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Looking for storage server
Hello,
We are searching for an off-site storage server with the following requirements:
"Decent" Processor. By decent, we require something past maybe 2014 or 2015, such as an E5v3 CPU. Currently using a single E5-1650v3 and it's more than adequate for our use case. Bonus points for E5v4 or above.
Need at least 80TB of usable HDD space after a RAID6 configuration (2 drives used for parity).
Need at least a single 1.92TB of non-QLC SSD storage, preferably 3.84TB SSD. This will be used for caching purposes. An enterprise NVMe would be nicer, but we don't expect much usage anyways.
At least a 2 Gbps port. We will probably not use over 30TB per month past the initial sync, but we sometimes burst past 1 Gbps (and reach almost 2 Gbps). Almost all of our traffic is inbound, we push maybe 1-2TB per month in outbound traffic.
We have a strong preference for Europe, but anything in the United States would also work fine with us.
Thanks
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That's... @crunchbits
Yes @crunchbits !!
@crunchbits @NetDynamics24 @kuroit @labze
@Advin send me a message.
Intel Dual Xeon E5-2630v4
Cores: 20 (Threads: 40)
RAM: 128 GB DDR4 ECC
Disks: 240 GB SSD + 12 x 10 TB SAS HDD
Traffic: 100 TB outbound (unmetered inbound) @ 10 Gbit
Hardware RAID
Location: USA, Utah, Ogden
IPMI and control panel
1 IPv4
$199/mo
If you need bigger SSD, we can see what we can do.
Intel Xeon E5-2640v4
32GB DDR4 ECC RAM
3.84TB SSD NVMe PCIe
10x 10TB HDD SAS 12GB/s - 256M Cache
10TB @ 2Gbps (first month 40TB)
€520/mo VAT excl. if paid monthly
€500/mo VAT excl. if paid quarterly
€460/mo VAT excl. if paid yearly
@Advin We have a spare backup machine, which could be a great fit.
Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v2 | (2x 16 cores) ->~17k points, (your current has ~10k)
128GB ECC Memory
2x 2 TB WD Blue 580n (NVMe)
8x 16TB HDD (new, we would order those)
Dual Power-Supply (A/B connected)
10 GBit NIC
2x IPv4 (idrac & server)
200€/month excl. VAT (quarterly paid upfront).
All options can still be discussed.
Location Europe, Germany, close to DE-CIX
C'mon @Advin you keep just giving me the tip. Let's consummate this strategic partnership
Since I can tell by your comments re: QLC that you're a man who knows what he wants, I have something that would fit just right in your stable.
If we want to keep the costs as reasonable as possible:
NVMe options are also available, but if I'm being perfectly honest I don't think the up-charge is worth it given your comments. Happy to share some stats with you from our own use-cases.
Not offer, but question:
Why would you ask for NVMe or even SSD as data cache? What you even want to cache?
Reads will be slower as theres additional layer and files will be accessed just once and then sit in cache for no reason.
Writes could be cached to be more sequential, but ZFS will do same thing with RAM alone and even then, your bottleneck is the network, not HDDs.
SSD could be nice for boot and metadata cache, but thats about it.
New HDDs are plenty fast if you hit them with 1Gbps.
With money saved on SSD you may get additional HDD for RAID-Z3, which will be way more important for intended purpose (archival data, rarely accessed, high durability). Data cache will only complicate things (more failure points, longer path for reads, two sources of truth in edge cases). Now not only HDDs can fail, but also SSDs so even if your HDDs are fine you can end up with broken backups.
you can't beat location crunchy!
if only you exist everywhere in there world you will beat everyone on their face!
We'll write @Advin an offer of $0.00/month.
That's the usual price of Deep Atlantic Storage anyways.
You gotta beat that by charging a negative price, i.e. you give money squats to Advin.
1:1. Our 5 IOPS is faster than 1 POPM, not comparable product.
Hi everyone, thank you for the messages and offers! I'll get to them in a little bit.
This server will be specifically running a combination of Proxmox Backup Server and ZFS. I've heard in the past from Proxmox forums that having an SSD cache can sometimes help, since Proxmox Backup Server writes a ton of small files. It's not like a standard backup where a singular file archive is uploaded, but rather, Proxmox Backup Server backups VM's incrementally by writing a lot of small files and deduplicates them. I will probably do some testing to evaluate if it's even worth it to have a small SSD cache, but SSD pricing has gone down significantly.
I have also thought of maybe just doing an all-SSD storage cluster, but HDD's have been sufficient for the time being, so maybe if we have more things to backup in the future, we could make the move to something with all-SSD that would avoid any bottlenecks entirely.
Our offer just went out of stock for the moment, so we come back with another offer:
Intel Dual Xeon E5-2630v4 S
Cores: 20 (Threads: 40)
RAM: 128 GB DDR4
Disks: 240 GB SSD + 12 x 14 TB SAS HDD
Traffic: 100 TB outbound (unmetered inbound) @ 10 Gbit
Hardware RAID
Location: USA, Utah, Ogden
IPMI and control panel
1 IPv4
$219/mo or $199/mo (billed quarterly)
If bigger SSD is needed, we can do it for a small charge.
You could even colocate a server
Sorry friendo, but a little too much compared to some other offerings in the market. It's understandable, HDD's are expensive, but sadly it just won't work for us.
Yep, I believe I've seen your offers before, will check and get back to you
Hi friend, will message you again later today and maybe we can work something out
reliablesite 80Tb server 169usd per month
https://reliablesite.net/dedicated-servers/8-core-server/hdd-storage-80TB-32GB
If you want to plan for long time use the server ,pay large amount setup fees then go fdcservers
You will got server under 100-120usd per month .
Setup fees depend on disk size maybe per 10TB 200usd its one time.
@Advin - how fast do you need it? I am awaiting a big batch of hardware and we may have something available for you in EU.
@Advin, so deal closed?
I'll message you in a bit - you're offer is also quite good
No rush at all
ReliableSite is okay but I need 80TB after RAID6. In order to achieve that advertised 80TB, I would have to run it in YOLO RAID0.
If the US is fine I would highly recommend IOFlood in Phoenix AZ, aka @funkywizard . Not the cheapest on the market but great team and good offers (check e.g. WHT for their storage offers but as they do everything inhouse, I would recommend to contact them for a custom offer tailored to your needs).
An actual European offer:
Redacted SX134 storage server
Ryzen 7 3700X
128GB DDR4
2x 960GB NVMe
10x 16TB HDD
Helsinki Finland
€339.27 first month, €245.26 monthly thereafter
Email @Not_Oles to order; he probably has one idling away.
You can also just buy it at www.hetzner.com enjoy !
Actually laughed out loud at that one
@Advin I faxed you my card. It's got my cell number, my pager number, my home number and my other pager number. I never take vacations, I never get sick. And I don't celebrate any major holidays.
But does drink a beer at least?
But you forgot what happens when a bus hits you...