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RocketChat/Nextcloud alternatives that don't suck?
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RocketChat/Nextcloud alternatives that don't suck?

Does anyone have suggestions for open source private Chat/CRM-like solutions that aren't trash?

RocketChat now charges per user for Push Notifications, (and it also requires you to connect your private instance to their servers), whilst Nextcloud is just straight up garbage, so what are the other options?

I'm looking for a genuinely private chat server, (with incoming/outgoing webhooks), and a shared Productivity solution for a small team, (calendar, notes/tasks etc).

Any and all sensible suggestions welcomed 😎

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  • I am using Matter most from last 2 years for the team of approx. 10 .
    It works very well on buyvm 1G instance + 250Gb slab.

    Thanked by 1CloudHopper
  • I don't think there are non-garbage solutions to this problem.

    You can try Matrix for chat.

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  • BruhGamer12BruhGamer12 Member
    edited April 23

    Tor has a recently updated software called onionshare which lets you chat, host a website, and share files all in the app on any platform over tor and locally hosted . But that is not exactly what you asked but maybe an option to combine in with another solution.

  • @karanchoo said:
    I am using Matter most from last 2 years for the team of approx. 10 .
    It works very well on buyvm 1G instance + 250Gb slab.

    Looks good, I'll definitely give it a shot: https://mattermost.com/

  • @ehhthing said:
    I don't think there are non-garbage solutions to this problem.

    You can try Matrix for chat.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I've found this Matrix-based solution which looks promising. Apparently it's being used by various Western governments/militaries so it must be battle tested: https://element.io/

  • @BruhGamer12 said:
    Tor has a recently updated software called onionshare which lets you chat, host a website, and share files all in the app on any platform over tor and locally hosted . But that is not exactly what you asked but maybe an option to combine in with another solution.

    Very interesting. This scenario is for a trusted network of peers, but I have other use cases for untrusted peers where this would be perfect 👍

  • CabbageCabbage Member
    edited April 23

    There's also XMPP, which is, compared to Matrix, a bit basic, but has been around for longer. It has encryption support too. Matrix is pretty good, but one thing I would be careful with Matrix is that its decryption is a bit dodgy. Not that it's insecure, but you occasionally end up with "Unable to decrypt" error messages in chat, and it can be somewhat annoying to troubleshoot. Make sure you back up decryption materials.

  • @BruhGamer12 said:
    Tor has a recently updated software called onionshare which lets you chat, host a website, and share files all in the app on any platform over tor and locally hosted . But that is not exactly what you asked but maybe an option to combine in with another solution.

    The onionshare codebase is not great. Would probably recommend something else to be honest.

  • tjntjn Member
    edited April 23

    @karanchoo said:
    I am using Matter most from last 2 years for the team of approx. 10 .

    I tried it a few years ago and the push notifications on iOS were hit or miss. Are you finding mobile notifications reliable on the free version?

  • @CloudHopper said:

    @karanchoo said:
    I am using Matter most from last 2 years for the team of approx. 10 .
    It works very well on buyvm 1G instance + 250Gb slab.

    Looks good, I'll definitely give it a shot: https://mattermost.com/

    My company uses Mattermost. Its quite slow unless you're hosting it locally.

  • Using email with Deltachat? https://delta.chat/ or maybe some Nostr[1] app like https://0xchat.com/

    [1] https://nostr.net/

  • shruubshruub Member

    owncloud /s

  • Tailchat + seafile Very quick combination

  • qpsqps Member, Host Rep

    We use Mattermost self-hosted and have for a little over 2 years. It works really well.

  • rcy026rcy026 Member

    @danblaze said:
    Tailchat + seafile Very quick combination

    Never seen Tailchat before, but it looks a lot like Mattermost.
    Has anyone used both and can verify if there are any differences?

  • seenuseenu Member

    we use mattermost with gitlab integration so single sign on for both, works very well.

    notifications i never observed but overall its a good product.

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