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  • ehabehab Member
    edited April 8

    GET 100% FREE

    is what i want from he gugu

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • expensive

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    Yes considering the specs.

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • ehabehab Member
    edited April 8

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    I WANT 100% FRee from the gugu

    @yoursunny do nude pushups for the gugu

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 8

    @anubhavhirani said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    Yes considering the specs.

    We cater to the privacy minded people and Monero enthusiasts, and are already one of the cheapest option for non KYC hosting provider.

    But if this is not something you are interested in, you can certainly find cheaper options.

  • ehabehab Member

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

  • @servers_guru said:

    @anubhavhirani said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    Yes considering the specs.

    We cater to the privacy minded people and Monero enthusiasts, and are already one of the cheapest option for non KYC hosting provider.

    But if this is not something you are interested in, you can certainly find cheaper options.

    Makes sense. :)

  • Ehh I don't think it's bad plus it's always nice to have extra people in the anonymous hosting business. I think its close to what other companies offer for their unlimited anonymous hosting.

    Thanked by 1servers_guru
  • @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    valid for the first billing term

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    @hyperblast said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    valid for the first billing term

    Billing term can be 1 year which include 1 month free and 50% on top of that.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    is it really €27.45 per year
    OR
    is it €27.45 first year and then €54.90 per year

    it is amazing how selective information is presented.

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 8

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    is it really €27.45 per year
    OR
    is it €27.45 first year and then €54.90 per year

    it is amazing how selective information is presented.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. As stated in the post it's 27.45 for the first year.

    I wrote / year in the comment above to show the price we advertise here. It's written pretty clearly that it apply for the 1st billing term.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @servers_guru said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    is it really €27.45 per year
    OR
    is it €27.45 first year and then €54.90 per year

    it is amazing how selective information is presented.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. As stated in the post it's 27.45 for the first year.

    I wrote / year in the comment above to show the price we advertise here. It's written pretty clearly that it apply for the 1st billing term.

    /year can not be used with promotional pricing that is term limited

    unless First year only is accompanied in the same line

    You are running a business and customers are entitled to transparency.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @HostMonit said:
    expensive

    27.45 euros / year for unmetered VPS is expensive ?

    is it really €27.45 per year
    OR
    is it €27.45 first year and then €54.90 per year

    it is amazing how selective information is presented.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. As stated in the post it's 27.45 for the first year.

    I wrote / year in the comment above to show the price we advertise here. It's written pretty clearly that it apply for the 1st billing term.

    /year can not be used with promotional pricing that is term limited

    unless First year only is accompanied in the same line

    You are running a business and customers are entitled to transparency.

    It is stated in the very first line of the post. In massive bold characters.

    I'll make sure to mention it in the future in comments as well to avoid confusion.

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited April 8

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 8

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited April 8

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 8

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

  • @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Well, not exactly, you have in Europe the DSA (Digital Services Act) clearly your provider is Hetzner thats the reason they have this KYC is they want to comply with the DSA. So that's why I ask because eventually one of your clients will get some sort of legal problem, and if Hetzner gets air of this they will terminate your service because you don't have KYC at your website. And with KYC I don't mean you have to send pictures of yourself holding you passport I mean just an contact address and name just basic stuff, also because you advertise like this privacy host and your just reselling Hetzner cloud you will attract certain people, that are mostly people that Hetzner does not want to have as customer. So my oberservation is I think in the future you will get lots of problems with your hoster.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

    You are a skill full person you website look slick, I don't have a service with you so I cannot say anything about panel or so.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited April 8

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Have you taken professional advice from attorney who deals with such laws for hosting providers in Germany and USA?

