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VPS ran outta juice, nerfed after a month - HostHatch (16GB)

socialtermssocialterms Member
edited July 2023 in Reviews

Following is the YABS done right after getting the server (day 1), everything was well and performant:

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#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2023-04-23                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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Mon Jun 26 22:51:52 UTC 2023

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7542 32-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2899.998 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 15.6 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 68.7 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-9-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : HostHatch
ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
Host       : HostHatch, LLC
Location   : Canberra, Australian Capital Territory (ACT)
Country    : Australia

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 229.87 MB/s  (57.4k) | 2.79 GB/s    (43.6k)
Write      | 230.48 MB/s  (57.6k) | 2.80 GB/s    (43.8k)
Total      | 460.35 MB/s (115.0k) | 5.59 GB/s    (87.4k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 3.02 GB/s     (5.9k) | 4.89 GB/s     (4.7k)
Write      | 3.18 GB/s     (6.2k) | 5.21 GB/s     (5.0k)
Total      | 6.21 GB/s    (12.1k) | 10.10 GB/s    (9.8k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.06 Gbits/sec  | 827 Mbits/sec   | 156 ms
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.17 Gbits/sec  | 896 Mbits/sec   | 169 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 1.10 Gbits/sec  | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 156 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.65 Gbits/sec  | 1.22 Gbits/sec  | 128 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 753 Mbits/sec   | 516 Mbits/sec   | 209 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 578 Mbits/sec   | 621 Mbits/sec   | 257 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 953 Mbits/sec   | 810 Mbits/sec   | 172 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1356
Multi Core      | 4396
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1732763


And here's the YABS after near month :confused:


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# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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Mon Jul 24 05:24:36 UTC 2023

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 5 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7542 32-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2899.998 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 15.6 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 68.7 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-9-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : HostHatch
ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
Host       : HostHatch, LLC
Location   : Singapore, North West (03)
Country    : Singapore

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 77.69 MB/s   (19.4k) | 642.99 MB/s  (10.0k)
Write      | 77.89 MB/s   (19.4k) | 646.37 MB/s  (10.0k)
Total      | 155.58 MB/s  (38.8k) | 1.28 GB/s    (20.1k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 2.07 GB/s     (4.0k) | 2.15 GB/s     (2.1k)
Write      | 2.18 GB/s     (4.2k) | 2.29 GB/s     (2.2k)
Total      | 4.26 GB/s     (8.3k) | 4.44 GB/s     (4.3k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 629 Mbits/sec   | 575 Mbits/sec   | 171 ms
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 838 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 166 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 575 Mbits/sec   | 995 Mbits/sec   | 156 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.34 Gbits/sec  | 405 Mbits/sec   | 120 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 562 Mbits/sec   | 122 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 183 Mbits/sec   | 233 Mbits/sec   | 268 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 531 Mbits/sec   | 278 Mbits/sec   | 173 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 829
Multi Core      | 2034
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/2018081


Also according to their VPS plan, it comes with75GB of disk space, and what we got is just 68GB only.

Is it normal by such vps providers or is there something we missing?
The server is just empty, its not even running any real world applications yet.

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Comments

  • tentortentor Member, Patron Provider

    Oversell magic :)

    Thanked by 2JasonM homelabber
  • Hosthatch also oversells?
    Noticed people here recommending them with positive reviews.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • tentortentor Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2023

    @socialterms said:
    Hosthatch also oversells?
    Noticed people here recommending them with positive reviews.

    All VPS offers (expect ones with dedicated cores) are overselled. However someone oversells slightly and someones does it as hard as possible without caring about performance.

    Thanked by 2JasonM homelabber
  • dosaidosai Member

    Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

  • gsea4gsea4 Member

    Are those YABS from the same VPS?

  • ailiceailice Member

    Location is different from other vps

  • tentortentor Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2023

    @ailice said:
    Location is different from other vps

    It may be due to GeoIP databases got update - location is determined from IP address

    Thanked by 2bdl ailice
  • @dosai said:
    Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

    Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
    Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

    Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • @gsea4 said:
    Are those YABS from the same VPS?

    Yes from the same VPS.

  • tentortentor Member, Patron Provider

    @socialterms said:

    @dosai said:
    Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

    Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
    Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

    Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

    Better check using top/htop and fdisk utilities

    Thanked by 1homelabber
  • @ailice said:
    Location is different from other vps

    That we also noticed in starting, after purchase we ran 1st YABS and saw the location says "Australia' which is not what we signed up for, it should've been "Singapore".

