Single core like on Xeon v2/v3 and just 6x scaling with 14x cores...
That's very bad if server was idle. Its like 4cores on every other provider.
4K I/O is also bad, just 1-2% of AX41 score lol.
@AXYZE said: Single core like >on Xeon v2/v3 and just 6x scaling with 14x cores...
That's very bad if server was idle. Its like 4cores on every other provider.
4K I/O is also bad, just 1-2% of AX41 score lol.
RS line is sooooo much better.
Right, CPU performance is not that great but should be fit for the use case (shared dev server, not production). Lots of non-HDD RAID10 storage at a good price.
@AXYZE said: Single core like >on Xeon v2/v3 and just 6x scaling with 14x cores...
That's very bad if server was idle. Its like 4cores on every other provider.
4K I/O is also bad, just 1-2% of AX41 score lol.
RS line is sooooo much better.
Right, CPU performance is not that great but should be fit for the use case (shared dev server, not production). Lots of non-HDD RAID10 storage at a good price.
Its kinda weird, I just tested my Xeon V4 VPS and I get 900 singlecore in Geekbench 6. Its almost double compared to yours.
You can check steal while doing GB ('st' metric in 'top'), maybe it has very high steal? If not then maybe their Ubuntu template is bad. Xeon v4 shouldnt be almost 2x faster lol.
Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz
CPU cores : 6 @ 2594.400 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM : 5.8 GiB
Swap : 1024.0 MiB
Disk : 63.9 GiB
Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel : 5.10.0-20-amd64
VM Type : KVM
Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test | Value
|
Single Core | 951
Multi Core | 4140
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/425450
My 6vCore oldass Xeon v3 VPS completly destroys your 14vCore EPYC...
Either RunCloud slowns down everything so much or your node has major problems.
Write to support, this kind of CPU performance is big joke.
It's cheap and won't get better. Afaik they indeed use old xeon and those won't boost. It's their shared VPS lineup after all.
Scaling is also quite meh. However, it's simply a wrong comparison if you only pick a single feature. That greencloud vps is a rare special offer and not everyday available. Also does not have a quarter of the RAM or even 5% of that disk space...
Why Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 with 10 dedicated cores is not good as AX41-NVMe just 6 cores? I do not understand AX41 YABS shows it 12 cores. Is 1 core AMD Ryzen 5 faster than 2 cores AMD EPYC 7702P? I am quite new to this.
@huymike00 On dedicated AX41 You have 6 cores, each support 2 cpu threads so You have 12 cpu threads in total. Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 give You 10 cpu threads (those are no real cpu cores! - You get cpu threads [or in terms of virtualization You get vcores]). Add on top of that Ryzen will always beat Epyc in terms of single core performance and that is why AX41 has better CPU score than Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 (12 threads with higher performance vs 10 threads with lower performance).
@Ponury_Typ said: @huymike00 On dedicated AX41 You have 6 cores, each support 2 cpu threads so You have 12 cpu threads in total. Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 give You 10 cpu threads (those are no real cpu cores! - You get cpu threads [or in terms of virtualization You get vcores]). Add on top of that Ryzen will always beat Epyc in terms of single core performance and that is why AX41 has better CPU score than Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 (12 threads with higher performance vs 10 threads with lower performance).
@Kassem said:
Steal max while GB5/GB6 were running was 9.4.
That's with RunCloud services running on it now.
You think it is worth checking with support?