    By looking at the grammatical mistakes of your TOS section, I doubt those were written by a professional either

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 8

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Well, not exactly, you have in Europe the DSA (Digital Services Act) clearly your provider is Hetzner thats the reason they have this KYC is they want to comply with the DSA. So that's why I ask because eventually one of your clients will get some sort of legal problem, and if Hetzner gets air of this they will terminate your service because you don't have KYC at your website. And with KYC I don't mean you have to send pictures of yourself holding you passport I mean just an contact address and name just basic stuff, also because you advertise like this privacy host and your just reselling Hetzner cloud you will attract certain people, that are mostly people that Hetzner does not want to have as customer. So my oberservation is I think in the future you will get lots of problems with your hoster.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

    You are a skill full person you website look slick, I don't have a service with you so I cannot say anything about panel or so.

    The requirements for customers identification in the DSA framework does not apply to hosting providers which are not "online platforms".

    The definition of online platform in the context of the DSA is : "Online platforms are defined in the DSA as providers of hosting services that publicly disseminate users’ information"

    The DSA requirement for hosting providers which are not online platform is mainly about how to handle illegal content.

    You can check more about it here : https://www.orrick.com/en/Insights/2022/10/Europes-Digital-Services-Act-DSA-is-Approved-What-You-Need-to-Know

    Regarding the type of customers we attract, we of course have abuse happening. However we handle them quickly and we have been running our hosting services for over 3 years without any issues with Hetzner. We now have hundreds of servers with them.

    We also have our own tools to prevent abuse and to react as quickly as possible.

    Thank you for your feedback about our website :)

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Have you taken professional advice from attorney who deals with such laws for hosting providers in Germany and USA?

    By looking at the grammatical mistakes of your TOS section, I doubt those were written by a professional either

    Please see my comment above. If you find any grammatical mistakes, we'll be happy to correct them if you report them to us.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @servers_guru said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Have you taken professional advice from attorney who deals with such laws for hosting providers in Germany and USA?

    By looking at the grammatical mistakes of your TOS section, I doubt those were written by a professional either

    Please see my comment above.
    If you find any grammatical mistakes, we'll be happy to correct them if you report them to us.

    There are many grammatical mistakes. Please contact your copy writer (may be called proof reader in your region)

    Thanked by 1servers_guru
  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited April 8

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Well, not exactly, you have in Europe the DSA (Digital Services Act) clearly your provider is Hetzner thats the reason they have this KYC is they want to comply with the DSA. So that's why I ask because eventually one of your clients will get some sort of legal problem, and if Hetzner gets air of this they will terminate your service because you don't have KYC at your website. And with KYC I don't mean you have to send pictures of yourself holding you passport I mean just an contact address and name just basic stuff, also because you advertise like this privacy host and your just reselling Hetzner cloud you will attract certain people, that are mostly people that Hetzner does not want to have as customer. So my oberservation is I think in the future you will get lots of problems with your hoster.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

    You are a skill full person you website look slick, I don't have a service with you so I cannot say anything about panel or so.

    The requirements for customers identification in the DSA framework does not apply to hosting providers which are not "online platforms".

    The definition of online platform in the context of the DSA is : "Online platforms are defined in the DSA as providers of hosting services that publicly disseminate users’ information"

    The DSA requirement for hosting providers which are not online platform is mainly about how to handle illegal content.

    You can check more about it here : https://www.orrick.com/en/Insights/2022/10/Europes-Digital-Services-Act-DSA-is-Approved-What-You-Need-to-Know

    Regarding the type of customers we attract, we of course have abuse happening. However we handle them quickly and we have been running our hosting services for over 3 years without any issues with Hetzner. We now have hundreds of servers with them.

    We also have our own tools to prevent abuse and to react as quickly as possible.

    Thank you for your feedback about our website :)

    This is an Article from 2022, they changed the DSA in 2023, anyway for sure it will go good for some time, but eventually you gonna hit a wall with this and it will end bad for your customers, also I can see you are a registered LLC do they not have laws about this in the USA ? I think it's even more strict then in the EU. I suggest you setup your own network with own servers.

