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Can we update the Rules to require minimum Geekbench scores to sell it as VPS

NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
edited February 21 in General

Otherwise just sell it as door stopper or so.
77 Geekbench is the worst I have ever seen so far.

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#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2024-01-01                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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Wed Feb 21 09:36:33 PM MSK 2024

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 37 minutes
Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v4 @ 2.30GHz
CPU cores  : 1 @ 2299.998 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 457.5 MiB
Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
Disk       : 5.8 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-18-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : BFB ONE FZ-LLC
ASN        : AS59878 BFB ONE FZ-LLC
Host       : BFB ONE FZ-LLC
Location   : Dubai, Dubai (DU)
Country    : United Arab Emirates

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 8.50 MB/s     (2.1k) | 9.79 MB/s      (153)
Write      | 8.54 MB/s     (2.1k) | 10.26 MB/s     (160)
Total      | 17.04 MB/s    (4.2k) | 20.06 MB/s     (313)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 9.23 MB/s       (18) | 9.08 MB/s        (8)
Write      | 10.21 MB/s      (19) | 10.23 MB/s       (9)
Total      | 19.44 MB/s      (37) | 19.32 MB/s      (17)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 10.4 Mbits/sec  | 7.17 Mbits/sec  | 114 ms         
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 9.75 Mbits/sec  | 128 ms         
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 10.9 Mbits/sec  | 9.65 Mbits/sec  | 117 ms         
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 10.7 Mbits/sec  | 6.64 Mbits/sec  | 215 ms         
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 10.5 Mbits/sec  | 7.66 Mbits/sec  | 192 ms         
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 10.4 Mbits/sec  | 7.68 Mbits/sec  | 217 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 10.3 Mbits/sec  | 7.79 Mbits/sec  | 246 ms         

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 10.7 Mbits/sec  | 7.01 Mbits/sec  | 114 ms         
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 9.65 Mbits/sec  | 119 ms         
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 10.1 Mbits/sec  | 9.54 Mbits/sec  | 117 ms         
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 10.7 Mbits/sec  | 7.29 Mbits/sec  | 215 ms         
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 10.5 Mbits/sec  | 7.54 Mbits/sec  | 192 ms         
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 8.51 Mbits/sec  | 7.57 Mbits/sec  | 217 ms         
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 8.23 Mbits/sec  | busy            | 250 ms         

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value                         
                |                               
Single Core     | 77                            
Multi Core      | 74                            
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/22244876

YABS completed in 36 min 18 sec
Thanked by 2_MS_ dragon1993
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Comments

  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    Scummy providers will just fake it, or use the one saved from first run on an empty node.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @MannDude said:
    Scummy providers will just fake it, or use the one saved from first run on an empty node.

    Users report the Provider, if said Provider has x reports, he can't sell anymore on LET.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

    My lord. I don't know what is worse, if they are throttling so bad or if the systems are being abused so bad?

    Thanked by 1Svensken
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @MikeA said:
    My lord. I don't know what is worse, if they are throttling so bad or if the systems are being abused so bad?

    Both its capped and Oversold.

    Thanked by 2host_c Svensken
  • BruhGamer12BruhGamer12 Member
    edited February 21

    @Neoon said: Users report the Provider, if said Provider has x reports, he can't sell anymore on LET.

    only problem I see with this is when they first do an offer CPU usage is likely to hit max since everyone installing/benchmarking their new VPS causing artificially low scores for the first little bit.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • Which provider is this? Layer?

  • We need a place here on LET where we can upload all our yabs results. Everyone can then check yabs results from each provider, for each package, if they oversell or limit cpu usage hard.

    With diagrams and statistics where we can see max/average/min performance of each offered VPS.

    I believe many of us run „quite a few“ yabs runs on our VPS hehe

    Thanked by 1Svensken
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited February 21

    @Maelstrom36 said:
    Which provider is this? Layer?

    Premium JustHost

    Thanked by 2Maelstrom36 Void
  • @lowendtalkxdax said:
    We need a place here on LET where we can upload all our yabs results. Everyone can then check yabs results from each provider, for each package, if they oversell or limit cpu usage hard.

    With diagrams and statistics where we can see max/average/min performance of each offered VPS.

    I believe many of us run „quite a few“ yabs runs on our VPS hehe

    https://yabsdb.com/

    If you searched a but you would have discovered this gem....

  • @lowendtalkxdax said:
    We need a place here on LET where we can upload all our yabs results. Everyone can then check yabs results from each provider, for each package, if they oversell or limit cpu usage hard.

    With diagrams and statistics where we can see max/average/min performance of each offered VPS.

    I believe many of us run „quite a few“ yabs runs on our VPS hehe

    You mean like yabsdb?

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @lowendtalkxdax said:
    We need a place here on LET where we can upload all our yabs results.

    It's called LET YABS Thread, started by @Astro , member of Team push-ups.
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/176305/let-yabs-thread

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    GB6 is still running.... holy fucking shit

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited February 21

    Requiring a minimum GB score sounds ridiculous to me. I've been personally using just.hosting with their PROMO plan and true, it's slow and whatever, but it serves my purpose, and works just fine for me. It's also the most reliable from all my providers, so why I voted them as most reliable.

    Most importantly, it costs 70RUB (or $1.16 USD/month) for highly premium locations (UAE, Latvia, HK, Singapore, ...)

    Considering I even reinstalled it, almost 11 months of uptime seems amazing to me.

  • @yoursunny said:
    It's called LET YABS Thread, started by @Astro , member of Team push-ups.

    Forgot about this thread. My bad. But with diagrams you we could check deviations and fluctuations of all the VPS being offered here :D

    @plumberg said:
    https://yabsdb.com/
    If you searched a but you would have discovered this gem....

