Uh Sorry thats why i was not familiar, ITS NOT LINUX. The server is Windows Server2016
oh ok. How is the vps? feels snappy?
how is the internet speed?
For what i use it its fast. The internet pretty well too. Im looking for anything cheaper at least $1 less will be fine. If anyone know let me know. Regards
Uh Sorry thats why i was not familiar, ITS NOT LINUX. The server is Windows Server2016
oh ok. How is the vps? feels snappy?
how is the internet speed?
For what i use it its fast. The internet pretty well too. Im looking for anything cheaper at least $1 less will be fine. If anyone know let me know. Regards
Thanks for the response. Will try to get an experience of this vps soon
@Hxxx said:
Cheaper to colo baby. Think about it (insert meme here). Do the math.
Depends, I like being spread out across regions. I could buy a 1u e3 server for an "edge" location and then colo it for $50/month, or I could just grab a $10 VM that has roughly the same amount of power, and scale up/down as needed
NEVER EVER... A $10 /MO VM will have more power than a FULL DEDI E3. You dont know what you are even saying.
@Hxxx said:
Cheaper to colo baby. Think about it (insert meme here). Do the math.
Depends, I like being spread out across regions. I could buy a 1u e3 server for an "edge" location and then colo it for $50/month, or I could just grab a $10 VM that has roughly the same amount of power, and scale up/down as needed
NEVER EVER... A $10 /MO VM will have more power than a FULL DEDI E3. You dont know what you are even saying.
NEVER.
I currently pay ~$20/month for each E3 I have (currently 4). That includes a /30 of IPv4, power, 10T of bandwidth, etc. These prices are mostly possible because of power costs in the US compared to the EU. In the EU, increased cost of power alone would bring it up to ~$50ish (at least last time I checked). My E3 systems are pretty simple, just a 1270v3, 32g RAM, and a 240g SSD. I use maybe 80GB of storage on each, so ~100gb storage would be fine. I mostly went with 240G for the extra endurance. I stopped the workloads currently running on one of my E3 systems so I could bench it for you (I know the SSD is slow, it's an older datacenter drive and I had a lot of spares).
Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime : 79 days, 17 hours, 16 minutes
Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1270 v3 @ 3.50GHz
CPU cores : 8 @ 3501.221 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM : 31.3 GiB
Swap : 975.0 MiB
Disk : 218.1 GiB
Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel : 5.10.0-19-amd64
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
Read | 92.98 MB/s (23.2k) | 121.80 MB/s (1.9k)
Write | 93.23 MB/s (23.3k) | 122.44 MB/s (1.9k)
Total | 186.21 MB/s (46.5k) | 244.25 MB/s (3.8k)
| |
Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
Read | 135.45 MB/s (264) | 134.75 MB/s (131)
Write | 142.64 MB/s (278) | 143.73 MB/s (140)
Total | 278.09 MB/s (542) | 278.48 MB/s (271)
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 698 Mbits/sec | 125 Mbits/sec | 150 ms
Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | 818 Mbits/sec | 338 Mbits/sec | 154 ms
NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | 844 Mbits/sec | 582 Mbits/sec | 143 ms
Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 575 Mbits/sec | 215 Mbits/sec | 210 ms
Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 883 Mbits/sec | 512 Mbits/sec | 69.7 ms
Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 902 Mbits/sec | 774 Mbits/sec | 39.7 ms
Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 937 Mbits/sec | 938 Mbits/sec | 11.5 ms
Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 4743
Multi Core | 15834
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16700088
Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 1043
Multi Core | 3864
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/19891402
YABS completed in 10 min 40 sec
When it comes to scalability, something like Hetzner Cloud bills you hourly for compute, so it's totally within reason to scale up compute if you anticipate a large workload coming. This doesn't take too long either, and you're billed for the compute you actually use. This isn't what I do, but it's an option.
For locations that I don't want to be physically present in, I currently have several VMs from HostHatch, which work out to $9/month per VM. There are downsides, but they're honestly pretty manageable. Main one is RAM, as these only have 20GB of ram as opposed to 32. In practice this really means next to nothing for me, since I generally use around 18GB of ram consistently. Could be an issue for some though, so I'll concede there. Another issue is the storage. They give you 100GB, but that 100GB is redundant (RAID 10 I believe) and is also NVMe, which absolutely wipes the floor with the SATA drives that a lot of E3 systems will be using. I only use 80GB of storage, so 100GB is fine, but for some this may pose an issue. Final issue is compute. These VMs have 4 CPU cores each, and the E3 has 8 (if we view "cores" like how VM providers do, and count each thread as a core). However, due to the differences in platform, the 4 core VM is able to outbench the E3 across the board.
