only suspended people who spam or phishing. I think that is good. But they are allowed to piracy stuff like anime and games.

    I've asked Njalla support about anime and game piracy is allowed right? They said: Fine by me.

    Secondary I've asked njalla support about domain extension recommended.

    And Njalla support said: We don't do recommendations, because if the registry/registrar shuts it down, then people thinks our recommendations are wrong. So better for us to not do recommendations :)

    @totally_not_banned said:
    cnobin is basically bizcn as far as i remember. Shinjiru is a good company but probably just resells domains. The others don't really seem overly confidence inducing (never heard of them at all - no idea if they are even accredited or just resellers too).

    And I've asked cnobin support for extension recommended and anime / games piracy allowed?

    Cnobin support said: Dear Sir, Sorry, we do not have any recommendation for domain extension. Generally speaking, no matter what domain extension, as long as we receive abuse complaint about it, we will inform the reseller to check and remove those contents in certain period, however if our resellers refuse to take action and we have sufficient evidences, then action will be taken. Regards, Support Team

  • edited April 24

    @YukiChan I think you are being a bit blunt there. These are companies that will likely turn a blind eye to the complaints you receive but they are not going to necessarily support you doing shady stuff. Actually they don't want to know what you are doing at all because this way they cover their own ass.

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  • JasonMJasonM Member

    namesilo igones DMCA if you do not use their hosting or nameservers or email.

    Thanked by 1YukiChan
  • @totally_not_banned said:
    @YukiChan I think you are being a bit blunt there. These are companies that will likely turn a blind eye to the complaints you receive but they are not going to necessarily support you doing shady stuff. Actually they don't want to know what you are doing at all because this way they cover their own ass.

    I understand

    @JasonM said:
    namesilo igones DMCA if you do not use their hosting or nameservers or email.

    Oh really? Have you been using Namesilo for several years? If so then any extension doesn't matter right? Or I'll get .cc, .co, .vc, cx?

  • PorlamPorlam Member

    .cc is managed by verisign

  • edited April 24

    @YukiChan said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    @YukiChan I think you are being a bit blunt there. These are companies that will likely turn a blind eye to the complaints you receive but they are not going to necessarily support you doing shady stuff. Actually they don't want to know what you are doing at all because this way they cover their own ass.

    I understand

    @JasonM said:
    namesilo igones DMCA if you do not use their hosting or nameservers or email.

    Oh really? Have you been using Namesilo for several years? If so then any extension doesn't matter right? Or I'll get .cc, .co, .vc, cx?

    Well, i don't have much experience there but the original pirate extension is .to and from what i hear it's still going pretty strong after all these years.

    Edit: .vc is managed by Affilias, .cx by Planet Three Limited (UK/Australia), .co indirectly belongs to Neustar and .cc is (as @Porlam already posted) Verisign. Compared to these .to is probably easily better. .bz is at least actually administered from Belize and there used to be some pretty old sites but it obviously doesn't have the reputation of .to.

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  • In my experience, njal.la is the best offshore domain provider.

  • shruubshruub Member

    @bdspice said:

    @sillycat said:
    Nicenic 100%

    NiceNIC.NET is an ICANN, Verisign, Godaddy, HKIRC, gTLDs, ccTLD, new gTLDs Accredited Domain Registrar, and Hong Kong TOP Data Center,Alibaba Cloud, Baidu Cloud, Tencent Cloud cooperated Hosting & Server Provider, founded in 2006, based in Hong Kong, China.

    what the hell? Did you accidently get out your llm?

  • YukiChanYukiChan Member
    edited April 24

    @totally_not_banned said:

    @YukiChan said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    @YukiChan I think you are being a bit blunt there. These are companies that will likely turn a blind eye to the complaints you receive but they are not going to necessarily support you doing shady stuff. Actually they don't want to know what you are doing at all because this way they cover their own ass.

    I understand

    @JasonM said:
    namesilo igones DMCA if you do not use their hosting or nameservers or email.

