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Database as a service
Hi
I'm looking to host a dotnet core API which relies upon a relational database (MS SQL, MySql and Postgres would be fine).
Can anyone recommend a inexpensive database server with backups. I was thinking about putting on a VM, but a managed server would be ideal
The size would be low (maybe 10Meg per month of data being added), the queries would be a little complex joins aggregations etc) but low in volume
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It's an addon for an (inexpensive) VPS, but BuyVM has an offloaded SQL option for $1/mo - https://wiki.buyvm.net/doku.php/sharedsql
For your use case, you'd be within the ToS if you were wanting to use the database outside of BuyVM.
So $3.50/mo for the 1gig KVM Slice in Las Vegas or New York + $1.00 for the offloaded SQL server = $4.50/mo.
"We keep a rotating 7 day, full backup, snapshot of our SQL servers. Backups are taken at 4:00 AM"
That should cover all of your bases. I can't speak on using the offloaded SQL (I haven't used it), but his other products are top notch and I'm sure that wouldn't be an exception.
planetscale
https://supabase.com/
https://www.scaleway.com/en/database/
https://www.mongodb.com/atlas/database (what we're using as a business)
https://www.vultr.com/products/managed-databases/
https://www.digitalocean.com/products/managed-databases
https://upstash.com (also what we're using for redis in case you're interested)
this is the way
don't, absolutely ASS service and insane pricing compared to offered product. selffhosted db's on small vps perform way way better than $100+ package there. you can selfhost ur own db with replication across a few vps from ex. buyvm with anycast ip. frequent snapshots and offsite backups, for redundancy and shiet. even with every cost of "selfhosted" but good sql db, it will be still less than most "managed" solutions from corpos.
Every cost - time
in my case, anything - even the most expensive plan you can "buy", it was not able to suit my performance requirements. i do not know if it says much, but assuming cheap vps solved it for me, it may be easier for you to imagine how shit their service is. even expensive plans have a limit of ~500 requests per second which for most advanced applications, is not enough.
If the volume is this low, why not just embed a sqlite on the host.
Thank planetscale and buyvm look like decent options, as does SQLite
My only slight concern re planetscale would be the $30 a month jump from free to first paid tier (but I guess at the usage that takes you there, your not running it on a super cheap VPS)
Microsoft Azure offers 12 months for free which you can give it a try I guess?
However it violates the forum rules when you are paying for it, so... Feel free to delete my comment
SQLite is pretty much the complete opposite of database as a service!
Speaking of DBaaS, have you seen the ridiculous pricing of Vercel's new Postgres offering? It's unbelievable
Your right, but at least it should be workable in a low-end VM, and all I need to do backup wise is copy 1 file (I think). Not ideal though
Don't copy the file directly.
Firstly, make sure you're using WAL mode
pragma journal_mode = wal;so that readers and writers don't block each other.Then you can create a copy using
vacuum into "copy.db";which means that the local copy is only written to by one process and it will be in a consistent state once the vacuum is complete.Here's one of my scripts to do a backup:
I then back these copies up with borg just as I would any other file.
I find other serverless postgres
https://bit.io/
https://neon.tech/
i used buyvm offload mysql, they have great performance
Bit.io look good too(not a sharp rise when out if fre tier), a shame most if good options are US hosted (I'm in UK) but I think that should still work
By the way, there are some client-server databases that use SQLite as a database engine. For example, SQLiteDBMS or SQLiteServer.
However, if your site engine does not use multiple processes (like php), you can use plain SQLite without loss in performance.
where is my database hosted if they offer "Serverless databases" and why do i need to pay if i'm not using their servers?!
AWS regions
AWS us-east-1 (Northern Virginia) — us-east
AWS us-west-2 (Oregon) — us-west
AWS ap-northeast-1 (Tokyo) — ap-northeast
AWS ap-south-1 (Mumbai) — ap-south
AWS ap-southeast-1 (Singapore) — ap-southeast
AWS ap-southeast-2 (Sydney) — aws-ap-southeast-2
AWS eu-central-1 (Frankfurt) — eu-central
AWS eu-west-1 (Dublin) — eu-west
AWS eu-west-2 (London) — aws-eu-west-2
AWS sa-east-1 (Sao Paulo) — aws-sa-east-1
GCP regions
GCP regions are in beta and currently have some limitations, which you can read about in our GCP documentation.
(Beta) GCP us-central1 (Council Bluffs, Iowa) — gcp-us-central1
(Beta) GCP us-east4 (Ashburn, Virginia) — gcp-us-east4
(Beta) GCP northamerica-northeast1 (Montréal, Québec, Canada) — gcp-northamerica-northeast1
They have Free Tier, not need to pay within limit , if is not your answer maybe use https://neon.tech only pay when using Compute time, they also have Free Tier
500 requests per second? what?
A single sqlite database can handle more.
https://www.arubacloud.com/database-as-a-service.aspx
I think they are the cheapest for your needs
17 types of managed db available here (including sql server), starting at $10/month with monitoring, backups, auto updates and more:
https://elest.io/fully-managed-services
serverless means, you don't have to manage the server. They do it for you. You don't have access to server, and you don't have a server. Hence serverless.
When you create database, you can choose at which location your database is hosted. E.G. Singapore.
In term of price and what you got, nothing comes close to planetscale as of right now.
Don't. General rule of thumb is, if you can't put your database on shared hosting, don't put it on sharedsql. I mean it's $1 a month. it's basically shared hosting.
not even close, you have to manage how much space you need, how much cpu and ram you want to use. The point of going serverless is you don't have to do that, and you actually pay for what you use. No more idling resources.
Indeed, but it appears to be all the OP needs.
SQLite can scale amazingly unless you have multiple writers fighting over rows.
OP says "The size would be low (maybe 10Meg per month of data being added), the queries would be a little complex joins aggregations etc) but low in volume". BuyVM's hosted MySQL would likely be fine for him.