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# Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
# v2023-02-27 #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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Sun Mar 5 04:59:26 PM EST 2023
Basic System Information:
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Uptime : 3 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes
Processor : QEMU Virtual CPU version 2.5+
CPU cores : 14 @ 1996.248 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM : 35.2 GiB
Swap : 0.0 KiB
Disk : 1.5 TiB
Distro : Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
Kernel : 5.15.0-67-generic
VM Type : KVM
Basic Network Information:
---------------------------------
Protocol : IPv6
ISP : netcup GmbH
ASN : AS197540 netcup GmbH
Host : NETCUP-GMBH
Location : Karlsruhe, Baden-Wurttemberg (BW)
Country : Germany
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
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Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
Read | 13.66 MB/s (3.4k) | 345.09 MB/s (5.3k)
Write | 13.68 MB/s (3.4k) | 346.91 MB/s (5.4k)
Total | 27.34 MB/s (6.8k) | 692.01 MB/s (10.8k)
| |
Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
Read | 1.34 GB/s (2.6k) | 1.49 GB/s (1.4k)
Write | 1.42 GB/s (2.7k) | 1.59 GB/s (1.5k)
Total | 2.77 GB/s (5.4k) | 3.09 GB/s (3.0k)
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
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Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | busy | 927 Mbits/sec | 22.0 ms
Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | busy | 950 Mbits/sec | 19.9 ms
NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | busy | 953 Mbits/sec | 11.0 ms
Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 790 Mbits/sec | 2.11 Mbits/sec | 188 ms
Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 800 Mbits/sec | 319 Mbits/sec | 90.2 ms
Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 650 Mbits/sec | 177 Mbits/sec | 127 ms
Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 587 Mbits/sec | 370 Mbits/sec | 157 ms
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
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Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 964 Mbits/sec | 251 Mbits/sec | 22.1 ms
Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | 968 Mbits/sec | 931 Mbits/sec | 34.8 ms
NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | busy | 940 Mbits/sec | 10.9 ms
Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 807 Mbits/sec | 5.01 Mbits/sec | 188 ms
Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 778 Mbits/sec | 321 Mbits/sec | 90.2 ms
Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 649 Mbits/sec | 289 Mbits/sec | 127 ms
Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 583 Mbits/sec | 256 Mbits/sec | 157 ms
Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
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Test | Value
|
Single Core | 661
Multi Core | 4070
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/20815413
Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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Test | Value
|
Single Core | 561
Multi Core | 2811
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/424672
YABS completed in 20 min 18 sec
netcup VPS 6000 G10
I suggest that switch to RS line. VPS has shared CPU and the new line prices always beated by RS servers on netcup-sonderangebote. Good idea to ask a node migration for your instance at support but if you got a new noisy neighbor you will got steal too. If steal and CPU performance important RS line unbeatable. I got RS1000 g9.5 from last year easter offer so 4 EPYC 7702P CPU, 8 GB of RAM and 320 GB disk near 10 Eur / mo, billed every six month.
Keep in mind that netcup VPS and Root Server are shared too so every resource shared. I have a Kimsufi KS-LE-1 from BlackFriday. This arch is older than EPYC 7702P and no NVMe disks, but gives a very stable performance. Netcup shared, so the performance in the 80% of time better, but in 20% worse e.g. someone other uses the disk, network etc. And CPU cores dedicated but the entire CPU shared, so my 4 cores performance depends on other cores usage.
Finaly, here's YABS from an RS1000 g9.5 that used in production (nginx, PHP, nodejs, liquidsoap, databases etc.)
Comments
AX41:
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 1207
Multi Core | 5573
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/20706692
Please note this is not a clean
AX41-NVMe Finland, Ubuntu 22.04 + RAID1
Thanks. That's not using RAID1 and the server is busy, right?
Thanks. That looks great. Is it idling or running something?
It is raid 1 but with with 4 active vms running
Nginx reverse proxy serving NodeJS + express app for Twitch streamers. Not much traffic, but its not idling either
Netcup RS4000 9.5 (SE)
AX-41 nvme
SE stands for what? I don't see that version here: https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/#root-server-details
Special Edition, it has 2TB disk instead of 1TB, reduced price and a 12 month contract. It's a great product and has better network then AX-41.
No one got YABS for
VPS 6000 G10
?Here is the YABS for it in case anyone is interested:
Network speed improved after enabling BBR and 5.15 kernel.
Single core like on Xeon v2/v3 and just 6x scaling with 14x cores...
That's very bad if server was idle. Its like 4cores on every other provider.
4K I/O is also bad, just 1-2% of AX41 score lol.
