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  • there has been a misunderstanding
    anyways proton, windscribe, nord
    proton free has a very good speed almost gigabit, windscribe has a 10g limit in the free plan but also has 10gbit servers apparently (someone give me money to try it) and nord is nord, its not good not bad it just is

  • hellb0yhellb0y Member

    Wireguard all the way

  • VoidVoid Member

    Why y’all saying Wireguard? I think the post is about OVPN not OpenVPN

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited May 2023

    There are many coincidences.

    PrivateInternerAccess (PIA VPN) - after it was acknowledged in court that it did not keep logs. Months later > Sold.

    OVPN after protecting Piratebay (in the past) and recently giving proof that it doesn't keep logs. > On the verge of being sold...

    Coincidences? It would be good for OVPN support to clarify this.

    Very bad move on OVPN's part. Will lose all trust from those who use it.

    Coincidences? Or is it the lobbies acting to prevent resilient VPNs and so they buy them?

  • A bit more context.

    Here the official announcement:
    https://www.ovpn.com/en/blog/next-chapter-for-ovpn
    They got bought by Pango.

    https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/pango-0f83
    So instead of Swedish legislation it will be US-Based.

    https://www.pango.co/products/
    And they already own Betternet, VPN 360, Ultra VPN

  • sandozsandoz Veteran
    edited May 2023

    @Ananchoreta said:
    A bit more context.

    Here the official announcement:
    https://www.ovpn.com/en/blog/next-chapter-for-ovpn
    They got bought by Pango.

    https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/pango-0f83
    So instead of Swedish legislation it will be US-Based.

    https://www.pango.co/products/
    And they already own Betternet, VPN 360, Ultra VPN

    Swedish law > To US law is a big mistake. The founder did it wrong and people won't trust it anymore.

    It will become a shit for privacy. All of that is in the Graph.

  • kaitkait Member

    @sandoz said: It will become a shit for privacy. All of that is in the Graph.

    Yeah, Swedish law is way better, look at the police raid on Mullvad, they left empty handed.

    raid
    update

  • CabbageCabbage Member

    Goes to https://www.pango.co/products/
    1st product is Hotspot Shield

    Eww, what the hell? Of all companies they could have gone with, it's that? This is really odd, they should have known that.
    Oh well. Any opinions regarding AirVPN and Proton, as in some good reasons as to why I shouldn't choose one of them over Mullvad? These three seems like the only options left.

  • tomletomle Member, LIR
    edited May 2023

    I'd like to recommend AzireVPN, also a Swedish company. They don't have that many locations but it's because they only use their own, colocated hardware, which is good because rented hardware/VPS can always be exploited by the operator.
    No hard drives, they physically destroy the USB ports to avoid that anyone can plug something in to get access to the server.
    They also have a blog post about it:
    https://blog.azirevpn.com/buy-dont-rent-your-vpn-servers/

    Edit: To clarify, not affiliated with them in any way, just a happy customer.

  • VoidVoid Member

    @tomle said:
    I'd like to recommend AzireVPN, also a Swedish company. They don't have that many locations but it's because they only use their own, colocated hardware, which is good because rented hardware/VPS can always be exploited by the operator.
    No hard drives, they physically destroy the USB ports to avoid that anyone can plug something in to get access to the server.
    They also have a blog post about it:
    https://blog.azirevpn.com/buy-dont-rent-your-vpn-servers/

    Edit: To clarify, not affiliated with them in any way, just a happy customer.


    So are they saying there is no access control system of physical and digital security measures to prevent unauthorized access?
    Also I don’t see how colo is better than rented argument is valid. Having no disks and USB ports is cool but still the servers should have ports to which the cables go in, yes? And they are collocating which means putting servers in someone’s DC. What stops the DC staff from doing something like connecting a hardware device to those ports ?

  • FlashFlash Member

    @gbzret4d said:
    What do you think about about trust.zone?

    You can get 3 days trial. Register and enjoy or not!!! :o
    My opinion is it's a shit.

    Thanked by 1Cabbage
  • @sandoz said: Still undecided by all indications. But if they are bought they will lose all credibility in my view.

    why?

  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    @duckeeyuck said:

    @sandoz said: Still undecided by all indications. But if they are bought they will lose all credibility in my view.

    why?

