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CloudFlare’s last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago (HN discussion)
more infos here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36937413
what do you think about it?
Comments
They glow.
They're such a small and new company, they probably just forgot it, nooothing to worry about. Seriously, there are multiple reasons why not to use Clownflare. Even though if they might actually forget a random blog post, a huuuge american MITM company maaaaayyy occcaassisonally work with the feds.
Absolutely hilarious to see the Cloudflare CEO replying in the thread. He has the time to post a reply but not to send an email to his staff to update the blog post.
I think Matthew Prince have some very good points in the thread that should be taken into consideration too (easy to miss)
Now, as to what’s going on with the internet, I believe that it’s in everyone’s interest if the internet was more decentralized compared to now, Cloudflare has a huge power over large parts of it
However, capitalism does this. I’m not anti-capitalism, still, one has to admit, in many areas it makes small players have a very hard time trying to complete against the larger ones. Especially on the internet. Economics of scale is a very real thing and that’s why Cloudflare can offer crazy good services for a very resonable price (often free)
Maximizing decentralization isn’t rewarded, quite the opposite
I think Cloudflare have been a lot better compared to how most companies with the same power would have been had they been in Cloudflare’s position
Last I've seen they own >85% marketcap in the ddos/reverse proxy kinda industry
I disagree with you that capitalism does this but lets not get into that.
Crazy
I cba to look for historical data, but I’d bet many sites used to use their registrars built-in DNS
But none of these registrars have made their free DNS as robust as CloudFlare with a free included reverse proxy & WAF-rules
Either they’re all dumb, or, it’s just not that rewarding financially
Didn't 60% of the internet die because cloudflare fucked up once? I don't like them, thats why I use something else.
Is there even a free alternative?
With a requrement being unlimited domains, good network (dosen’t have to be as good, but at least close), reverse proxy, easy SSL, basic WAF?
If not, if not capitalism, it’s the result of something still
No, not with your requirements. There are ways of doing it but no where near as good as cloudflare.
Let me DM you if thats ok with you. Don't want to derail this smoll thread
I think warrant canaries are legal BS and don't work.
Dang, I miss that GitHub design.
Imagine how many people would be furious if they delayed the layout change and instead implemented IPv6
Absolutely no one
I would argue that they can "work" but are still just a trust me bro type of thing.
you can see 'em when you're driving, you just run them over, that's what you do
gem
I always assumed it was compromised since day one. Its a perfect thing for feds, they now own 90% of web traffic(plaintext, cf is a mitm proxy).
I advocate for usage of alternatives to Cloudflare.
For anyone confused as to what this user is posting, he's referencing Terry Davis' statement "the CIA niggers glow in the dark; you can see them if you’re driving. You just run them over." The alt-right refer to the feds as "glowniggers".
He was a legend. May he rest in peace.
This man was schizophrenic you absolute idiot. It has nothing to do with politics and whatnot.
He has achieved more than you could ever dream off.
Your profile picture speaks it all, you spend too much time on Twitter.
I didn't say Terry Davis was alt-right, I said the alt-right uses that term, which is true.
edit: My profile picture predates me ever using Twitter, it's the ancient profile picture I used when I posted on Calguns in... around 2008 or so?
This is insane. Anyone can speak any words they want, and you cannot associate fucking terms to political sides.
Western world is doomed.
Know a lot of leftists who call the feds "glowniggers", do you? I've literally never seen someone who wasn't fascist-adjacent use that term.
I do not talk to constantly offended people often, sorry.
You have no idea who a fascist is. Western world has never experienced fascism, nazism or communism. Maybe we should make it like with "nigger", only people who were affected can use it?
This is why I never understood why, outside of pure convenience and zero regard to privacy, anyone recommends CF. That's exactly what it is. Centralized and unfortunately, ubiquitous. That's a space in desperate need of competition but from what I've heard, CF's competition doesn't tend to make it very far...
There are hosts that will kick you off if you get DDOSed, but if the person DDOSing you is stupid (many are) then Cloudflare's free plan is enough to stop their attack from hitting your host.
Cheer for people like @fatchan that actually try to innovate and want to make a product that is not a security or privacy risk to its users.
Yeah but to get something, you have to GIVE something. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
I remember seeing that posted here awhile back! Hopefully he's doing well. If he can get that up and running, I could see that being a huge success. I don't like CF and won't use CF, but being able to reap the benefits of a CF-like service with the benefit of not using CF would be of interest to me and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Then you would hate communism even more as they have literally one company for one kind of service. For example phone company, tourism company (sometimes with subdivisions for internal tourists and external ones as the external ones are bringing in hard currency and they are treated differently from locals), internet company, broadcaster so on and so forth.
The view in communism is to make a basic service accessible to as many people as possible while employing as many people as possible. In Romania waiting times for installing a phone line were measured in years, sometimes decades and even so there were two or more subscribers on the same line in the idea they won't be talking all same time. Overselling has been invented in communism due to scarcity of resources and investment, not because of greed and profit, though.
In Romania it was even worse as there were some weirdly merged companies. For example, the so called PTTR (Post, Telephone, Telegraph, Radio) all-in-one-wonder-pro, one building in every bigger village or more in big cities to house the public phones, the post office, the telegraph and the radio which was used to send messages in places where wiring wasn't done yet. I am sure it would have been added the Internet now, if communism survived for long enough in Romania. One true communication company.
Allow me to introduce Akamai as the sun and Cloudflare as the earth in this comparison.
Obviously, did I say I was a communist?
All I said is that capitalism does benefit economics of scale, there's a reason a smaller player that beats CF and is free dosen't exist
Being able to admit one negative consequence dosen't make one love the opposite
Oh yeah. They've got a lock on the real $$$ market.