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Flawless IPTV operators sentenced to 30 years in prison

treesmokahtreesmokah Member
edited June 2023 in News

Five men behind pirate IPTV service 'Flawless' were sentenced to more than 30 years in prison today, after a private prosecution by the Premier League. A FACT test purchase in 2017 led to the involvement of four territorial police forces, three regional Trading Standards units, and the arrest of service kingpin, Mark Gould, in 2018. In less than two years, Flawless served over 50,000 UK households while generating millions in revenue.


Following an extraordinarily deep and costly investigation, and a five-year Premier League private prosecution, five men behind the UK’s largest-ever piracy service were sentenced today at Chesterfield Justice Centre.

Mark Gould, Steven Gordon, Peter Jolley, Christopher Felvus and William Brown were sentenced to more than 30 years in prison combined. A sixth defendant, Zak Smith, did not appear in court.

In total, Flawless operated for just 22 months but still managed to generate an estimated £4.6 million in revenue. £3.7 million of that was profit, split very unequally between those sent to prison today.

Mark Gould, 36, was the driving force behind Flawless. His share of the profit was around £1.7 million. Today he received an unprecedented 11-year sentence on two counts of conspiracy to defraud and contempt of court.

Steven Gordon’s cut was significant too, roughly £1 million according to the prosecution. Two counts of conspiracy to defraud and contempt of court led to a sentence of five years and two months.

Peter Jolley’s share of the profit was reported as £773,000. He received a sentence of five years and two months, on two counts of conspiracy to defraud and money laundering.

Christopher Felvus’ share was a relatively modest £164,500. Two counts of conspiracy to defraud earned him a sentence of three years and 11 months.

William Brown made just £15,000 but after pleading not guilty and then losing his case, today he was sentenced to four years and nine months, on two counts of conspiracy to defraud.

Zak Smith appears to have made less than £5,000 from Flawless. He did not appear in court today and a warrant was issued for his arrest. (LOL!)


source;
https://torrentfreak.com/flawless-iptv-men-behind-uks-largest-pirate-service-jailed-for-30-years-230530/
https://tarnkappe.info/artikel/iptv/flawless-iptv-betreiber-zu-ueber-30-jahren-haft-verurteilt-275785.html

Do not support dmca mafia.
Their loses in revenue are marginal, yet they ruin real people lives.
People are jailed for significant time for things that used to be completely legal just a few years ago - but as a result of lobbying and big money from mafia, aren't anymore.
Copyrighting pixels on your screen is the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

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  • emghemgh Member

    Yes, the DMCA are maffia.

    But some dudes stealing content to make £4.6 million in 22 months are not.

    There's SOME moral arguments that could be made that ThePirateBay for example were righteous.

    This was just a get rich quick scheme, and if your end goal is monitization, there probably wasn't so much of a higher cause involved.

    Just a few guys, wanting to get rich, thought they were above the law - turns out they were not.

  • treesmokahtreesmokah Member
    edited June 2023

    @emgh said: Just a few guys, wanting to get rich, thought they were above the law - turns out they were not.

    They were above the law, dmca mafia paid to change it, they even have a fucking right to prosecute people now in UK.

  • emghemgh Member

    @treesmokah said:

    @emgh said: Just a few guys, wanting to get rich, thought they were above the law - turns out they were not.

    They were above the law, dmca mafia paid to change it, they even have a fucking right to prosecute people now in UK.

    So they're not above the law after all.

  • emghemgh Member

    Don’t you think it to some degree fucks the righteousness up when you make millions pirating?

  • @emgh said:
    Don’t you think it to some degree fucks the righteousness up when you make millions pirating?

    30 years is more than what you get for murder in most cases.

  • VoidVoid Member

    When you steal millions, at least have the decency to split it equally.

  • emghemgh Member
    edited June 2023

    @treesmokah said:

    @emgh said:
    Don’t you think it to some degree fucks the righteousness up when you make millions pirating?

    30 years is more than what you get for murder in most cases.

    Yes, I agree, too long

    But I’d feel a lot worse for them if they were driven by an ideological cause

    To me it seems to be greed, just like those they were pirating from

    So I don’t see how they’re much better

    Without having read the court documents, I would imagine the reason for the severe jail time was this business-aspect of it

    I’d doubt they’d get 30 years if they didn’t make millions off of it

    Also 30 years was only the leader, right?

  • emghemgh Member

    @jmaxwell said:
    When you steal millions, at least have the decency to split it equally.

    Do we know that the guy who made like 5 k didn’t just like design a logo or something?