    Oh really? Have you been using Namesilo for several years? If so then any extension doesn't matter right? Or I'll get .cc, .co, .vc, cx?

    Well, i don't have much experience there but the original pirate extension is .to and from what i hear it's still going pretty strong after all these years.

    Edit: .vc is managed by Affilias, .cx by Planet Three Limited (UK/Australia), .co indirectly belongs to Neustar and .cc is (as @Porlam already posted) Verisign. Compared to these .to is probably easily better. .bz is at least actually administered from Belize and there used to be some pretty old sites but it obviously doesn't have the reputation of .to.

    .to is almost like 30 euro,

    sav.com

    • .to €29.80

    namecheap.com

    • .to €28.20

    What do you suggest for a few extension lists?

    @Noah2002 said:
    In my experience, njal.la is the best offshore domain provider.

    They said they're allowed anime and game piracy. I think I can buy that, but I am worried so.

  • shruubshruub Member

    @YukiChan said:

    @ totally_not_banned said:

    @YukiChan said:

    @ totally_not_banned said:
    @YukiChan I think you are being a bit blunt there. These are companies that will likely turn a blind eye to the complaints you receive but they are not going to necessarily support you doing shady stuff. Actually they don't want to know what you are doing at all because this way they cover their own ass.

    I understand

    @ JasonM said:
    namesilo igones DMCA if you do not use their hosting or nameservers or email.

    Oh really? Have you been using Namesilo for several years? If so then any extension doesn't matter right? Or I'll get .cc, .co, .vc, cx?

    Well, i don't have much experience there but the original pirate extension is .to and from what i hear it's still going pretty strong after all these years.

    Edit: .vc is managed by Affilias, .cx by Planet Three Limited (UK/Australia), .co indirectly belongs to Neustar and .cc is (as @Porlam already posted) Verisign. Compared to these .to is probably easily better. .bz is at least actually administered from Belize and there used to be some pretty old sites but it obviously doesn't have the reputation of .to.

    .to is almost like 30 euro,

    Well, that's the price you pay for 90% safety/peace of mind. It's still relatively cheap, especially considering that buying though tonic.to (cutting the middleman), you'd only get that price for 10+, technically 25 years.

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  • ailiceailice Member

    @YukiChan said:
    They said they're allowed anime and game piracy. I think I can buy that, but I am worried so.

    AFAIK their reseller domain acts like proxy, didnt know its still relevant cause looks like they remove it on their website, but if you concern about domain ownership just make sure select ICANN accredited-one not proxy / reseller.

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  • shruubshruub Member

    @ailice said:

    @YukiChan said:
    They said they're allowed anime and game piracy. I think I can buy that, but I am worried so.

    AFAIK their reseller domain acts like proxy, didnt know its still relevant cause looks like they remove it on their website, but if you concern about domain ownership just make sure select ICANN accredited-one not proxy / reseller.

    To check which ones are icann accredited, check sarek.fi, it's them.

  • edited April 24

    @YukiChan said:
    .to is almost like 30 euro,

    Yeah, .to is not cheap. It's actually $50 when bought directly at www.tonic.to so these registrars are already giving quite a steep discount. Maybe it's worth to look for alternatives. .to has a lot of history in relation to link aggregators/trackers and a lot of massive sites used it often for years while large scale investigation against them was ongoing but i've also read that they might have gotten a little softer in recent years.

    Like i've said a really big local board used .bz for at least 10 years with seemingly no problems. They are offline now but it might as well just be that the community fell apart.

    In general you want some ccTLD of a country that's somewhat stable, administers it's toplevel domain itself and is as little internationally integrated as possible. Ideally one of the handful of countries that haven't signed into global copyright treaties, like for example - if it hasn't changed recently - Tonga aka .to.

    [Edit: According to Wikipedia Tonga is signatory to TRIPS and Berne for quite a while now so a couple treaties seemingly don't necessarily hurt to much]

    If you don't want host anything resembling porn or touching religion .ir (Iran) would be pretty much a jackpot as they don't care for international (especially western) copyright - you could basically openly host warez there and the only problem would be the massive bandwidth bill and probably shitty international connectivity.

