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Mullvad vpn and the tor project team up to release the mullvad browser
Mullvad VPN and the Tor Project today present the release of the Mullvad Browser, a privacy-focused web browser designed to be used with a trustworthy VPN instead of the Tor Network.
“We want to free the internet from mass surveillance and a VPN alone is not enough to achieve privacy. From our perspective there has been a gap in the market for those who want to run a privacy-focused browser as good as the Tor Project’s but with a VPN instead of the Tor Network," says Jan Jonsson, CEO at Mullvad VPN.
next browser?
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DWC.
Can't find the source code, and they appear to release something while their core servers are sleeping.
What would be a good use case for this. Perhaps for downloading Linux ISO's? Nothing stops me from just paying for a VPN or setting up dynamic ssh tunnel to get the ISO's though.
https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/tree/mullvad-browser-102.9.0esr-12.0-2
My bad, was looking at main branch.
It does not include a VPN. Its basically Tor Browser without Tor.
It may be useful for other networks though, like I2P.
People "hacked" Tor Browser in order to use I2P in it, now they don't have to.
Same, it was mention there.
About privacy focused services
I had somewhat of a quick thought about creating a Proton Mail like service but that actually don’t log IPs at all.
But after studying that area of law, ”interpersonal communication services” have to store user data and VPNs don’t.
Laws are really written by people who have never signed up for a newsletter without watching a tutorial on it first, but I guess that’s also why there’s loopholes everywhere so maybe I shouldn’t complain.
That idea obiously won’t see any light of day though.
from mullvad:
I guess it's just a more convenient way to have an anonymous browser/incognito mode that's routed through a VPN. Less anonymous, but way faster than Tor and could be used for folks who want privacy when accessing websites, while not having to fiddle around with split tunneling, downloading other anonymous browsers, etc.
In one way I agree but in another less anonymous is a strong claim.
According to swedish law, a VPN provider don’t have to save any browing history or anything like that.
So the only way I imagine something you do being exposed because of the VPN and it somehow leaking your data; it must be because someone managed to breach the services somehow.
And I guess then Mullvad would be an easier target because it’s centralized but honestly Tor is centralized too, the difference is anyone can operate a node; and I guess that has some in theory potential downsides to it as well.
Why would Tor agree to have their name on a 3rd party and unrelated privacy product?
So, hardened FireFox (which you can do yourself) with Tor's name recognition and Mullvad's commercial VPN?
The Tor browser by itself would likely be much better for privacy than this setup, so it's strange that Tor would be cool with this (imo).
money
funny thing is, that the blog post dates to 03 march, so 1 month to day and they announce mullvad browser?
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/3/3/mullvad-becomes-highest-level-of-tor-member-shallot/
https://www.torproject.org/about/membership/
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Mullvad donated quite a lot of money to Tor, I guess that could be one of the reason winkwink
It's advertising. No less, no more.
There's no difference between using the VPN app or the browser VPN app. It's just a VPN app with Mullvad and Tor branding.
https://blog.torproject.org/releasing-mullvad-browser/
Noscript alone brakes so many websites. All modern websites use javascript.
/rant
(((WARNING: NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT, everyone offended should send an email [email protected] - they are the ones responsible for my word, they made me do that, they control me)))
All gay websites use javascript. 99% websites that use it - don't need it, CSS is powerful as fuck and if the devs weren't lazy and didn't use flavour of the week frameworks, we've been living in a better world.
I do not want to shill for a literal drugs marketplace, but just go to https://incogbot.io/ and generate a tor mirror then open it with tor browser with JS disabled. You will see what a wonderful job Incognito Market devs did with all the animations and other shit, everything without a single line of JS. Libre forum - https://forum.incogbot.io/, it also has neat animations and other shit - completely without JS.
I just fucking hate it when "drug lords" have to show wagecuck frontend devs how to do their work. If there is no reason to use JS - don't fucking use it, learn CSS you mindless fuck. "Darknet" sites are the only ones doing the web in a sane way, all - including Dread and now gone Alphabay(fuck desnake, greedy jew).
You can do 99% of "modern web dev" including responsive designs, live fetched data - all with clean HTML and CSS. @MannDude did excellent work with his website, sadly whmcs requires some JS but its not his fault really.
I'm personally kickstarting a VPS and billing panel for my own use - all without JS and other retarded shit. I want the web to be pure. I do not know if I will ever release it publicly, but It will be used by my current clients in near future.
JavaScript and WASM is what destroyed the web, together with soy latte drinking, dick takers and woke mac users doing "frontend work" because they can't fucking handle standard HTML and CSS.
I will die sooner than we have proper JS and WASM sandboxing implemented in to the browsers. FUCK THIS SHIT.
rant/
I don't know if it is easy to use, is it free or paid?
its free, it does not include a vpn.
its basically a Tor Browser without Tor integration, instead of Tor there are a lot of perks for mullvad vpn users - however its still usable without a mullvad vpn(paid).
I tried, but the browser cannot access the Internet,
It seems that their browsers can only be used after they are connected to their vpn.
So their browser is useless!
You tried checking your internet? It doesn't require using their VPN.
It's just "hardened" firefox that has the mullvad, ublock origin, and noscript extensions pre-installed. I'm using it with my own custom SOCKS proxy and it works fine.
The mullvad extension doesn't do anything unless you're already connected to one of their servers from your machine.
Then their browser doesn't do much, either.
In contrast, I prefer tor browser,
This can be directly connected and used!
Because of their anti-fingerprinting and anti-tracking capabilities, both the Mullvad browser and the Tor browser make it appear that you are a fresh new user each time you open a session to a website using those browsers. That's how they work and what makes them different than the more familiar browsers.
The Mullvad browser shares the same anti-fingerprinting and anti-tracking capabilities as the Tor browser, but the Mullvad browser does not use the Tor onion network. This gives Mullvad browser a huge performance boost over the Tor browser. The tradeoff is that the Mullvad browser gives up much of the security and privacy offered by Tor browser's encrypted onion routing. (I am concerned that people may be misinformed and rely on Mullvad when they should use Tor for their own safety.)
The Mullvad browser works fine over the ordinary internet. It works with a VPN or without a VPN, just like any other browser. I tried it.
(In addition, the Mullvad browser offers a plug-in to connect to the Mullvad VPN. That feature seems designed to help Mullvad sell VPN subscriptions. In my opinion, Mullvad is not special compared with other VPNs.)
Probably another Firefox browser with some extra plugin/extension, what's call "unique browser" (X Browser), while it's just another FireFox with some extension. :$
It is a Firefox fork that offers a variety of privacy-focused defaults and modifications designed to prevent browser fingerprinting. Firefox lacks adequate default privacy settings and has notable vulnerabilities when it comes to preventing fingerprinting. Tor browser has many anti fingerprinting options by default but it isn’t built with clearnet access in mind. Mullvad's browser bridges this gap as users don’t have to tweak Firefox themselves as they get a hardended browser out of the box.