VPS ran outta juice, nerfed after a month - HostHatch (16GB)

socialterms · July 24

Following is the YABS done right after getting the server (day 1), everything was well and performant:

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Mon Jun 26 22:51:52 UTC 2023

Basic System Information:
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Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7542 32-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2899.998 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 15.6 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 68.7 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-9-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
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ISP        : HostHatch
ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
Host       : HostHatch, LLC
Location   : Canberra, Australian Capital Territory (ACT)
Country    : Australia

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 229.87 MB/s  (57.4k) | 2.79 GB/s    (43.6k)
Write      | 230.48 MB/s  (57.6k) | 2.80 GB/s    (43.8k)
Total      | 460.35 MB/s (115.0k) | 5.59 GB/s    (87.4k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 3.02 GB/s     (5.9k) | 4.89 GB/s     (4.7k)
Write      | 3.18 GB/s     (6.2k) | 5.21 GB/s     (5.0k)
Total      | 6.21 GB/s    (12.1k) | 10.10 GB/s    (9.8k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
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Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.06 Gbits/sec  | 827 Mbits/sec   | 156 ms
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.17 Gbits/sec  | 896 Mbits/sec   | 169 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 1.10 Gbits/sec  | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 156 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.65 Gbits/sec  | 1.22 Gbits/sec  | 128 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 753 Mbits/sec   | 516 Mbits/sec   | 209 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 578 Mbits/sec   | 621 Mbits/sec   | 257 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 953 Mbits/sec   | 810 Mbits/sec   | 172 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1356
Multi Core      | 4396
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1732763

And here's the YABS after near month

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Mon Jul 24 05:24:36 UTC 2023

Basic System Information:
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Uptime     : 5 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7542 32-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 4 @ 2899.998 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 15.6 GiB
Swap       : 0.0 KiB
Disk       : 68.7 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-9-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline

IPv4 Network Information:
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ISP        : HostHatch
ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
Host       : HostHatch, LLC
Location   : Singapore, North West (03)
Country    : Singapore

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
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Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 77.69 MB/s   (19.4k) | 642.99 MB/s  (10.0k)
Write      | 77.89 MB/s   (19.4k) | 646.37 MB/s  (10.0k)
Total      | 155.58 MB/s  (38.8k) | 1.28 GB/s    (20.1k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 2.07 GB/s     (4.0k) | 2.15 GB/s     (2.1k)
Write      | 2.18 GB/s     (4.2k) | 2.29 GB/s     (2.2k)
Total      | 4.26 GB/s     (8.3k) | 4.44 GB/s     (4.3k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
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Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 629 Mbits/sec   | 575 Mbits/sec   | 171 ms
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 838 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 166 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 575 Mbits/sec   | 995 Mbits/sec   | 156 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.34 Gbits/sec  | 405 Mbits/sec   | 120 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 562 Mbits/sec   | 122 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 183 Mbits/sec   | 233 Mbits/sec   | 268 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 531 Mbits/sec   | 278 Mbits/sec   | 173 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 829
Multi Core      | 2034
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/2018081

Also according to their VPS plan, it comes with75GB of disk space, and what we got is just 68GB only.

Is it normal by such vps providers or is there something we missing?
The server is just empty, its not even running any real world applications yet.

tentor · July 24

Oversell magic

socialterms · July 24

Hosthatch also oversells?
Noticed people here recommending them with positive reviews.

tentor · July 24

@socialterms said:
Hosthatch also oversells?
Noticed people here recommending them with positive reviews.

All VPS offers (expect ones with dedicated cores) are overselled. However someone oversells slightly and someones does it as hard as possible without caring about performance.

dosai · July 24

Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

gsea4 · July 24

Are those YABS from the same VPS?

ailice · July 24

Location is different from other vps

tentor · July 24

@ailice said:
Location is different from other vps

It may be due to GeoIP databases got update - location is determined from IP address

socialterms · July 24

@dosai said:
Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

socialterms · July 24

@gsea4 said:
Are those YABS from the same VPS?

Yes from the same VPS.

tentor · July 24

@socialterms said:

@dosai said:
Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

Better check using top/htop and fdisk utilities

socialterms · July 24

@ailice said:
Location is different from other vps

That we also noticed in starting, after purchase we ran 1st YABS and saw the location says "Australia' which is not what we signed up for, it should've been "Singapore".