    But now when we ran 2nd YABS after month, the location is changed, disk performance nerfed, network speed garbage.. totally different from what it was on day 1 :/

  • @jobayer looks like you got a company here mate.

    Thanked by 1jobayer
  • aliletalilet Member

    You have been hosthatched

  • AllHost_RepAllHost_Rep Member, Patron Provider

    @socialterms said:

    @dosai said:
    Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

    Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
    Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

    Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

    GB <-> GiB

    Thanked by 3bdl ariq01 RapToN
  • zGatozGato Member

    @socialterms said:

    @dosai said:
    Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

    Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
    Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

    Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

    The disk space is most likely due to your disk format and some file reservations. I have some VMs with like 100GB that only 98GB can be used, and still, when I'm at like 92GB the disk is "full"

  • @tentor said:
    Better check using top/htop and fdisk utilities

    htop:

    fdisk:

  • zGatozGato Member

    @socialterms said:

    @tentor said:
    Better check using top/htop and fdisk utilities

    htop:

    fdisk:

    That's some high steal % holy

  • febryanvaldofebryanvaldo Member
    edited July 2023

    @socialterms said: And here's the YABS after near month

    Is the VPS idling at the moment you ran YABS?

    @socialterms said: Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

    try df -hT --total

    @socialterms said: That we also noticed in starting, after purchase we ran 1st YABS and saw the location says "Australia' which is not what we signed up for, it should've been "Singapore".

    But now when we ran 2nd YABS after month, the location is changed...

    It's not really big problem, because YABS is using ip-api.com Free API , maybe it's not yet updated at the time you ran YABS.

  • socialtermssocialterms Member
    edited July 2023

    @AllHost_Rep said:
    GB <-> GiB

    Wow!

    Other server providers we used had no such fancy stuff.

    The numbers were always exact according to the plan, so if the plan said 100GB then it was 100GB available for use.

  • @febryanvaldo said:
    Is the VPS idling at the moment you ran YABS?

    Yes, there's nothing running on the server so it has to be on idle state.


    @febryanvaldo said:
    try df -hT --total

    Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
    udev           devtmpfs  7.8G     0  7.8G   0% /dev
    tmpfs          tmpfs     1.6G  848K  1.6G   1% /run
    /dev/vda1      ext4       69G  4.0G   62G   6% /
    tmpfs          tmpfs     7.9G     0  7.9G   0% /dev/shm
    tmpfs          tmpfs     5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
    /dev/vda15     vfat      124M   12M  113M  10% /boot/efi
    tmpfs          tmpfs     1.6G     0  1.6G   0% /run/user/1000
    total          -          88G  4.0G   81G   5% -
    


    @febryanvaldo said:
    It's not really big problem, because YABS is using ip-api.com Free API , maybe it's not yet updated at the time you ran YABS.

    Network speed can be totally understandable, but how come the Disk speed tests also totally different compared to the 1st YABS, also that Geekbench score is almost half. :/

  • socialtermssocialterms Member
    edited July 2023

    @alilet said:
    You have been hosthatched

    Are they bad? Because people here suggested others about Hosthatch in positive way.

  • zGatozGato Member

    @socialterms said:

    @alilet said:
    You have been hosthatched

    Are they bad? Because people here suggested others about Hosthatch in positive way.

    There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091

    I've not personally used them though.

  • Courtesy tag @hosthatch

  • nick_nick_ Member
    edited July 2023

    Interesting. I thought their latest sale in SG would be on an EPYC Milan node, but apparently it's Rome according to the yabs above. My VPS in SG from the sale in March is on EPYC 7443.