    If you look into it properly, it is a danger to privacy. Since they have to obey American laws. Imagine what it's like to deal with a DMCA, they'll ignore it are they? Being a law of the united states, they have to obey or at least comply.

    Otherwise they will get in trouble or have servers confiscated. A little research will show.

    Moving the headquarters from Sweden to the US, is a red flag. I only see red flags everywhere.

    Read what the founder of OVPN said on the blog, he believes it will continue to have quality, however it is a company located in the US and with some business there.

    Here is just one example (just search more and more easily find):
    https://torrentfreak.com/us-lawmakers-want-ftc-to-crack-down-on-overpromising-and-dishonest-vpns-220718/
    https://torrentfreak.com/ipvanish-no-logging-vpn-led-homeland-security-to-comcast-user-180505/
    https://torrentfreak.com/hosting-company-defeats-filmmakers-vpn-piracy-lawsuit-in-court-211214/ (US acting)
    https://torrentfreak.com/movie-companies-want-vpns-to-log-user-data-and-disconnect-pirates-210830/ (Oh no, US again in Virgina)

    It is a shot in the foot to sell OVPN itself when it gained fame and demonstrated in court that it has no logs, good strategy on the part of those who buy the company. Customers will base it on history, months later they can go bad.

    I would run away from OVPN, in the blog it says it has already been sold? Not sure, either way it's still a red flag.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

  • @sandoz said: If you look into it properly, it is a danger to privacy. Since they have to obey American laws. Imagine what it's like to deal with a DMCA, they'll ignore it are they? Being a law of the united states, they have to obey or at least comply.

    Privacy =! Right to piracy tho?

  • sandozsandoz Veteran

    @duckeeyuck said:

    @sandoz said: If you look into it properly, it is a danger to privacy. Since they have to obey American laws. Imagine what it's like to deal with a DMCA, they'll ignore it are they? Being a law of the united states, they have to obey or at least comply.

    Privacy =! Right to piracy tho?

    That is literally a excuse to monitorize VPN services and control what users can see and what they can't see. Censorship.

    If you think in that way then privacy shouldn't exist. I'm afraid that you have doors in your home.

  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    Being American based shouldn't really matter if they're no-logging and don't require personal information about you.

    Sweden's privacy reputation mostly comes from their banking laws, not digital/online privacy. Your traffic is getting scraped no matter what you do or who you are anywhere you are in the world, I'm willing to bet. Just always assume you're too small to care about.

    Maybe I'm wrong and they'll block access to known torrent sites, but I doubt that.

    Either way, never used them, don't torrent, don't care.

  • @Nanja said:
    Is this company better than all of those companies with lifetime plans that are usually posted here?

    yep. but please stay away.

  • There are no changes planned for your current OVPN account and subscription, it will continue to function just as it always has with the same add-ons and number of allowed devices. OVPN will continue to operate as its own individual service. Your customer data as outlined in our privacy policy is still hosted on infrastructure operated by OVPN, and our VPN infrastructure will continue to function with the same high security practices we have always employed.

  • @sandoz said: That is literally a excuse to monitorize VPN services and control what users can see and what they can't see. Censorship.

    Who said DMCA requests are done thru spying on vpns lol?

    You torrent with a vpn for example, some company representing them asks a tracker for ips related to X torrent, company goes thru legal procedure so gov gives an order for logs, then you get wrecked.

    It has nothing to do with monitoring your traffic lol, yet you make such an exact conclusion of something you don't understand lol.
    Pretty much the only way they could monitor you is thru MITM but that's unrelated to it being in the U.S. lol >.>

  • @SirNeo said:

    @kait said:
    @treesmokah would have great info about this stuff.

    If they get oVPN they will be apart of a big mommy company that owns hotspot shield and some other free user-data selling vpn's, bad move from oVPN, and with WeVPN stopping as well (at least wevpn is redirecting customers to windscribe)

    Unfortunately he was banned. Don't know why :(

    thank jeebus

  • @Flash said:

    @gbzret4d said:
    What do you think about about trust.zone?

    You can get 3 days trial. Register and enjoy or not!!! :o
    My opinion is it's a shit.

    Can you tell me some details about them? Speed?
    Im searching for a vpn provider which provides proxy support or a similair solution without being connected with their openvpn/wireguard access

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