Hacker News Down: 4M requests per day on $100/mo server!

loay

After the last OpenAI drama, HN is frequently inaccessible for logged-in users. This was posted about their infrastructure! I believe they can get a server with better performance from Hetzner or OVH for less than $100 per month.

4M requests per day. One ~$100/mo server (plus standby). pic.twitter.com/Rp0vQ2eTrm

— Daniel Vassallo (@dvassallo) November 18, 2023

The awesome Coolify project is even hosted on a 4$/month Hetzner VPS!!!

I have an ARM server ($4/month) running all of these (image below), with 9M requests/month and 10k unique users.

Not 4M requests/day, but still quite good imo.🙂

— Andras Bacsai (@heyandras) November 18, 2023

cassa

@loay said: I believe they can get a server with better performance from Hetzner or OVH for less than $100 per month.

I guess the support would be a lot worse than M5 Hosting though.

loay

@cassa said:

@loay said: I believe they can get a server with better performance from Hetzner or OVH for less than $100 per month.

I guess the support would be a lot worse than M5 Hosting though.

The network too.

sillycat

zako12

Daily requests doesn't really mean much... if you average it to 46 req/s that isn't impressive even for an old dedicated server, but presumably their peak is much higher than that.

People so used to using 10 frameworks and 40 separate microservices each deployed to their own AWS EC2 instance to generate a basic page they've forgotten what an optimized site on a dedicated server can serve

loay

@zako12 said: People so used to using 10 frameworks and 40 separate microservices each deployed to their own AWS EC2 instance to generate a basic page they've forgotten what an optimized site on a dedicated server can serve

A business I am working for is using AMD Epyc 7401P to host 2 wp sites

boringHustler

@loay said:
A business I am working for is using AMD Epyc 7401P to host 2 wp sites

Depends on how much money they are making. Seems like they are making enough, not to care.

ralf

The point wasn't that they were maxing out that hardware at 4M req/day. The main point was that it was all running on a single machine, relatively low spec for the time (and this was about 6 years ago), and it could still easily handle that load because they had only recently ungraded from a smaller setup. The second machine was another identical machine for failover and upgrades, not to handle additional load.

Terranode

@loay said:

@zako12 said: People so used to using 10 frameworks and 40 separate microservices each deployed to their own AWS EC2 instance to generate a basic page they've forgotten what an optimized site on a dedicated server can serve

A business I am working for is using AMD Epyc 7401P to host 2 wp sites

I have some clients who also host some WordPress pages, but they handle brutal traffic, just by telling you that on a weekend (3 days) they invest 20k on each website in advertising so that that traffic goes to their websites.

MikeA

Not surprising. People overestimate resource needs to run a website.

loay

@Terranode said: I have some clients who also host some WordPress pages, but they handle brutal traffic, just by telling you that on a weekend (3 days) they invest 20k on each website in advertising so that that traffic goes to their websites.

They've 2k visitors per month max. I did a benchmark for the server server on Hetzner:

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 55 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7401P 24-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 48 @ 1200.000 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 125.8 GiB
Swap       : 4.0 GiB
Disk       : 875.0 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-13-amd64
VM Type    : NONE
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 850
Multi Core      | 13398
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/21967531

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1012
Multi Core      | 6915
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3637305

karanchoo

This site is hosted on single AX102

Most are API Non Cached Requests.

Edit : These are last one week stats.

loay

@karanchoo said: Most are API Non Cached Requests.

Wow, great performance, what is the average cpu usage on this?

karanchoo

usually 20-30% on peak usage as seen in spikes spikes 50-60% .
And its IIS10 on win server.

COLBYLICIOUS

@loay said:

@zako12 said: People so used to using 10 frameworks and 40 separate microservices each deployed to their own AWS EC2 instance to generate a basic page they've forgotten what an optimized site on a dedicated server can serve

A business I am working for is using AMD Epyc 7401P to host 2 wp sites

Got three litle Wordpress websites on an VPS with 9 7950x3d vCores and 6GB RAM.

loay

@COLBYLICIOUS said: Got three litle Wordpress websites on an VPS with 9 7950x3d vCores and 6GB RAM.

How much traffic they are getting per day? Do you use woocommerce or any similar plugin?

Neoon

Depends how well optimized your stuff is.
For example gdnsd can easily do 300k requests per second, on first Gen Ryzen hardware.

Probably even more.

bdl

Give tweet author's bio, is probably trying to sell HN a book on how to migrate to AWS

COLBYLICIOUS

@loay said:

@COLBYLICIOUS said: Got three litle Wordpress websites on an VPS with 9 7950x3d vCores and 6GB RAM.

How much traffic they are getting per day? Do you use woocommerce or any similar plugin?

Not much, 500 visitors per day. And no, I don't got WooCommerce on them, they are just blogs but I want to make things to move fast.