But now when we ran 2nd YABS after month, the location is changed, disk performance nerfed, network speed garbage.. totally different from what it was on day 1

febryanvaldo · July 24

@jobayer looks like you got a company here mate.

alilet · July 24

You have been hosthatched

AllHost_Rep · July 24

@socialterms said:

@dosai said:
Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

GB <-> GiB

zGato · July 24

@socialterms said:

@dosai said:
Check if there is any steal going on. Try reporting it to support.

Well there is CPU cores usage, even when the server is supposed to be idle.
Other servers we used didn't even flinch above0% in same idle state.

Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

The disk space is most likely due to your disk format and some file reservations. I have some VMs with like 100GB that only 98GB can be used, and still, when I'm at like 92GB the disk is "full"

socialterms · July 24

@tentor said:
Better check using top/htop and fdisk utilities

htop:

fdisk:

zGato · July 24

@socialterms said:

@tentor said:
Better check using top/htop and fdisk utilities

htop:

fdisk:

That's some high steal % holy

febryanvaldo · July 24

@socialterms said: And here's the YABS after near month

Is the VPS idling at the moment you ran YABS?

@socialterms said: Also wondering what's the deal about disk space not 75GB according to the plan?

try df -hT --total

@socialterms said: That we also noticed in starting, after purchase we ran 1st YABS and saw the location says "Australia' which is not what we signed up for, it should've been "Singapore".

But now when we ran 2nd YABS after month, the location is changed...

It's not really big problem, because YABS is using ip-api.com Free API , maybe it's not yet updated at the time you ran YABS.

socialterms · July 24

@AllHost_Rep said:
GB <-> GiB

Wow!

Other server providers we used had no such fancy stuff.

The numbers were always exact according to the plan, so if the plan said 100GB then it was 100GB available for use.

socialterms · July 24

@febryanvaldo said:
Is the VPS idling at the moment you ran YABS?

Yes, there's nothing running on the server so it has to be on idle state.

@febryanvaldo said:
try df -hT --total

Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev           devtmpfs  7.8G     0  7.8G   0% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.6G  848K  1.6G   1% /run
/dev/vda1      ext4       69G  4.0G   62G   6% /
tmpfs          tmpfs     7.9G     0  7.9G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs          tmpfs     5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
/dev/vda15     vfat      124M   12M  113M  10% /boot/efi
tmpfs          tmpfs     1.6G     0  1.6G   0% /run/user/1000
total          -          88G  4.0G   81G   5% -

@febryanvaldo said:
It's not really big problem, because YABS is using ip-api.com Free API , maybe it's not yet updated at the time you ran YABS.

Network speed can be totally understandable, but how come the Disk speed tests also totally different compared to the 1st YABS, also that Geekbench score is almost half.

socialterms · July 24

@alilet said:
You have been hosthatched

Are they bad? Because people here suggested others about Hosthatch in positive way.

zGato · July 24

@socialterms said:

@alilet said:
You have been hosthatched

Are they bad? Because people here suggested others about Hosthatch in positive way.

There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091

I've not personally used them though.

Gravely · July 24

Courtesy tag @hosthatch

nick_ · July 24

Interesting. I thought their latest sale in SG would be on an EPYC Milan node, but apparently it's Rome according to the yabs above. My VPS in SG from the sale in March is on EPYC 7443.

Day 1 yabs

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Tue 30 May 2023 01:03:11 AM UTC

Basic System Information:
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Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 11 minutes
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7443 24-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 2 @ 2844.654 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 7.8 GiB
Swap       : 512.0 MiB
Disk       : 54.7 GiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel     : 5.10.0-23-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
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ISP        : HostHatch
ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
Host       : HostHatch, LLC
Location   : Singapore, North West (03)
Country    : Singapore

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
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Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 290.04 MB/s  (72.5k) | 3.68 GB/s    (57.5k)
Write      | 290.80 MB/s  (72.7k) | 3.70 GB/s    (57.8k)
Total      | 580.84 MB/s (145.2k) | 7.38 GB/s   (115.3k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 10.26 GB/s   (20.0k) | 10.91 GB/s   (10.6k)
Write      | 10.81 GB/s   (21.1k) | 11.63 GB/s   (11.3k)
Total      | 21.07 GB/s   (41.1k) | 22.55 GB/s   (22.0k)