Overall, not bad when you remember the VM cost half as much, and I didn't even need to buy and ship a server either (consider those "setup fees"). I didn't actually need to buy anything as I have several spare E3 systems, but I'd say that anyone trying this at home doesn't have a bunch of datacenter gear in their basement. Just for even more fun, I have a VM with almost the exact specs of my E3 (except the VM has a 40G port and 4x the traffic limit) that I pay $19/month for. It's curently running one of my production workloads and I didn't care enough about winning an internet argument to shut down prod to prove my point, so the CPU and disk performance is a decent bit lower.
Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime : 20 days, 3 hours, 59 minutes
Processor : AMD EPYC 7443P 24-Core Processor
CPU cores : 8 @ 2844.656 MHz
AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM : 35.2 GiB
Swap : 0.0 KiB
Disk : 182.8 GiB
Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Kernel : 5.10.0-19-amd64
fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
Read | 56.09 MB/s (14.0k) | 136.71 MB/s (2.1k)
Write | 56.19 MB/s (14.0k) | 137.43 MB/s (2.1k)
Total | 112.28 MB/s (28.0k) | 274.15 MB/s (4.2k)
| |
Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
Read | 401.90 MB/s (784) | 439.11 MB/s (428)
Write | 423.25 MB/s (826) | 468.35 MB/s (457)
Total | 825.16 MB/s (1.6k) | 907.46 MB/s (885)
iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
---------------------------------
Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | Ping
----- | ----- | ---- | ---- | ----
Clouvider | London, UK (10G) | 3.56 Gbits/sec | 2.80 Gbits/sec | 11.9 ms
Scaleway | Paris, FR (10G) | 8.44 Gbits/sec | 3.53 Gbits/sec | 7.75 ms
NovoServe | North Holland, NL (40G) | 14.1 Gbits/sec | 16.7 Gbits/sec | 1.14 ms
Uztelecom | Tashkent, UZ (10G) | 2.58 Gbits/sec | 1.63 Gbits/sec | 95.6 ms
Clouvider | NYC, NY, US (10G) | 1.30 Gbits/sec | 1.85 Gbits/sec | 75.1 ms
Clouvider | Dallas, TX, US (10G) | 1.35 Gbits/sec | 1.05 Gbits/sec | 110 ms
Clouvider | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 691 Mbits/sec | 1.07 Gbits/sec | 131 ms
Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 4579
Multi Core | 17551
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/16700091
Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
---------------------------------
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 977
Multi Core | 4146
Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/19891429
YABS completed in 9 min 56 sec
I'd say that overall getting one of these VMs is a pretty reasonable alternative to getting a smaller dedicated server, unless your colo is free, you got the server for free, or both. I haven't noticed a peformance difference between the systems in real world workloads either. Before you say "well VMs are shared! You can't max out the CPU 24/7!" that is totally fair. These systems all have 50% permitted CPU usage allowed 24/7. I've needed to max the CPU for several hours at times and have had zero issues doing so. My workloads generally keep CPU at 40% anyways, if you're consistently running your systems at 80-90% load, a traffic spike will make your app fall over, so I'd say keeping 50% headroom is pretty alright.
i have about 15 or so vps with different providers.
i will cancel almost all of them since i discovered i can do all the random shit i need on a dell optiplex that i got for cheap.
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Well you could get an extra core and unmetered 1gbit from Hostslick. There is definitely vps cheaper but depends on preferences
I have about 30 vps, 1 dedi spread across NA/EU for Tor Relays, Bridges and a bunch of other self hosted apps.
After login to ssh, pass the following command
curl -sL yabs.sh | bash
or
wget -qO- yabs.sh | bash
And paste the output here.
Thank you
Reference: - https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script
This aged well. Now I just have a Pebblehost dedi and one AdvinServers VPS.
Uh Sorry thats why i was not familiar, ITS NOT LINUX. The server is Windows Server2016
oh ok. How is the vps? feels snappy?
how is the internet speed?
VPS only
1x AlphaVPS
1x BuyVM
1x Gullo
1x RackNerd
1x VirMach
p.s. But once I came to LET just for one
For what i use it its fast. The internet pretty well too. Im looking for anything cheaper at least $1 less will be fine. If anyone know let me know. Regards
Thanks for the response. Will try to get an experience of this vps soon
1 dedi OVH advance range roubaix
1 kimsufi 8 tb canada for backup
1 dedi knownhost
1 dedi rebel hosting
1 dedi rackdog
1 vps webtropia
1 vps hudsonvalleyhost (colo crossing)
Only 3 dedicated server on hetzner
NEVER EVER... A $10 /MO VM will have more power than a FULL DEDI E3. You dont know what you are even saying.