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Well, not exactly, you have in Europe the DSA (Digital Services Act) clearly your provider is Hetzner thats the reason they have this KYC is they want to comply with the DSA. So that's why I ask because eventually one of your clients will get some sort of legal problem, and if Hetzner gets air of this they will terminate your service because you don't have KYC at your website. And with KYC I don't mean you have to send pictures of yourself holding you passport I mean just an contact address and name just basic stuff, also because you advertise like this privacy host and your just reselling Hetzner cloud you will attract certain people, that are mostly people that Hetzner does not want to have as customer. So my oberservation is I think in the future you will get lots of problems with your hoster.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

    You are a skill full person you website look slick, I don't have a service with you so I cannot say anything about panel or so.

    The requirements for customers identification in the DSA framework does not apply to hosting providers which are not "online platforms".

    The definition of online platform in the context of the DSA is : "Online platforms are defined in the DSA as providers of hosting services that publicly disseminate users’ information"

    The DSA requirement for hosting providers which are not online platform is mainly about how to handle illegal content.

    You can check more about it here : https://www.orrick.com/en/Insights/2022/10/Europes-Digital-Services-Act-DSA-is-Approved-What-You-Need-to-Know

    Regarding the type of customers we attract, we of course have abuse happening. However we handle them quickly and we have been running our hosting services for over 3 years without any issues with Hetzner. We now have hundreds of servers with them.

    We also have our own tools to prevent abuse and to react as quickly as possible.

    Thank you for your feedback about our website :)

    This is an Article from 2022, they changed the DSA in 2023, anyway for sure it will go good for some time, but eventually you gonna hit a wall with this and it will end bad for your customers, also I can see you are a registered LLC do they not have laws about this in the USA ? I think it's even more strict then in the EU. I suggest you setup your own network with own servers.

    I'm not aware that anything changed regarding this requirement. If you have a link stating something different, feel free to send it to me so we can review it.

  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited April 8

    @dev_vps said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Have you taken professional advice from attorney who deals with such laws for hosting providers in Germany and USA?

    Yeah, this is exactly my point.

    By looking at the grammatical mistakes of your TOS section, I doubt those were written by a professional either

    Stil I think he/she is a skill full person, think this is a one man show.

  • @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @servers_guru said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Well, not exactly, you have in Europe the DSA (Digital Services Act) clearly your provider is Hetzner thats the reason they have this KYC is they want to comply with the DSA. So that's why I ask because eventually one of your clients will get some sort of legal problem, and if Hetzner gets air of this they will terminate your service because you don't have KYC at your website. And with KYC I don't mean you have to send pictures of yourself holding you passport I mean just an contact address and name just basic stuff, also because you advertise like this privacy host and your just reselling Hetzner cloud you will attract certain people, that are mostly people that Hetzner does not want to have as customer. So my oberservation is I think in the future you will get lots of problems with your hoster.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

    You are a skill full person you website look slick, I don't have a service with you so I cannot say anything about panel or so.

    The requirements for customers identification in the DSA framework does not apply to hosting providers which are not "online platforms".

    The definition of online platform in the context of the DSA is : "Online platforms are defined in the DSA as providers of hosting services that publicly disseminate users’ information"

    The DSA requirement for hosting providers which are not online platform is mainly about how to handle illegal content.

    You can check more about it here : https://www.orrick.com/en/Insights/2022/10/Europes-Digital-Services-Act-DSA-is-Approved-What-You-Need-to-Know

    Regarding the type of customers we attract, we of course have abuse happening. However we handle them quickly and we have been running our hosting services for over 3 years without any issues with Hetzner. We now have hundreds of servers with them.

    We also have our own tools to prevent abuse and to react as quickly as possible.

    Thank you for your feedback about our website :)

    This is an Article from 2022, they changed the DSA in 2023, anyway for sure it will go good for some time, but eventually you gonna hit a wall with this and it will end bad for your customers, also I can see you are a registered LLC do they not have laws about this in the USA ? I think it's even more strict then in the EU. I suggest you setup your own network with own servers.