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 937 Mbits/sec   | 822 Mbits/sec   | --
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | busy            | 171 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | busy            | 1.12 Gbits/sec  | 228 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 1.38 Gbits/sec  | 181 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 258 Mbits/sec   | 173 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 503 Mbits/sec   | 622 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 553 Mbits/sec   | 811 Mbits/sec   | 166 ms

iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
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Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
-----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | busy            | --
Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | busy            | 1.02 Gbits/sec  | 166 ms
NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 543 Mbits/sec   | 724 Mbits/sec   | 227 ms
Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 779 Mbits/sec   | 413 Mbits/sec   | 181 ms
Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 420 Mbits/sec   | 484 Mbits/sec   | 210 ms
Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 590 Mbits/sec   | 841 Mbits/sec   | 202 ms
Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 685 Mbits/sec   | 634 Mbits/sec   | 166 ms

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test            | Value
                |
Single Core     | 1872
Multi Core      | 3432
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1422341

YABS completed in 12 min 22 sec

Today yabs. I skipped the network test to save bandwidth.

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Mon Jul 24 09:10:12 AM UTC 2023                                                

Basic System Information:                                                      
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Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes                 
Processor  : AMD EPYC 7443 24-Core Processor            
CPU cores  : 2 @ 2844.654 MHz                                                  
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled                                                         
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled                                                         
RAM        : 7.8 GiB                                                           
Swap       : 512.0 MiB                                                         
Disk       : 54.7 GiB                                                          
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)             
Kernel     : 6.1.0-10-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : HostHatch
ASN        : AS63473 HostHatch, LLC
Host       : HostHatch, LLC
Location   : Singapore, North West (03)
Country    : Singapore

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 229.29 MB/s  (57.3k) | 2.92 GB/s    (45.7k)
Write      | 229.90 MB/s  (57.4k) | 2.94 GB/s    (45.9k)
Total      | 459.19 MB/s (114.7k) | 5.86 GB/s    (91.6k)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 10.01 GB/s   (19.5k) | 10.25 GB/s   (10.0k)
Write      | 10.54 GB/s   (20.5k) | 10.93 GB/s   (10.6k)
Total      | 20.56 GB/s   (40.1k) | 21.18 GB/s   (20.6k)

Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test            | Value                         
                |                               
Single Core     | 1657                          
Multi Core      | 2979                          
Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/2019395

YABS completed in 7 min 5 sec

febryanvaldo · July 24

@socialterms said: but how come the Disk speed tests also totally different compared to the 1st YABS, also that Geekbench score is almost half.

You could be in the oversold node or hypervisor. Ask HostHatch to migrate like my friend here @jobayer

socialterms · July 24

Recent htop activity
Its supposed to be idle, running literally nothing on it so far.

And they say it comes with 16GB ram + 4 AMD EPYC cores
(2 dedicated, 2 fair-shared cores)

socialterms · July 24

@zGato said:
There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
I've not personally used them though.

So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

labze · July 24

@socialterms said:

@zGato said:
There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
I've not personally used them though.

So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

Overselling CPU cores is the norm. It is a shared environment. However, to what degree depends a lot on the provider. Around 40% decrease in performance should not happen though. I'd suggest you try and benchmark it at other times / another day to see if this is due to a momentary increase on server load or if it is permanently oversold.

zGato · July 24

@socialterms said:

@zGato said:
There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
I've not personally used them though.

So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

They probably just oversell, and if the user doesn't catch up (or he doesn't care) they'll leave it as is. But that user asked for a fix and HostHatch transfered to a different node for him and seems like it fixed his CPU steal.

Either way, this varies a lot depending on the provider. I have some VPS for like $1.20 USD / month which are not oversold in any way, and performance is great.

This is another VM that costs around 1.5€ / month with Ryzen 5 CPU

I have over 30 VMs and I've never seen that CPU steal in my life.

zGato · July 24

@labze said:

@socialterms said:

@zGato said:
There has been several reports of HostHatch's VPS performance going down after a few days / months. Check: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3692091#Comment_3692091
I've not personally used them though.

So they doing it on purpose to lure people in and silently nerfing the performance of resources after a week or so.

This is pure scam isn't it? Or its like a norm for the Server Providers nowdays.

Overselling CPU cores is the norm. It is a shared environment. However, to what degree depends a lot on the provider. Around 40% decrease in performance should not happen though. I'd suggest you try and benchmark it at other times / another day to see if this is due to a momentary increase on server load or if it is permanently oversold.

Even if it's a shared environment, a fair-allocation is not the same as overselling directly.

His package has 2 dedicated cores, and I really doubt that's the case.

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