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Providers and 2FA

jtkjtk Member

In another thread, there were conflicting, anecdotal reports about how widely 2FA has been deployed by providers. So as not to derail that thread into a tangent,here is a new one.

2FA (aka two-factor authentication) can mean different things. Here I'm referring to TOTP-based 2FA (i.e., Google Authenticator, Authy) unless otherwise noted. Furthermore, there may be differences between a client portal and a "control panel" authentication. I'm considering what most people see first, the client portal (e.g., billing, contact, support). Corrections and additions to this thread welcome.

Providers without 2FA:

Comments

  • VoidVoid Member

    many more providers don't have 2FA for SolusVM control panel

    Thanked by 1DeadlyChemist
  • @jmaxwell said:
    many more providers don't have 2FA for SolusVM control panel

    SolusVM 1 does not has 2FA feature?

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited April 2023

    There are many providers without 2FA on their client area. This is bad especially nowadays, when we have paid hackers due to worldwide conflicts, as well as leaked information of customers. Maybe we should create a list of shame.

  • MannDudeMannDude Host Rep, Veteran

    We accept and encourage it on your billing portal (WHMCS) and VPS control panel (Virtualizor).

    If your provider uses these pieces of software and doesn't have 2FA enabled, they hate you. (It's a click of a button to enable)

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    BuyVM has it for both billing & Stallion.

    Francisco

  • Incog & BuyVM premium

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  • 1gservers1gservers Member, Patron Provider

    1GServers supports TOPT-based 2FA for all clients.

  • Don_KeedicDon_Keedic Member
    edited April 2023

    Racknerd - TOTP - Secures Billing PII / No 2FA for VPS Management

    Should probably add a praise list of providers who do offer it as well (and the differences between them)

    Praise List:
    AlphaVPS - TOTP - Secures billing PII/VPS management (VPS Management Only Accessible via Client Area)

    EasyVM - TOTP - Secures billing PII/VPS management (VPS Management Only Accessible via Client Area)

    SecureDragon - TOTP - Secures billing PII/VPS management (VPS Management Only Accessible via Client Area)

    ExtraVM - TOTP - Secures billing PII/VPS management (VPS Management Only Accessible via Client Area) - 2 OTP Tokens (client area/vps management)

    Crunchbits - TOTP - Secures billing PII/VPS management (VPS Management Only Accessible via Client Area) - 2 OTP Tokens (client area/vps management)

    BuyVM - TOTP - Secures billing PII/VPS management - 2 OTP Tokens (client area/vps management)

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  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited April 2023

    Providers from LET that I noticed without 2FA so far:

    Please correct me if I am wrong or if I am blind and could not see the option on a provider.

    Thanked by 1kuroit
  • DataIdeas-JoshDataIdeas-Josh Member, Patron Provider

    We carry 2fa for both our billing and vps panel.

  • @default said:
    Providers from LET that I noticed without 2FA so far:

    Please correct me if I am wrong or if I am blind and could not see the option on a provider.

    Racknerd provides 2FA for the client/billing panel, but not for the vps management panel.

  • Hosthatch and Terrahost both run custom panels which fully support 2FA, well done.

  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    Anyone who uses VirtFusion is also covered 💯👌🏼

    Thanked by 2VirtFusion kuroit
  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited April 2023

    Usually providers adopt the time-based one-time password mechanism. It would also be great if more providers could add YubiKey too, if possible (I know this might be too much to ask).

  • defaultdefault Veteran
    edited April 2023

    @jbiloh @trewq @raindog308

    In a modern era of security, I kindly request a rule for all providers of LET to have the option of 2FA when applying for their provider tag. This would make customers feel safer against hackers and abusers, especially when selling things like hosting data, email, or servers.

  • JasonhyperhostJasonhyperhost Member, Patron Provider

    in this day & age would expect all providers / companies you deal with to offer 2FA options , does not have to be forced but giving the customers the option when they 1st sign up then forcing after a short while of being a customer to save any annoyance on sign up.

    we offer 2FA on our Clients Panel (WHMCS) & our Virtfusion

    we currently do Time based , but will soon offer Yubikey too!

  • jbilohjbiloh Administrator, Veteran

    @default said:
    @jbiloh @trewq @raindog308

    In a modern era of security, I kindly request a rule for all providers of LET to have the option of 2FA when applying for their provider tag. This would make customers feel safer against hackers and abusers, especially when selling things like hosting data, email, or servers.

    2fa is very important, agreed.

    Will think on this suggestion.

    Thanked by 1default
  • @default said:
    Usually providers adopt the time-based one-time password mechanism. It would also be great if more providers could add YubiKey too, if possible (I know this might be too much to ask).

    I second this notion. YubiKey should be an advertised feature. OVH have it by default but (the way I understand it) they used an old api call which Chrome does not accept anymore.
    @hosthatch Have 2FA but no Yubikey yet.

  • kuroitkuroit Member, Host Rep

    @default said:
    Providers from LET that I noticed without 2FA so far:

    Please correct me if I am wrong or if I am blind and could not see the option on a provider.

    We have it enabled on WHMCS, it took me sometime to find it on the new theme though :D
    And we use VirtFusion for control panel, so already covered there ;)

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    Update:

    Myw.pt @MikePT seems to have a 2FA page working, but it's somewhat hidden (not in menus).

    https://myw.pt/manager/index.php?rp=/user/security

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • A question for the providers offering 2FA, do you use the implementation of your billing system/control panel or an external service such as AWS Cognito, Azure AD B2C, Okta, etc.?

  • nqservicesnqservices Member
    edited May 2023

    Seems to happen a lot (the lack of 2FA) with providers using Clientexec, at least on the client area.

    Two that use and do not have 2FA available on the client area (at least I did not saw the option):
    @NetDynamics24
    @jonesolutions

  • inlandinland Member

    I wonder how many providers will happily disable the 2FA if they see a support request and a photoshopped ID.

  • similar to ansible, try using saltstack
    https://docs.saltproject.io/en/getstarted/index.html

  • jenkkijenkki Member
    edited May 2023

    Sounds like no IPv6 no fun, and now no 2FA no fun? Folks prefer lock yourself into troubles.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @default said:
    Update:

    Myw.pt @MikePT seems to have a 2FA page working, but it's somewhat hidden (not in menus).

    https://myw.pt/manager/index.php?rp=/user/security

    Will sort ASAP mate.

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