NEVER.
I currently pay ~$20/month for each E3 I have (currently 4). That includes a /30 of IPv4, power, 10T of bandwidth, etc. These prices are mostly possible because of power costs in the US compared to the EU. In the EU, increased cost of power alone would bring it up to ~$50ish (at least last time I checked). My E3 systems are pretty simple, just a 1270v3, 32g RAM, and a 240g SSD. I use maybe 80GB of storage on each, so ~100gb storage would be fine. I mostly went with 240G for the extra endurance. I stopped the workloads currently running on one of my E3 systems so I could bench it for you (I know the SSD is slow, it's an older datacenter drive and I had a lot of spares).
When it comes to scalability, something like Hetzner Cloud bills you hourly for compute, so it's totally within reason to scale up compute if you anticipate a large workload coming. This doesn't take too long either, and you're billed for the compute you actually use. This isn't what I do, but it's an option.
For locations that I don't want to be physically present in, I currently have several VMs from HostHatch, which work out to $9/month per VM. There are downsides, but they're honestly pretty manageable. Main one is RAM, as these only have 20GB of ram as opposed to 32. In practice this really means next to nothing for me, since I generally use around 18GB of ram consistently. Could be an issue for some though, so I'll concede there. Another issue is the storage. They give you 100GB, but that 100GB is redundant (RAID 10 I believe) and is also NVMe, which absolutely wipes the floor with the SATA drives that a lot of E3 systems will be using. I only use 80GB of storage, so 100GB is fine, but for some this may pose an issue. Final issue is compute. These VMs have 4 CPU cores each, and the E3 has 8 (if we view "cores" like how VM providers do, and count each thread as a core). However, due to the differences in platform, the 4 core VM is able to outbench the E3 across the board.
Overall, not bad when you remember the VM cost half as much, and I didn't even need to buy and ship a server either (consider those "setup fees"). I didn't actually need to buy anything as I have several spare E3 systems, but I'd say that anyone trying this at home doesn't have a bunch of datacenter gear in their basement. Just for even more fun, I have a VM with almost the exact specs of my E3 (except the VM has a 40G port and 4x the traffic limit) that I pay $19/month for. It's curently running one of my production workloads and I didn't care enough about winning an internet argument to shut down prod to prove my point, so the CPU and disk performance is a decent bit lower.
I'd say that overall getting one of these VMs is a pretty reasonable alternative to getting a smaller dedicated server, unless your colo is free, you got the server for free, or both. I haven't noticed a peformance difference between the systems in real world workloads either. Before you say "well VMs are shared! You can't max out the CPU 24/7!" that is totally fair. These systems all have 50% permitted CPU usage allowed 24/7. I've needed to max the CPU for several hours at times and have had zero issues doing so. My workloads generally keep CPU at 40% anyways, if you're consistently running your systems at 80-90% load, a traffic spike will make your app fall over, so I'd say keeping 50% headroom is pretty alright.
Dedicated servers i own
1230v2 dallas
e5-1620 dallas
1230v2 dallas
l5640 dallas
eypc 7551P houston
i5-6500 houston
Dedicated servers I rent 3 all with 20TB of storage plus
VPS well Serverica, Ionswitch, BuyVM, hosthatch, kivobytes, alexhost, alphavps. i think that is it
2 vps namecheap
1 vps upcloud
1 vps shockhosting
1 vps hostiserver
1 vp hostinger
Who do you have the epyc with?
i have about 15 or so vps with different providers.
i will cancel almost all of them since i discovered i can do all the random shit i need on a dell optiplex that i got for cheap.
1x lifetime dedicated server from @Cloudcone running Proxmox
1x NAT Resource Bundle from @natvps_uk
1x Shared Hosting Lifetime @MikePT
1x Reseller Lifetime @MikePT
1x Servarica
1x GreencloudVPS
2x Hosthatch
1x Pielayer
Ooops, I didn't think I had that many, but despite letting 4 go in the last couple of months, I still have 19 VPS in addition to my 2 dedis!
I might start having to be ruthless with some of the more expensive VPS instances...
@fluffernutter It is colo’d @DataIdeas-Josh.
Let's add one more VPS, Windows VPS from BuyVM.net to my list
I have personal projects running on all of them, but most resources are idle.
Wow!
I am adding two more Windows VPS to my list
Two 8 GB vps at Contabo
Currently 2 but looking for a couple more outside the US for Tailacale exit nodes.