  • @emgh said: I’d doubt they’d get 30 years if they didn’t make millions off of it

    guy that made 15k gbp got almost 5 years

    @emgh said: Also 30 years was only the leader, right?

    it was combined, the "leader" got over 11 years.

  • emghemgh Member

    @treesmokah said:

    @emgh said: I’d doubt they’d get 30 years if they didn’t make millions off of it

    guy that made 15k gbp got almost 5 years

    @emgh said: Also 30 years was only the leader, right?

    it was combined, the "leader" got over 11 years.

    Aha, that’s a little weird way of calulating it

    The more people involved the higher the total jail time without it being more severe

    Murder could have 1000 years jailtime if 300 people did it together

  • emghemgh Member

    Anyway

    Greed vs. Greed

    No one’s righteous

  • @treesmokah said: guy that made 15k gbp got almost 5 years

    its more than what you get for rape in the UK

  • Flawless

    Ironic

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  • emghemgh Member

    @treesmokah said:

    @treesmokah said: guy that made 15k gbp got almost 5 years

    its more than what you get for rape in the UK

    5 years is more than 4-19?

  • @emgh said:

    @treesmokah said:

    @treesmokah said: guy that made 15k gbp got almost 5 years

    its more than what you get for rape in the UK

    5 years is more than 4-19?

    well, meant the "lowest" sentence.
    its still fucking insane to me.

  • @emgh said: Murder could have 1000 years jailtime if 300 people did it together

    I do not think 300 people are able to murder one person.

  • emghemgh Member

    @treesmokah said:

    @emgh said: Murder could have 1000 years jailtime if 300 people did it together

    I do not think 300 people are able to murder one person.

    Putting a little poison each into a glass of the victim

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    When a piracy service makes millions of dollars, they should try to become something legit, because at that point they have money to invest. Many companies have dirty foundations, but then businesses need to turn legal and play fair.

    I feel some empathy for the people who did not make much money from this (like £15,000 and £5,000). They should not go to prison for years; but then again it's capitalism.

  • LeviLevi Member

    Generated 1.7 mil. and received 11 years. Real time served will be halfed for good behavior. So 6-7 years in hole and after that 1.7 mil. Not bad.

  • Rule of thumb is you don't fuck with Premier League.

  • @LTniger said:
    Generated 1.7 mil. and received 11 years. Real time served will be halfed for good behavior. So 6-7 years in hole and after that 1.7 mil. Not bad.

    Except they will get sued to shit for damages, Nintendo style.

  • neverainneverain Member
    edited June 2023

    @treesmokah said: guy that made 15k gbp got almost 5 years

    -

    but after pleading not guilty and then losing his case

  • hostarishostaris Member
    edited June 2023

    How come the one who earned £164k got a smaller sentence than the £15k fella?

    Seems unfair IMO considering it looks like he was just a high-up "employee"

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hostaris said:
    How come the one who earned £164k got a smaller sentence than the £15k fella?

    Seems unfair IMO considering it looks like he was just a high-up "employee"

    You found the snitch.

    Francisco

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited June 2023

    @hostaris said:
    How come the one who earned £164k got a smaller sentence than the £15k fella?

    Seems unfair IMO considering it looks like he was just a high-up "employee"

    It's called capitalism. Many times a corrupted politician who steals millions gets less punishment than a simple thief. Many times a corporation stealing millions gets less than a poor person stealing food or clothing. This is how capitalism works; and many times all you need is a good and expensive lawyer (or a whole law firm).

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  • @LTniger said:
    Generated 1.7 mil. and received 11 years. Real time served will be halfed for good behavior. So 6-7 years in hole and after that 1.7 mil. Not bad.

    It will all be seized as proceeds of crime

  • emghemgh Member

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65697595

    One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer.

  • @emgh said:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65697595

    One of them, Christopher Felvus, 36, was also found guilty of voyeurism and possessing indecent images of children, discovered on his computer.

    Interesting, it does not appear like he got charged with it though, at least regarding to TF and tarnkappe.

  • zako12zako12 Member
    edited June 2023

    Woman killed 2 of my friends while driving drugged, despite the court having texts she sent to her friend joking "i definitely shouldn't be driving, lol"... 3 years, was out in less than 2 without even a driving ban. £15k of piracy... 5 years. Joke country.

  • @zako12 said:
    Woman killed 2 of my friends while driving drugged, despite the court having texts she sent to her friend joking "i definitely shouldn't be driving, lol"... 3 years, was out in less than 2 without even a driving ban. £15k for piracy... 5 years. Joke country.

    I feel you mate.

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