    .la (Laos) is another of those countries i think but i'm not sure if they administer their extension on their own. Afghanistan (.af) and (i think?) Cuba (.cu) would be other candidates but i highly doubt you'd be able to get those at a somewhat affordable price - if at all.

    Just look around a bit and apply some common sense. Chances are you'll stumble accross something halfway decent and since your site is unlikely to instantly attract such an amount of attention that you'll be declared enemy number one with 1000's of people trying to take you down, so you probably don't need to get the 1000% ideal solution right now anyways. I mean which grey area site hasn't moved at least once or twice? ;)

    Here is a little reading material for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_international_copyright_agreements Rule of thumb: The less treaties the better (i have no idea if some are more important than others though - sorry i'm not that deep into the topic).

    Edit: Iraq seems to be another entry in the no (international) copyright at all list. Probably again not good for stuff touching porn or religion though.

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  • shruubshruub Member

    @totally_not_banned said:
    .la (Laos) is another of those countries i think but i'm not sure if they administer their extension on their own. Afghanistan (.af) and (i think?) Cuba (.cu) would be other candidates but i highly doubt you'd be able to get those at a somewhat affordable price - if at all.

    I think laos tld is actually administrated by some US country might be wrong. The latter would probably be pretty good if one can get them. Otherwise, have 2 domains with some pgp verification (to check if they are legit) for 10$ each. Probably fine (until you aren't)

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  • ailiceailice Member

    @shruub said:
    To check which ones are icann accredited, check sarek.fi, it's them.

    It looks they manage get some country-TLD stuff, but where their register like com/org-one cause I can see it on their pricing page.

  • shruubshruub Member

    @ailice said:

    @shruub said:
    To check which ones are icann accredited, check sarek.fi, it's them.

    It looks they manage get some country-TLD stuff, but where their register like com/org-one cause I can see it on their pricing page.

    Tucows and/or InternetBS iirc.

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  • edited April 24

    Scrolled through the list real quick and the only zero (international) copyright countries left seem to be (if i didn't miss anything): South Sudan, Somalia, Palau, Iraq, Iran, Eritrea. Even Afghanistan joined a couple years ago. It's crazy how interconnected the world really is these days.

    The most easy to get would likely be Palau (.pw - the horrid professional web shit) but their extension is sadly administered by Central Nic Directi, i think. Somalia (.so) is also somewhat common but i remember some tracker moving there and it wasn't much of a success. I'm not sure if it was due to administrative problems or just bad technical reliability (which both might have changed by now anyways - African countries are pretty quick to evolve sometimes after all) though. In any case i remember than doing the administration themself.

    There's probably also a couple un- or partly recognized territories that haven't signed anything (i don't see Kosovo anywhere for example) but chances are these also have no official extensions.

  • shruubshruub Member

    @totally_not_banned said:
    There's probably also a couple un- or partly recognized territories that haven't signed anything (i don't see Kosovo anywhere for example) but chances are these also have no official extensions.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xk Progress on that TLD is almost as fast as the LET AI-Post rule and c1v's datacenter pics.

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  • edited April 24

    @shruub said:

    @ailice said:

    @shruub said:
    To check which ones are icann accredited, check sarek.fi, it's them.

    It looks they manage get some country-TLD stuff, but where their register like com/org-one cause I can see it on their pricing page.

    InternetBS

    I miss the days when InternetBS was still really InternetBS. Damn those pharma white knights... :(

    @shruub said:

    @totally_not_banned said:
    There's probably also a couple un- or partly recognized territories that haven't signed anything (i don't see Kosovo anywhere for example) but chances are these also have no official extensions.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xk Progress on that TLD is almost as fast as the LET AI-Post rule and c1v's datacenter pics.

    Well, almost ;)

    Pretty crazy though, i had never heard of those temporary ISO codes before.

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