RS line is sooooo much better.
Awesome
Right, CPU performance is not that great but should be fit for the use case (shared dev server, not production). Lots of non-HDD RAID10 storage at a good price.
AX41 has a really high cost performance, and it's a dedicated server as well.
Its kinda weird, I just tested my Xeon V4 VPS and I get 900 singlecore in Geekbench 6. Its almost double compared to yours.
You can check steal while doing GB ('st' metric in 'top'), maybe it has very high steal? If not then maybe their Ubuntu template is bad. Xeon v4 shouldnt be almost 2x faster lol.
Steal max while GB5/GB6 were running was
9.4
.That's with RunCloud services running on it now.
You think it is worth checking with support?
netcup VPS 6000 G10
GreenCloud 6666NL promo, $66/2years
My 6vCore oldass Xeon v3 VPS completly destroys your 14vCore EPYC...
Either RunCloud slowns down everything so much or your node has major problems.
Write to support, this kind of CPU performance is big joke.
It's cheap and won't get better. Afaik they indeed use old xeon and those won't boost. It's their shared VPS lineup after all.
Scaling is also quite meh. However, it's simply a wrong comparison if you only pick a single feature. That greencloud vps is a rare special offer and not everyday available. Also does not have a quarter of the RAM or even 5% of that disk space...
Why Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 with 10 dedicated cores is not good as AX41-NVMe just 6 cores? I do not understand AX41 YABS shows it 12 cores. Is 1 core AMD Ryzen 5 faster than 2 cores AMD EPYC 7702P? I am quite new to this.
@huymike00 On dedicated AX41 You have 6 cores, each support 2 cpu threads so You have 12 cpu threads in total. Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 give You 10 cpu threads (those are no real cpu cores! - You get cpu threads [or in terms of virtualization You get vcores]). Add on top of that Ryzen will always beat Epyc in terms of single core performance and that is why AX41 has better CPU score than Netcup RS 4000 G9.5 (12 threads with higher performance vs 10 threads with lower performance).
Thank you so much, @Ponury_Typ.
I suggest that switch to RS line. VPS has shared CPU and the new line prices always beated by RS servers on netcup-sonderangebote. Good idea to ask a node migration for your instance at support but if you got a new noisy neighbor you will got steal too. If steal and CPU performance important RS line unbeatable. I got RS1000 g9.5 from last year easter offer so 4 EPYC 7702P CPU, 8 GB of RAM and 320 GB disk near 10 Eur / mo, billed every six month.
Keep in mind that netcup VPS and Root Server are shared too so every resource shared. I have a Kimsufi KS-LE-1 from BlackFriday. This arch is older than EPYC 7702P and no NVMe disks, but gives a very stable performance. Netcup shared, so the performance in the 80% of time better, but in 20% worse e.g. someone other uses the disk, network etc. And CPU cores dedicated but the entire CPU shared, so my 4 cores performance depends on other cores usage.
Finaly, here's YABS from an RS1000 g9.5 that used in production (nginx, PHP, nodejs, liquidsoap, databases etc.)
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Yet-Another-Bench-Script
v2023-03-24
https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script
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Sun Mar 26 18:16:16 CEST 2023
Basic System Information:
Uptime : 35 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes
Processor : AMD EPYC 7702P 64-Core Processor
CPU cores : 4 @ 1996.248 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
RAM : 7.8 GiB
Swap : 0.0 KiB
Disk : 313.9 GiB
Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel : 5.10.0-21-amd64
VM Type : KVM
Net Online : IPv4 & IPv6
IPv6 Network Information:
ISP : netcup GmbH
ASN : AS197540 netcup GmbH
Host : NETCUP-GMBH
Location : Karlsruhe, Baden-Wurttemberg (BW)
Country : Germany
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 1055
Multi Core | 3142
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/690001
YABS completed in 14 min 18 sec
An RS1000, and an RS2000, both idling.
Update: added I/O tests.
RS1000:
RS2000 SE