    I'm not aware that anything changed regarding this requirement. If you have a link stating something different, feel free to send it to me so we can review it.

    It's changed frequently, also there is a whole chapter about KYC and also you are not allowed to do this because you sell digital goods, so also you need to apply KYC. I think @dev_vps asks some valid questions above did you counsel a lawyer ?

  • servers_guruservers_guru Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 8

    @WhiteRoseG said:

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    @ehab said:

    Monero

    marlboro 05

    i will stop goofing around here... unless @yoursunny posts something.

    Can I join ? Can OP explain to me what is the difference when I buy directly at Hetzner ? This is exactly the cloudline from Hetzner. I don't get this.

    We add a no kyc, privacy layer on top of the cloud line of hetzner and we also accept crypto.

    But is it not illegal if 1 company ask for kyc because of European law and then someone else is reselling that without kyc, don't you think this will get your service suspended eventually? I really don't see what is more private about is exept costing more money instead of going directly to Hetzner, it just doesn't make sense.

    Additionally our unmetered servers are not from hetzner. And are our own virtualization stack.

    Oke, that looks good ! Bit expensive but good.

    Kyc is not mandatory for hosting providers. Only for financial institution as well as other related businesses.

    Well, not exactly, you have in Europe the DSA (Digital Services Act) clearly your provider is Hetzner thats the reason they have this KYC is they want to comply with the DSA. So that's why I ask because eventually one of your clients will get some sort of legal problem, and if Hetzner gets air of this they will terminate your service because you don't have KYC at your website. And with KYC I don't mean you have to send pictures of yourself holding you passport I mean just an contact address and name just basic stuff, also because you advertise like this privacy host and your just reselling Hetzner cloud you will attract certain people, that are mostly people that Hetzner does not want to have as customer. So my oberservation is I think in the future you will get lots of problems with your hoster.

    We don't ask for customer information, we accept crypto, we don't use cookies or any other 3rd party tracking tools.

    This is a lot of value added for our targeted customer base.

    You are a skill full person you website look slick, I don't have a service with you so I cannot say anything about panel or so.

    The requirements for customers identification in the DSA framework does not apply to hosting providers which are not "online platforms".

    The definition of online platform in the context of the DSA is : "Online platforms are defined in the DSA as providers of hosting services that publicly disseminate users’ information"

    The DSA requirement for hosting providers which are not online platform is mainly about how to handle illegal content.

    You can check more about it here : https://www.orrick.com/en/Insights/2022/10/Europes-Digital-Services-Act-DSA-is-Approved-What-You-Need-to-Know

    Regarding the type of customers we attract, we of course have abuse happening. However we handle them quickly and we have been running our hosting services for over 3 years without any issues with Hetzner. We now have hundreds of servers with them.

    We also have our own tools to prevent abuse and to react as quickly as possible.

    Thank you for your feedback about our website :)

    This is an Article from 2022, they changed the DSA in 2023, anyway for sure it will go good for some time, but eventually you gonna hit a wall with this and it will end bad for your customers, also I can see you are a registered LLC do they not have laws about this in the USA ? I think it's even more strict then in the EU. I suggest you setup your own network with own servers.

    I'm not aware that anything changed regarding this requirement. If you have a link stating something different, feel free to send it to me so we can review it.

    It's changed frequently, also there is a whole chapter about KYC and also you are not allowed to do this because you sell digital goods, so also you need to apply KYC. I think @dev_vps asks some valid questions above did you counsel a lawyer ?

    Of course we consulted a lawyer when we incorporated.

    digital goods do not require KYC.

    I think you are mistaking it with VASP (Virtual asset service providers) which doesn't apply to hosting providers. There is no KYC obligation for selling digital goods.

    The DSA did not change in 2023, only its application went from VLOP to everyone.

    I think we start to derail out of topic here..

  • Your are platform provider right ? Or is a hoster not a platform provider, so Hetzner is wrong because it's not a platform provider this is what you are saying right ?

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