    I knew about this site and the vpsbenchmarks site. However one does not list the provider (only raw stats), the other only has data of old, out of date VPS…

    Forced me to buy VPS from multiple vendors so I could „yabs“ them all to make my own chart for comparison haha.

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • @Neoon said:
    Otherwise just sell it as door stopper or so.
    77 Geekbench is the worst I have ever seen so far.

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-01-01                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Wed Feb 21 09:36:33 PM MSK 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 37 minutes
    Processor  : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v4 @ 2.30GHz
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 2299.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 457.5 MiB
    Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk       : 5.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-18-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : BFB ONE FZ-LLC
    ASN        : AS59878 BFB ONE FZ-LLC
    Host       : BFB ONE FZ-LLC
    Location   : Dubai, Dubai (DU)
    Country    : United Arab Emirates
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 8.50 MB/s     (2.1k) | 9.79 MB/s      (153)
    Write      | 8.54 MB/s     (2.1k) | 10.26 MB/s     (160)
    Total      | 17.04 MB/s    (4.2k) | 20.06 MB/s     (313)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 9.23 MB/s       (18) | 9.08 MB/s        (8)
    Write      | 10.21 MB/s      (19) | 10.23 MB/s       (9)
    Total      | 19.44 MB/s      (37) | 19.32 MB/s      (17)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 10.4 Mbits/sec  | 7.17 Mbits/sec  | 114 ms         
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 9.75 Mbits/sec  | 128 ms         
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 10.9 Mbits/sec  | 9.65 Mbits/sec  | 117 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 10.7 Mbits/sec  | 6.64 Mbits/sec  | 215 ms         
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 10.5 Mbits/sec  | 7.66 Mbits/sec  | 192 ms         
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 10.4 Mbits/sec  | 7.68 Mbits/sec  | 217 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 10.3 Mbits/sec  | 7.79 Mbits/sec  | 246 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 10.7 Mbits/sec  | 7.01 Mbits/sec  | 114 ms         
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 9.65 Mbits/sec  | 119 ms         
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 10.1 Mbits/sec  | 9.54 Mbits/sec  | 117 ms         
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 10.7 Mbits/sec  | 7.29 Mbits/sec  | 215 ms         
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 10.5 Mbits/sec  | 7.54 Mbits/sec  | 192 ms         
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 8.51 Mbits/sec  | 7.57 Mbits/sec  | 217 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 8.23 Mbits/sec  | busy            | 250 ms         
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 77                            
    Multi Core      | 74                            
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/22244876
    
    YABS completed in 36 min 18 sec
    

    Are they hosting on a calculator or something? That score is horrible.

  • hostthebesthostthebest Member, Patron Provider

    It is not an excuse but based on the location, what network speeds were you promised?

  • Can we also add voting system? If X LET users doesn't like a given host then host will be banned?

  • VoidVoid Member

    Thanked by 2host_c niranjan
  • Back to '90

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @hostthebest said:
    It is not an excuse but based on the location, what network speeds were you promised?

    Its 10Mbit, the Network speed is fine.

    @zGato said:
    Requiring a minimum GB score sounds ridiculous to me. I've been personally using just.hosting with their PROMO plan and true, it's slow and whatever, but it serves my purpose, and works just fine for me. It's also the most reliable from all my providers, so why I voted them as most reliable.

    Most importantly, it costs 70RUB (or $1.16 USD/month) for highly premium locations (UAE, Latvia, HK, Singapore, ...)

    Considering I even reinstalled it, almost 11 months of uptime seems amazing to me.

    Yes, its a unique offer true however the usability is questionable.
    I even tried to run a wireguard tunnel, It had easily 40-80ms jitter due to the bad cpu performance.

    mtr didn't show any jitter, so at least the network seems to be better.

  • bapbap Member

    Perhaps not mandating a minimum benchmark result, but rather requiring sellers to disclose the benchmark results of their products at the point of sale.

  • Insane speeds tho

  • bootboot Member

    I thought LET was about the race to the bottom?

    What's up wi' dat?

  • @Neoon said:

    @MannDude said:
    Scummy providers will just fake it, or use the one saved from first run on an empty node.

    Users report the Provider, if said Provider has x reports, he can't sell anymore on LET.

    Honestly, while this would cut drama (bad), I wonder why it isn't the case already. Seriously, not having 200$ and not having to tell they are "finalizing the rule" seems like better for the whole let community. But well.

  • @boot said:
    I thought LET was about the race to the bottom?

    What's up wi' dat?

    mzungu my beloved

  • @Neoon said:
    Yes, its a unique offer true however the usability is questionable.
    I even tried to run a wireguard tunnel, It had easily 40-80ms jitter due to the bad cpu performance.

    mtr didn't show any jitter, so at least the network seems to be better.

    I'm using it as my proxy and works just fine, although it barely relies on CPU, such as how a VPN would do.
    I use it for streaming purposes, so network seems fine, but most likely if you stress that poor CPU it will become an issue.

    Can you check your CPU values on Proxmox? I think it was limited to 30% (cpulimit=0.3) or something like that.

  • @lowendtalkxdax said: However one does not list the provider (only raw stats)

    Some YABS scores have providers on them - Linode, RamNode, OVH, Hetzner - but they seem to be the minority.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    Guys come on. It's a buyers choice to buy or not. Imposing such limits doesn't make sense. There are many small, tiny but decent providers offering VPS that aren't exactly high-end but one must to start someone. Not everyone has access to a credit line. Let's be reasonable.

  • bad idea, it'll reduce the amount of lowend drama

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