    Day 1 yabs

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    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2023-04-23                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Tue 30 May 2023 01:03:11 AM UTC
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 11 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7443 24-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2844.654 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 7.8 GiB
    Swap       : 512.0 MiB
    Disk       : 54.7 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel     : 5.10.0-23-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : HostHatch
    ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
    Host       : HostHatch, LLC
    Location   : Singapore, North West (03)
    Country    : Singapore
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 290.04 MB/s  (72.5k) | 3.68 GB/s    (57.5k)
    Write      | 290.80 MB/s  (72.7k) | 3.70 GB/s    (57.8k)
    Total      | 580.84 MB/s (145.2k) | 7.38 GB/s   (115.3k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 10.26 GB/s   (20.0k) | 10.91 GB/s   (10.6k)
    Write      | 10.81 GB/s   (21.1k) | 11.63 GB/s   (11.3k)
    Total      | 21.07 GB/s   (41.1k) | 22.55 GB/s   (22.0k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 937 Mbits/sec   | 822 Mbits/sec   | --
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | busy            | 171 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | busy            | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 228 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 1.38 Gbits/sec  | 181 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 258 Mbits/sec   | 173 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 503 Mbits/sec   | 622 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 553 Mbits/sec   | 811 Mbits/sec   | 166 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | busy            | --
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 166 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 543 Mbits/sec   | 724 Mbits/sec   | 227 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 779 Mbits/sec   | 413 Mbits/sec   | 181 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 420 Mbits/sec   | 484 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 590 Mbits/sec   | 841 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 685 Mbits/sec   | 634 Mbits/sec   | 166 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1872
    Multi Core      | 3432
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1422341
    
    YABS completed in 12 min 22 sec
    

    Today yabs. I skipped the network test to save bandwidth.

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    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Mon Jul 24 09:10:12 AM UTC 2023                                                
    
    Basic System Information:                                                      
    ---------------------------------                                              
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes                 
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7443 24-Core Processor            
    CPU cores  : 2 @ 2844.654 MHz                                                  
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled                                                         
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled                                                         
    RAM        : 7.8 GiB                                                           
    Swap       : 512.0 MiB                                                         
    Disk       : 54.7 GiB                                                          
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)             
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-10-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : HostHatch
    ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
    Host       : HostHatch, LLC
    Location   : Singapore, North West (03)
    Country    : Singapore
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 229.29 MB/s  (57.3k) | 2.92 GB/s    (45.7k)
    Write      | 229.90 MB/s  (57.4k) | 2.94 GB/s    (45.9k)
    Total      | 459.19 MB/s (114.7k) | 5.86 GB/s    (91.6k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 10.01 GB/s   (19.5k) | 10.25 GB/s   (10.0k)
    Write      | 10.54 GB/s   (20.5k) | 10.93 GB/s   (10.6k)
    Total      | 20.56 GB/s   (40.1k) | 21.18 GB/s   (20.6k)
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1657                          
    Multi Core      | 2979                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/2019395
    
    YABS completed in 7 min 5 sec
    
    
  • @socialterms said: but how come the Disk speed tests also totally different compared to the 1st YABS, also that Geekbench score is almost half.

    You could be in the oversold node or hypervisor. Ask HostHatch to migrate like my friend here @jobayer

  • Recent htop activity :/
    Its supposed to be idle, running literally nothing on it so far.

    And they say it comes with 16GB ram + 4 AMD EPYC cores
    (2 dedicated, 2 fair-shared cores)

  • @zGato said:
    There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
    I've not personally used them though.

    So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

    This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider
    edited July 2023

    @socialterms said:

    @zGato said:
    There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
    I've not personally used them though.

    So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

    This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

    Overselling CPU cores is the norm. It is a shared environment. However, to what degree depends a lot on the provider. Around 40% decrease in performance should not happen though. I'd suggest you try and benchmark it at other times / another day to see if this is due to a momentary increase on server load or if it is permanently oversold.

  • zGatozGato Member
    edited July 2023

    @socialterms said:

    @zGato said:
    There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
    I've not personally used them though.

    So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

    This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

    They probably just oversell, and if the user doesn't catch up (or he doesn't care) they'll leave it as is. But that user asked for a fix and HostHatch transfered to a different node for him and seems like it fixed his CPU steal.

    Either way, this varies a lot depending on the provider. I have some VPS for like $1.20 USD / month which are not oversold in any way, and performance is great.

    This is another VM that costs around 1.5€ / month with Ryzen 5 CPU

    I have over 30 VMs and I've never seen that CPU steal in my life.

  • zGatozGato Member

    @labze said:

    @socialterms said:

    @zGato said:
    There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
    I've not personally used them though.

    So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

    This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

    Overselling CPU cores is the norm. It is a shared environment. However, to what degree depends a lot on the provider. Around 40% decrease in performance should not happen though. I'd suggest you try and benchmark it at other times / another day to see if this is due to a momentary increase on server load or if it is permanently oversold.

    Even if it's a shared environment, a fair-allocation is not the same as overselling directly.

    His package has 2 dedicated cores, and I really doubt that's the case.

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